Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
If he says the words, "They hate freedom" one more time, I swear I'll blast some new holes in the TV.
Good - then you can help the economy out by going out and buying a new AMERICAN made TV
CkG
Originally posted by: BOBDN
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
If he says the words, "They hate freedom" one more time, I swear I'll blast some new holes in the TV.
Good - then you can help the economy out by going out and buying a new AMERICAN made TV
CkG
One problem, there are NO TV's made in the USA any more.
Originally posted by: NFS4
I think that President Bush needs to start scheduling his $100,000 a pop speeches around the country once Jan. 20th, 2005 comes around
Originally posted by: BOBDN
My take on Bush's speech?
I just wasted 15 minutes watching Bush tell America what we already knew:
Iraq is going to cost us hundreds of billions of dollars ($70bn + $4bn/mo + another $87bn he's asking Congress for now), we are going to have 130,000 + troops there for the forseeable future and we need the UN and our allies who told us not to invade Iraq in the first place to bail us out. NO evidence of terrorist ties in pre-invasion Iraq, just another specious statement placing Iraq and terror in the same sentence again. But an admission that the US invasion has made Iraq a nexus of terror. No mention of the WMD no one has found. This was basically just a plea for help from a Bush who now realizes how badly he and his administration have screwed this up. And NO mention of Osama bin Laden, dead or alive.
At least he didn't repeat "Bring it on."
What was the point of this excercise? Bush's advisors hoping he'll get a bump in the polls from appearing on TV? An attempt to buy more time?
Bush had nothing new to say. He could have told the millions of Americans who are out of work how spending hundreds of billions in Iraq will help them. Or how using all our resources in Iraq would make us more secure at home. Or why, out of all the excuses his administration's used to invade Iraq not one has been proven.
Instead we got a replay of Bush administration propaganda for which his administration is unable to provide ANY proof.
Just more Bush sloganeering.
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: NFS4
I think that President Bush needs to start scheduling his $100,000 a pop speeches around the country once Jan. 20th, 2005 comes around
Can a President charge money for a speech while a President? Well, there are the fundraiser dinner speeches but those will be for the RNC.
I thought the speech was alright. It is just a reaffirmation of what has been stated in the Admin's numerous press statements and talkshow appearances. I thought it was interesting that Biden thought it was definitely a good speech.
CkG
Lol, of course he thought it was a good speech. It confirmed that BushCo was wrong and that he had been right from the beginning on several issues. Why wouldn't he like it?I thought it was interesting that Biden thought it was definitely a good speech.
Originally posted by: Tabb
Originally posted by: BOBDN
My take on Bush's speech?
I just wasted 15 minutes watching Bush tell America what we already knew:
Iraq is going to cost us hundreds of billions of dollars ($70bn + $4bn/mo + another $87bn he's asking Congress for now), we are going to have 130,000 + troops there for the forseeable future and we need the UN and our allies who told us not to invade Iraq in the first place to bail us out. NO evidence of terrorist ties in pre-invasion Iraq, just another specious statement placing Iraq and terror in the same sentence again. But an admission that the US invasion has made Iraq a nexus of terror. No mention of the WMD no one has found. This was basically just a plea for help from a Bush who now realizes how badly he and his administration have screwed this up. And NO mention of Osama bin Laden, dead or alive.
At least he didn't repeat "Bring it on."
What was the point of this excercise? Bush's advisors hoping he'll get a bump in the polls from appearing on TV? An attempt to buy more time?
Bush had nothing new to say. He could have told the millions of Americans who are out of work how spending hundreds of billions in Iraq will help them. Or how using all our resources in Iraq would make us more secure at home. Or why, out of all the excuses his administration's used to invade Iraq not one has been proven.
Instead we got a replay of Bush administration propaganda for which his administration is unable to provide ANY proof.
Just more Bush sloganeering.
Things that aren't "new" to you. We abosultely NEED the UN BOBDN? We haven't been pushed out or left, it believe we could win without the support of anymore troops it would just make it more difficult. Terrorism Ties? What about Anr-Islam(sp?) and the money donated to families of Palensteinian suicide bombers? The only thing that is stupid is that he wouldn't remotely talk about WMDs.
Originally posted by: Insane3D
So he's looking for $87 billion more now? Looks like the expected $60 billion figure was a bit low...
Pffft...what's a few billion when you are making peace!
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: NFS4
I think that President Bush needs to start scheduling his $100,000 a pop speeches around the country once Jan. 20th, 2005 comes around
Can a President charge money for a speech while a President? Well, there are the fundraiser dinner speeches but those will be for the RNC.
I thought the speech was alright. It is just a reaffirmation of what has been stated in the Admin's numerous press statements and talkshow appearances. I thought it was interesting that Biden thought it was definitely a good speech.
CkG
OK, you're a bit slow on the uptake on that one
Originally posted by: BOBDN
Just a thought for everyone.
On May 1st Bush landed on the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln and made a speech in front of a giant banner which read,
"MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!"
Tonight, four months later, he made a speech that made it perfectly clear the mission has only just begun.
This is a further example of the dishonesty of the Bush administration and use of propaganda to further their misguided agenda.
We were led to pre-emptively invade Iraq based on false claims, told of a victory which didn't exist and now are left with no option but to finish a job which, based on the Bush administration's statements in the months leading up to the invasion, we should never have started.
American lives and hundreds of billions of American dollars are the price we are now forced to pay for the Bush administration's lies. We are left with no other option. No way out. Because all the while we were being fed a list of false reasons the Bush administration didn't even bother to plan for the aftermath of their invasion.
We are screwed.
And this may only be the beginning. Just like the bombs at the UN HQ in Baghdad and the Shia shrine in Najaf the middle east could easily explode in our faces because of the Bush administration's irresponsible, dishonest rush to war in Iraq.
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: BOBDN
Just a thought for everyone.
On May 1st Bush landed on the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln and made a speech in front of a giant banner which read,
"MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!"
Tonight, four months later, he made a speech that made it perfectly clear the mission has only just begun.
This is a further example of the dishonesty of the Bush administration and use of propaganda to further their misguided agenda.
We were led to pre-emptively invade Iraq based on false claims, told of a victory which didn't exist and now are left with no option but to finish a job which, based on the Bush administration's statements in the months leading up to the invasion, we should never have started.
American lives and hundreds of billions of American dollars are the price we are now forced to pay for the Bush administration's lies. We are left with no other option. No way out. Because all the while we were being fed a list of false reasons the Bush administration didn't even bother to plan for the aftermath of their invasion.
We are screwed.
And this may only be the beginning. Just like the bombs at the UN HQ in Baghdad and the Shia shrine in Najaf the middle east could easily explode in our faces because of the Bush administration's irresponsible, dishonest rush to war in Iraq.
Are you a member of A.N.S.W.E.R.? Because you sure do spout alot of their rhetoric.
CkG