9/11-----can somebody explain this one to me??????

Mitzi

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I don't see what the problem is...

An aircraft full of fuel will burn up pretty quick.

The reason why the trucks are spreading gravel over the lawn is to ensure that there was spilt fuel which could set alight.
 

MikeO

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<< where did the wings go? >>



I heard that the latest assumption was that an huge green seamonster with big teeth ate them, this is yet to be confirmed, but until that you can think that as the truth.
 

sharkeeper

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C'mon people! This has been posted and discussed a hundred (thousand) times!

The pentagon is built different than your local Sam's club! Don't you think that has something to do with it?

People that write these articles need to make better with their spare time especially in times like this! :|

Cheers!
 

MajesticMoose

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<< The reason why the trucks are spreading gravel over the lawn is to ensure that there was spilt fuel which could set alight. >>


no they didn't. The gravel was to let them move in big machines to clean up the rubble without turning the grass into a big muddy mess. This is just a guess but i would bet that all of the fuel burned up in the fire after the crash.
 

Mitzi

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no they didn't. The gravel was to let them move in big machines to clean up the rubble without turning the grass into a big muddy mess. This is just a guess but i would bet that all of the fuel burned up in the fire after the crash.

I'll take your word if that then, my reasoning was because after a serious car accident one of the first things the police/fire service do is cover the crash area in sand to soak up any leaked petrol.
 

tcsenter

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<< where did the wings go????? >>

What do you mean 'where did the wings go'? Where did the entire plane go for that matter? I've looked at the photos and I see nothing that resembles even a part of an airliner. The plane was known to circle around in order to hit that side of the Pentagon and came in at high speed + 45' angle + explosive jet feul + concrete structure = nothing left but tiny bits.

Where do these conspiracy theorists think the "real" American Airlines Flight 77 along with all of its passengers went, sucked up by the Bermuda Triangle?
 

Lucky

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<< no they didn't. The gravel was to let them move in big machines to clean up the rubble without turning the grass into a big muddy mess. This is just a guess but i would bet that all of the fuel burned up in the fire after the crash.

I'll take your word if that then, my reasoning was because after a serious car accident one of the first things the police/fire service do is cover the crash area in sand to soak up any leaked petrol.
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He is correct about the reason for the gravel, but in my experiences police/fire/ems dont use sand for this, they have specialized machines and materials. While Im not a firefighter or a cop, I've gone on plenty of ride-alongs (even with a haz-mat team) and I've never seem them simply pour sand over spilt fuel. I've seen them use absorbant bags similar to sandbags but even then I dont think it was sand.


I have a picture of a haz-mat team cleaning up a diesel spill but my fileserver died this morning. I'll try and get it up and running and then post a picture of what they were using.
 

Amused

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1. Where are the wings? In tiny peices. To the left and right of the main hole, you CAN see damage to the building. The freakin idiot SHOWS the damage in the picture, and denies it's there! The difference between this building, and the WTC is that the Pentagon is built like a brick sh!t house. It's TONS of concrete and steel poured into columns and blocks. The plane and wings hit the building at some 400+ MPH and simply disentigrated. The building is MUCH denser (a lot like the author of this page) than the WTC. Light aluminum hitting densly poured concrete. You physics gurus do the freakin math here. The bulk of the plane DID penetrate the lower floors of the building, but only the first ring.

Remember folks. If you fly a plane into a brick wall that is three feet thick, there well be VERY little left of the plane larger than a couple cubic inches. There are tests with fighter jets done like this on video for f'cks sake. This portion of the Pentigon had just been refurbished. Part of that was adding additional thickness to the walls to shield from attacks.

2. Why gravel? Have you ever BEEN to a large construction site with large tracked vehicles? They turn a lawn into a woman's mud westling rink with five foot deep ruts in no time.

This guy is an idiot.
 

tcsenter

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<< 2. Why gravel? Have you ever BEEN to a large construction site with large tracked vehicles? They turn a lawn into a woman's mud westling rink with five foot deep ruts in no time. >>

In fact, you can see that this photo was taken many days after the attack, all the heavy equipment is being put in place to do the demolition and clean-up work. Notice the crane in the back?

Its pretty obvious they're putting in a make-shift road for the heavy equipment that will be making dozens of trips in and out of there every day.

About the planes that hit the WTC. If you look closely at the WTC, there is no clear 'outline' resembling the shape or silhouette of an aircraft. There is just a big jagged elliptical hole. Where did the wings go?

 

MadRat

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This is just another numbskull who doesn't realize the way aluminum burns completely away at the right temperature...
 

Doggiedog

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This is just another numbskull who doesn't realize the way aluminum burns completely away at the right temperature...

Exactly. If you are ever around a campfire, toss in an aluminum soda can. You'll see it disentegrates into white powder in no time.
 

911paramedic

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...and if I am not mistaking (wouldn't be the first time I was wrong) they did find the flight data recorder in that crash.
 

burnedout

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...and if I am not mistaking (wouldn't be the first time I was wrong) they did find the flight data recorder in that crash.

I believe they indeed found the flight data recorder and were able to deduce that the plane was travelling at 329 kts. on impact.