9/11 killed a classic Organ, now replaced with 10 PCs, 74 speakers and 15,000 Watts of amplification @ Trinity Episcopal

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Marshall & Ogletree determined that 10 PCs would be necessary to drive all the channels. The 74 speakers would be placed inside the existing organ chambers, now hollowed out by removal of the destroyed Skinner pipes. The long cable that runs from the tone-generating PCs to the amplifier/speaker banks would necessitate balanced audio lines, which in turn would need studio-quality sound card technology.

Definitive Technology (Owings Mills, Md.) was chosen for the speakers that would give voice to the organ manuals. Massive subwoofers would be used in tandem with the Definitives ? the signal split by low-pass and high-pass filters-for the deep notes played from the organ pedals. Each speaker would be driven by its own Carver power amplifier ? a total of 15,000 watts.
 

tnitsuj

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What a waste of technology for a damn church.

Won't the weak minded types who look for some sort of spiritual comfort or whatever they get in a church be dissapointed that it isn't a real organ.
 

EvilYoda

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wow, they chose to go with DefTech? Interesting...

As for the system...COOOOOL. Not that I'd be going into a church anytime soon, but still cool :)
 

thraxes

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Bleeeh... Why not build a nice handcrafted organ in the old style like the one that was wrecked.

It was probably due to a lack of $$$ but still.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: thraxes
Bleeeh... Why not build a nice handcrafted organ in the old style like the one that was wrecked.

It was probably due to a lack of $$$ but still.

what they are talking about doing isnt gonna be cheap. i have no idea how much it costs to build an organ tho
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: thraxes
Bleeeh... Why not build a nice handcrafted organ in the old style like the one that was wrecked.

It was probably due to a lack of $$$ but still.

yes, because 15,000 watts worth of amplifiers, 74 premium quality speakers, filters, 10 PC's and subwoofers are something you can just throw on layaway at walmart.
 

datalink7

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Originally posted by: tnitsuj
What a waste of technology for a damn church.

Won't the weak minded types who look for some sort of spiritual comfort or whatever they get in a church be dissapointed that it isn't a real organ.

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Bootprint

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From here, it sounds like it's only a temp replacement. And in 5+ years they'll have a real pipe organ again.
 

radioouman

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I like full organs.... The air pumps, and the pipes that are 30+ feet long and a foot in diameter, all the way to pipes that are only 2 inches long and would barely hold a toothpick. I think that they are fascinating.

On the other hand, I've been a radio station engineer, and I find high end sound cards and RF amplifiers interesting too.

EDIT: I guess that's why I have three computers yet I also have a piano with full ivory keys that was made in 1910.
 

Amorphus

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Originally posted by: tnitsuj
What a waste of technology for a damn church.

Won't the weak minded types who look for some sort of spiritual comfort or whatever they get in a church be dissapointed that it isn't a real organ.


Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
what a waste of speakers


stupid personified.
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radioouman

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Originally posted by: tnitsuj
What a waste of technology for a damn church.

Won't the weak minded types who look for some sort of spiritual comfort or whatever they get in a church be dissapointed that it isn't a real organ.

Did you know that for the past several hundred years, the most technologically advanced organs in the world were in churchs? We wouldn't have the organs that we do today if people decided that churches weren't worth "wasting technology" on.
 

amnesiac

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Originally posted by: tnitsuj
What a waste of technology for a damn church.

Won't the weak minded types who look for some sort of spiritual comfort or whatever they get in a church be dissapointed that it isn't a real organ.

Get bent, troll.
 

LordMorpheus

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There is no instrument cooler than a gigantic pipe organ, and there can be no digital replacement for one, either.
 

amcdonald

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Originally posted by: Amorphus
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
What a waste of technology for a damn church.

Won't the weak minded types who look for some sort of spiritual comfort or whatever they get in a church be dissapointed that it isn't a real organ.


Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
what a waste of speakers


stupid personified.
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Seriously... Do you really think that only people that go to church appreciate the organ? My dad is a master organ player, and its an incredibly beautiful & powerful instrument, no matter what religion you belong to. I used to watch entire performances where there were no religious connotations... other than that the pieces being performed were written by religious people (e.g. bach).
Its also incredibly hard to play an organ... its like playing drums with melody and much greater precision/dexterity.
 

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Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
There is no instrument cooler than a gigantic pipe organ, and there can be no digital replacement for one, either.

Precisely.

A digital "organ" is like seeing a master painting on a HDTV. No matter how good the set, it is NOT the same.
 

tweakmm

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I'm not a big fan of church, but the organ is a damn cool instrument. When I'm in NY again I'll have to see if I can hear the electronic behemoth replacement in person.
 
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Originally posted by: tnitsuj
What a waste of technology for a damn church. Won't the weak minded types who look for some sort of spiritual comfort or whatever they get in a church be dissapointed that it isn't a real organ.

Troll...
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