911/saddam connection update: 42% of Americans still believe saddam 'directly involved' in 911 attacks

[Phokus]

"NEW YORK (September 10, 2004) -- The latest Newsweek poll, released this week, revealed that 42% of Americans continue to believe that Saddam Hussein's regime was "directly involved" in the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the United States."

It seems to matter little that every official federal probe, most recently the much-lauded 9/11 Commission, has debunked this myth, in high-profile reports. Yet the percentage of Americans clinging to the Iraq connection has declined only slightly in the past year.

"...another poll that suggested that Americans remain "woefully uniformed or misinformed about certain key issues relating to the war." One survey result: 35% still believe that Iraq had stockpiles of WMD when the U.S. invaded."

Apparently 42% of americans are named 'riprorin'

 

[Gaard]

Shameful.

But I'm sure there are those who are pleased by this news.

 

[viivo]

Originally posted by: Gaard
But I'm sure there are those who are pleased by this news.

We don't need no stinkin' "issues."

Perhaps that's why Bush couldn't remember that adage - he doesn't subscribe to it: "There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, it's probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on ... shame on you. It fool me. We can't get fooled again."

 

[zephyrprime]

That so many still believe this is a failure of the Kerry campaign.

 

[DealMonkey]

While that's an improvement, I see we still need a "no voter left behind" program. Desperately.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: zephyrprime
That so many still believe this is a failure of the Kerry campaign.

Why?

 

[GrGr]

Originally posted by: Gaard

Originally posted by: zephyrprime
That so many still believe this is a failure of the Kerry campaign.

Why?

No it is the failure of the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA to be TRUTHFUL with the citizens of his nation. Vote for him if you want to. :roll:

 

[TuxDave]

Conclusion.... people are idiots. How many people still believe we never landed on the moon?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: zephyrprime
That so many still believe this is a failure of the Kerry campaign.

No, not really. It's the power of Brainwashing.

They need to start passing out Tin Foil Beenies. :thumbsup:


Edit: Watch - They probably really will and you will know where the idea came from

 

[arsbanned]

Unreal....

 

[Martin]

About 42% of people are republicans. What a remarkable coincidence!

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: GrGr

Originally posted by: Gaard

Originally posted by: zephyrprime
That so many still believe this is a failure of the Kerry campaign.

Why?

No it is the failure of the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA to be TRUTHFUL with the citizens of his nation. Vote for him if you want to. :roll:

:beer:

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

I find it ironic that a man who lauds his credentials in education reform (which is pure BS) presides over an administration that systematically misinforms the population. Granted, it certainly helps that one network (FauxNews) is essentially an administration mouthpiece while other media outlets are afraid to challenge the BS brigade of the Bush League.

 

[ECUHITMAN]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zephyrprime
That so many still believe this is a failure of the Kerry campaign.

No, not really. It's the power of Brainwashing.

They need to start passing out Tin Foil Beenies. :thumbsup:


Edit: Watch - They probably really will and you will know where the idea came from

Dmcowen674, do you have problems with what you say people tend to reply else where? I mean I was just reading the post HERE and you said almost the exact same thing about some other idea or word you came up with. Just curious.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: ECUHITMAN

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zephyrprime
That so many still believe this is a failure of the Kerry campaign.

No, not really. It's the power of Brainwashing.

They need to start passing out Tin Foil Beenies. :thumbsup:


Edit: Watch - They probably really will and you will know where the idea came from

Dmcowen674, do you have problems with what you say people tend to reply else where? I mean I was just reading the post HERE and you said almost the exact same thing about some other idea or word you came up with. Just curious.

No, no problem with it. You may have missed the obvious articles and things that came out after posts in here and they were exactly as I had posted in here. It happens more frequently with folks that have blogs but interesting to see it happen from here. Just shows how major Journalists frequent these Forums.

 

[Todd33]

42% of Americans continue to believe that Saddam Hussein's regime was "directly involved" in the 9/11 terrorist attacks

I call them Bush's base.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Todd33

42% of Americans continue to believe that Saddam Hussein's regime was "directly involved" in the 9/11 terrorist attacks

I call them Bush's base.

According to Bush, the "elite" are his base. The 42% of those Americans are his zombie-like minions.

From "The Mummy"

I-MOH-TEP! I-MOH-TEP! I-MOH-TEP!

