9/11 fmilies support Bush ads.

[maluckey]

As the title says. Many families affected by 9/11, have issued public statements that they support the Bush 9/11 ads, and that they are not represented by those angered over the ads. I got this from Little Rock local news. I'm sure it was also coverd on National side of the news as well. (Or was it?)

Goes to show there are always two sides of the story. The knee jerk crowd grab the first information that suits their agenda and run with it to sensationalize. They often find that others....(shockingly enough!) do not all agree with them.

 

[leeboy]

If even 1 family that lost a dad, mom, son, daughter, etc... is offended by the ads, then he should have the decency to change the imagry, not the message. Your point is lost dude. What a weak argument. Since so many have expressed their desire for it to be taken off, does it really matter what the 22 families that came out so far that support it think? No. Point is, his advisors should have had the common sense not to touch that subject in his re-election ads.

What you are basically saying is that as long as some people don't mind what others preceive is a bad thing, it makes it OK?

Who cares if there are two sides to this story? The important thing is one side finds it offensive, remove them. Simple.

Remember, we aren't talking about a Detergent ad here. We are talking about human lives. By NOT saying anything, it would have been like saying it was OK. Many families saw them, resented them, and spoke out. Remember again, we aren't talking about whether some people think it was OK for Janet's tit to pop out. Personally I find it OK, but as long as some in this country still find that kind of crap offensive, do I have the right to expect it on TV?

 

[Gaard]

Does anyone here believe that the feelings of anyone or any family has been taken into consideration? I think the bottom line here, and the one that the Bush campaign people adhere to, is will he , by running these ads, get more votes than he loses. Feelings be damned. Is that a bad thing? Probably not if you're running for president.

 

[leeboy]

Good point Guard, they aren't stooopid. They weighed the pros and cons and decide that the ends would justify the means. That is what is so truly sad about this. They knew they would offend many and decided that it was worth the risk.

 

[MrYogi]

Originally posted by: leeboy
If even 1 family that lost a dad, mom, son, daughter, etc... is offended by the ads, then he should have the decency to change the imagry, not the message.

good point.

he is cashing on 9/11 which is so wrong.:disgust:

 

[maluckey]

Weak!!!

Let's pull every single ad that offends someone. I, and many others are truly offended by all of Kerrys ads. I am offended because I lost family members in Vietnam. Kerry is capitalizing on his stint in Vietnam. Kerry then protested the war while his fellow soldiers (and my relatives) were dying so that he could throw someone elses medals over the fence.

Pull his ads, they offend me and my family.

 

[leeboy]

And to qualify, if the shoe were on the other foot and Bill Clinton were running these kinds of ads, I can say with all honesty I would feel the same way. You don't use these kinds of images to get re-elected. I would be disappointed in my commander in cheif just the same, dem or rep.

 

[leeboy]

Originally posted by: maluckey
Weak!!!

Let's pull every single ad that offends someone. I, and many others are truly offended by all of Kerrys ads. I am offended because I lost family members in Vietnam. Kerry is capitalizing on his stint in Vietnam. Kerry then protested the war while his fellow soldiers (and my relatives) were dying so that he could throw someone elses medals over the fence.

Pull his ads, they offend me and my family.

You are just using Kerry's ads (which by the way I have never seen 1 run yet) to justify your partisan opinion. Nice try though.

It stinks not living in a key battleground state, we never see ANY ads here is Michigan, for Kerry OR Bush. You need to realize something, he served over there and has every right to use those images, you are compaing apples to oragnes dude. Peronally, I don't care for ads that show him as a soldier, more interested in what is going on now. He risked his life for that footage I imagine and if he want to use it, who are you to tell him he can't? Not like Bush risked anything by yelling into a megaphone at ground zero.

And don't ya think it is a LITTLE different to run ads about your service record than what Bush is doing right now? Whether you agree with the war in Vietnam or not, uh, wake up call for you, presidents have been using their war record for YEARS to get elected or re-elected. Think Eisenhower didn't ride that pony? Just because I lost family members in World War II Ike can't show ads blah blah blah, get over it.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

"We will Never Forget..."

Well, some of us anyway...

CkG

 

[DZip]

Lets solve this problem once and for all. Before anyone can place an ad, the public must vote it on. A majority approval would be required before the ad can be run without objection. After the ad has been voted on, the party that disapproves can take the vote to the Supreme Court for appeal. The Supreme Court must act within 2 years, as we would not want to have any foot-dragging by a partisan court.

"If we ignore or deny it, it will go away" anonymous.

 

[Wag]

Hmm. I wonder why the Bush campaign didn't use a picture of a soldier coming back in a coffin coming back from Iraq instead of 9/11?

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: Wag
Hmm. I wonder why the Bush campaign didn't use a picture of a soldier coming back in a coffin coming back from Iraq instead of 9/11?

Because the people running the campaign aren't complete idiots like you.

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: leeboy

Originally posted by: maluckey
Weak!!!

Let's pull every single ad that offends someone. I, and many others are truly offended by all of Kerrys ads. I am offended because I lost family members in Vietnam. Kerry is capitalizing on his stint in Vietnam. Kerry then protested the war while his fellow soldiers (and my relatives) were dying so that he could throw someone elses medals over the fence.

Pull his ads, they offend me and my family.

You are just using Kerry's ads (which by the way I have never seen 1 run yet) to justify your partisan opinion. Nice try though.

