9-18 EFF Sues NSA, President Bush, and Vice President Cheney to Stop Illegal Surveillance

dmcowen674

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Keyword is "illegal"

This will undoubtedly go to the Supreme Court where they will interpet the Consitition whether wiretapping ordinary Americans on a 24/7 basis is legal or not.

I have watched many people debate this here in P&N.

Should I put up a poll?

Are you for or against domestic wiretapping?

If you are for it are you Republican or Democrat?


9-18-2008 http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2008/09/17-0

EFF Sues NSA, President Bush, and Vice President Cheney to Stop Illegal Surveillance

New Legal Challenge to Unconstitutional Domestic Spying
The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) filed a lawsuit against the National Security Agency (NSA) and other government agencies today on behalf of AT&T customers to stop the illegal, unconstitutional, and ongoing dragnet surveillance of their communications and communications records. The five individual plaintiffs are also suing President George W. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Cheney's chief of staff David Addington, former Attorney General and White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales and other individuals who ordered or participated in the warrantless domestic surveillance.

The lawsuit, Jewel v. NSA, is aimed at ending the NSA's dragnet surveillance of millions of ordinary Americans and holding accountable the government officials who illegally authorized it. Evidence in the case includes undisputed documents provided by former AT&T telecommunications technician Mark Klein showing AT&T has routed copies of Internet traffic to a secret room in San Francisco controlled by the NSA.

That same evidence is central to Hepting v. AT&T, a class-action lawsuit filed by EFF in 2006 to stop the telecom giant's participation in the illegal surveillance program. Earlier this year, Congress passed a law attempting to derail that case by unconstitutionally granting immunity to AT&T and other companies that took part in the dragnet. Hepting v. AT&T is now stalled in federal court while EFF argues with the government over whether the immunity is constitutional and applies in that case -- litigation that is likely to continue well into 2009.

In addition to suing the government agencies involved in the domestic dragnet, the lawsuit also targets the individuals responsible for creating, authorizing, and implementing the illegal program, including President Bush and Vice President Cheney.

"Demanding personal accountability from President Bush, Vice President Cheney and others responsible for the NSA's dragnet surveillance of ordinary Americans' communications is the best way to guarantee that such blatantly illegal spying will not be authorized in the future," said EFF Legal Director Cindy Cohn. "Our lawsuit today should sound a clear warning to future occupants of the White House: if you break the law and violate Americans' privacy, there will be consequences."
 

RightIsWrong

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I hope that it will get to a public trial without gag orders so that the majority of citizens living in this country can see just how badly our constitutional rights are being eroded.
 

Nitemare

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Just saw this and was going to post it. It's about time we started upholding the Constitution.
 

glugglug

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So far the people for domestic wiretapping are 150% republican (3/2) and 100% democrats (2/2).

 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: glugglug
So far the people for domestic wiretapping are 150% republican (3/2) and 100% democrats (2/2).
Apparently this poll is too complicated. Don?t worry though, we?ll make the correct choice for President. ;)
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Didn't the telcom immunity bill pass a while back?
Yes, hence the EFF having to file this lawsuit.

They will need money to defend the Constitution.

Any real Americans that can I would suggest please donate to the EFF.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: MovingTarget

Didn't the telcom immunity bill pass a while back?
The telcom immunity act only gave telcos civil immunity. They are still subject to criminal prosecution, and even that may be unconstitutional.

I don't recall that it gave the admin any civil or criminal immunity.
 

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