 

[Cerb]

What do you expect? That's probably the conservatives, or those that claim they are. Bush did the conservative compaigning last time. If it works this time, we're plain screwed (no I do not care for Kerry either, BTW).

 

[DeeKnow]

right... put these ppl in touch with all the Germans that believe the holocaust never actually happened

 

[ReiAyanami]

Bush would have you beleive that Saddam piloted two of the planes himself.

 

[StageLeft]

That is indeed shameful, but I've said it before that people wanted blood so much for 9/11 that they didn't care if it was the right blood. When you've got an uninformed moron who's worked up into such a rabid fury over 9/11, all you have to do is say the word and point them in the direction and they'll run off like an attack dog. There are those who supported the iraq effort for other reasons, but this should never have been one of them.

BTW, people need to stop blaming bush for this. He never said that i have seen that Iraq was involved in this, so you're blindly blaming him with as much discretion as somebody who thinks that Iraq was involved. I will agree that Bush KNEW that a lot of support for the Iraq war was by lemmings who though that there was a link between iraq and 9/11, and I can't recall bush ever having even attempted to point out that that wasn't so, but he still never said that iraq was directly involved. He didn't lie, but he did willingly misdirect, since so much of the support for iraq was based on nonsense, and he knew it.

 

[GrGr]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
That is indeed shameful, but I've said it before that people wanted blood so much for 9/11 that they didn't care if it was the right blood. When you've got an uninformed moron who's worked up into such a rabid fury over 9/11, all you have to do is say the word and point them in the direction and they'll run off like an attack dog. There are those who supported the iraq effort for other reasons, but this should never have been one of them.

BTW, people need to stop blaming bush for this. He never said that i have seen that Iraq was involved in this, so you're blindly blaming him with as much discretion as somebody who thinks that Iraq was involved. I will agree that Bush KNEW that a lot of support for the Iraq war was by lemmings who though that there was a link between iraq and 9/11, and I can't recall bush ever having even attempted to point out that that wasn't so, but he still never said that iraq was directly involved. He didn't lie, but he did willingly misdirect, since so much of the support for iraq was based on nonsense, and he knew it.

Bush: "We have removed an ally of al Qa'ida [Saddam Hussein]"
Bush a year later: "We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11".

To "willingly misdirect" = to lie [a statement that deviates from or perverts the truth]

Nobody sensible can deny that Bush willingly perverted the truth.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: GrGr
Bush: "We have removed an ally of al Qa'ida [Saddam Hussein]"
Bush a year later: "We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11".

To "willingly misdirect" = to lie [a statement that deviates from or perverts the truth]

Nobody sensible can deny that Bush willingly perverted the truth.

Well Saddamn could have been a loose ally of al queda, but it still wouldn't mean that saddamn was linked in any meaningful way to 9/11, just as Canada is an ally of the US and was not involved in this recent iraq effort.

I think that he did at least misdirect though, simply because he ommited important and relevant information. That's not explicitely lying, but is no more defensible than a detective in a murder case failing to ask a very specific question and the interviewee using this as an excuse not to volunteer something clearly relevant; sort of like "Hey you never told me that!", "Well you never asked!". Bush knew full well that a lot of his Iraq support was from the idiotic rabble that used 9/11 as a motivator for support of it.

 

[GrGr]

Bush delibetarely "ommited important and relevant information" from his argument i.e. Bush deliberately presented a perverted version of the truth. Bush lied.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
That is indeed shameful, but I've said it before that people wanted blood so much for 9/11 that they didn't care if it was the right blood. When you've got an uninformed moron who's worked up into such a rabid fury over 9/11, all you have to do is say the word and point them in the direction and they'll run off like an attack dog. There are those who supported the iraq effort for other reasons, but this should never have been one of them.

BTW, people need to stop blaming bush for this. He never said that i have seen that Iraq was involved in this, so you're blindly blaming him with as much discretion as somebody who thinks that Iraq was involved. I will agree that Bush KNEW that a lot of support for the Iraq war was by lemmings who though that there was a link between iraq and 9/11, and I can't recall bush ever having even attempted to point out that that wasn't so, but he still never said that iraq was directly involved. He didn't lie, but he did willingly misdirect, since so much of the support for iraq was based on nonsense, and he knew it.

You one of those people who can't connect the dots?