It stinks not living in a key battleground state, we never see ANY ads here is Michigan, for Kerry OR Bush. You need to realize something, he served over there and has every right to use those images, you are compaing apples to oragnes dude. Peronally, I don't care for ads that show him as a soldier, more interested in what is going on now. He risked his life for that footage I imagine and if he want to use it, who are you to tell him he can't? Not like Bush risked anything by yelling into a megaphone at ground zero.

And don't ya think it is a LITTLE different to run ads about your service record than what Bush is doing right now? Whether you agree with the war in Vietnam or not, uh, wake up call for you, presidents have been using their war record for YEARS to get elected or re-elected. Think Eisenhower didn't ride that pony? Just because I lost family members in World War II Ike can't show ads blah blah blah, get over it.

You are just using Pres. Bush's ads (which by the way I have never seen 1 run yet) to justify your partisan opinion. Nice try though.

 

[Wag]

This board is completely out of control and needs to be moderated.

Is a personal attack the best you can do?

My question comes down to this- What's the difference between using a soldier coming back in a coffin or body bag, as opposed to a victim of 9/11? Why is one off limits and the other is not?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: maluckey
Weak!!!

Let's pull every single ad that offends someone. I, and many others are truly offended by all of Kerrys ads. I am offended because I lost family members in Vietnam. Kerry is capitalizing on his stint in Vietnam. Kerry then protested the war while his fellow soldiers (and my relatives) were dying so that he could throw someone elses medals over the fence.

Pull his ads, they offend me and my family.

Actually Kerry and others protesting kept more from being killed in Nam. He should be commended for it!

 

[maluckey]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Actually Kerry and others protesting kept more from being killed in Nam. He should be commended for it!

Most veterans would say that not supporting your fellow soldiers while they are in combat, is being a traitor. Kerry skipped out after a few papercuts and questionable actions, then verbally attacked those fighting. Now he wasnts their support? He won't likely get the military votes, which could possibly lose him the election. I's not a huge block, but soldiers tend to have a high percentage voting compared to the national average. They also tend to be Republican.

 

[chess9]

I don't think the ads should be pulled because ANY family or individual is offended. Rather, the ad should be pulled because they are a crass attempt by the bone heads in charge at the RNC to drape Bush in the sympathy all the victims families are receiving. He wants to bask in the reflected glow of their loved one's sacrifices. Shabby, shabby, shabby.

Bush needs to ask for Gillespie's resignation because that guy is going to destroy what little crediblity the Crawford Cretin has with the American people.

-Robert

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: maluckey
Weak!!!

Let's pull every single ad that offends someone. I, and many others are truly offended by all of Kerrys ads. I am offended because I lost family members in Vietnam. Kerry is capitalizing on his stint in Vietnam. Kerry then protested the war while his fellow soldiers (and my relatives) were dying so that he could throw someone elses medals over the fence.

Pull his ads, they offend me and my family.

Actually Kerry and others protesting kept more from being killed in Nam. He should be commended for it!

Doubtful Red, I don't think that any study has shown that the weaking resolve of the American people in fighting the Viet Nam saved one life. I did see a story where the Viet Nam leadership did not feel the need to negoiate a settlement earlier because of that support in the US thus keeping the war going.

 

[jahawkin]

Just wait until Bush gives his nomination acceptance speech at ground zero (something the republicans are seriously considering).

and to echo what Wag pointed out:
-Flag draped caskets returing from Iraq - off limits to the media. These ceremonies are not open to the media due to concern for the families.
-Flag draped casket from 9/11 attacks - campaign commercial material.
What's the difference??

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: jahawkin
Just wait until Bush gives his nomination acceptance speech at ground zero (something the republicans are seriously considering).

and to echo what Wag pointed out:
-Flag draped caskets returing from Iraq - off limits to the media. These ceremonies are not open to the media due to concern for the families.
-Flag draped casket from 9/11 attacks - campaign commercial material.
What's the difference??

They have never shown the bodies of soldiers returning. Crying over this policy is just sad.

I think we all need to remember that 9/11 was the democrats fault anyways.

 

[jahawkin]

Originally posted by: nutxo


They have never shown the bodies of soldiers returning. Crying over this policy is just sad.

I think we all need to remember that 9/11 was the democrats fault anyways.

Oh really?? Link

 

[Pepsei]

Originally posted by: jahawkin

Originally posted by: nutxo


They have never shown the bodies of soldiers returning. Crying over this policy is just sad.

I think we all need to remember that 9/11 was the democrats fault anyways.

Oh really?? Link

wow.

 

[sMiLeYz]

Originally posted by: jahawkin

Originally posted by: nutxo


They have never shown the bodies of soldiers returning. Crying over this policy is just sad.

I think we all need to remember that 9/11 was the democrats fault anyways.

Oh really?? Link

You know what they say, jahawkins... ignorance is bliss.

 

[Wag]

I would love to see Kerry ask Pres Bush directly during the debates why the funerals of soldiers are not allowed to be covered in the media if their families desire it?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Wag
I would love to see Kerry ask Pres Bush directly during the debates why the funerals of soldiers are not allowed to be covered in the media if their families desire it?

The policies in effect at Dover go back to 1991 and have been consistent since then through three administrations now" - Gen. Myers on the "no camera" rule.

Bleat on...

CkG