8800GTS or 9800GTX?

[Goi]

Hi,

I'll be building a new system very soon and I'm torn between these 2 cards. I know they're both based on the same exact G92 chip except the 9800GTX has higher stock speeds. I'm wondering if the max overclock of the 8800GTS would be the same as that of the 9800GTX?

Where I am, most of the 8800GTS cards are actually about the same price as, or more expensive than the 9800GTX, except for the Leadtek PX8800GTX which is about 65USD cheaper. I'm wondering if it's worth getting the 9800GTX over it?

TIA.

 

[keeleysam]

I'd definitely go for the 9800GTX, especially since Leadtek support has always been less than stellar for me.

 

[VulcanX]

Ok my personal advice, you hook up a Gainward Bliss 1024Mb 8800GTS, they are the best shit around, and the price/performance is very nice in comparison, and Leadtek Winfast are by default overclocked, i would rather keep temps down and Gainward Bliss get higher scores overall no matter what

 

[error8]

If the 9800 GTX is at the same price of the GTS, though I doubt it is, go for it. 9800 GTX has a bit faster ram then the GTS, higher frequency for the shader and core, so all of this translates in a "bit" faster card. But it worths the money only if it is "a bit" more expensive then GTS.
Also, I don't think you can match the GTX clocks on the GTS, since you'll need higher voltage for the gpu and quite better ram to touch 2200 mhz.

Oh and if you can wait another 3 weeks, you'll be able to buy one of the next generation cards, that should be better then those two.

 

[VulcanX]

What next gen card does Error8 speak of? haha that is interesting, but the 8800GTS is just behind the 9800GTX even, take a look at Toms hardware, trust me on that, its not bad, but if you willing to fork out the lil extra then get the GTX as mentioned above, he is correct but if you cant get the extra cash then settle with the GTS which isnt bad in any terms

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: VulcanX
What next gen card does Error8 speak of? haha that is interesting, but the 8800GTS is just behind the 9800GTX even, take a look at Toms hardware, trust me on that, its not bad, but if you willing to fork out the lil extra then get the GTX as mentioned above, he is correct but if you cant get the extra cash then settle with the GTS which isnt bad in any terms

its probably more like a month.

but he's talking abou tthe gt200 or the radeon rv770s


the only one of those cards that will be remotely close to the prices of 8800GTS or 9800 GTX is the radeon 4850 though (supposed to be $250)

 

[Goi]

Probably gonna take a bit longer to reach our shores since I'm in Singapore. I've been waiting too long, not gonna wait much longer. Will be getting the rig within 2 weeks. In either case, it's Leadtek 8800GTS vs Leadtek 9800GTX, since they're both the cheapest around.

 

[Martimus]

Originally posted by: Goi
Probably gonna take a bit longer to reach our shores since I'm in Singapore. I've been waiting too long, not gonna wait much longer. Will be getting the rig within 2 weeks. In either case, it's Leadtek 8800GTS vs Leadtek 9800GTX, since they're both the cheapest around.

The 9800GTX is built on a higher quality board, with better components so it should overclock better. It is the same chip as the 8800GTS however, so it won't be much better. If they are the same price, then the 9800GTX is a no brainer, but if the 8800GTS is much cheaper, then you should go with that.

 

[Goi]

OK. Looks like I might go with the 9800GTX then. I've yet to see any direct reviews comparing the 2. Seems weird considering how alike they are...

 

[HOOfan 1]

Originally posted by: hans007


but he's talking abou tthe gt200 or the radeon rv770s


the only one of those cards that will be remotely close to the prices of 8800GTS or 9800 GTX is the radeon 4850 though (supposed to be $250)

GTX 280 is supposed to be around $500...I would say that would most likely put the GTX 260 in the $300-$400 range that the 9800GTX occupies now.

 

[VulcanX]

and the 9800 GX2 is completely out the equation due to money correct? because the 9800GTX is pretty expensive for what you getting, but then again you pay for that slightly better

 

[Hauk]

If you need to buy now it's between the GTS and GTX. Primary considerations are size of cards and power connections. If GTX requirements work, it's a no brainer. Easily clocks to 750/1890/2250 and above. If you want to can wait, then obviously the next gen cards are worth a look.

Enjoy, it's only money...

 

[JPB]

Two reviews:

Firing Squad

Tech Report

 

[Goi]

vulcanx, yes the GX2 is quite a bit more expensive. Actually almost twice as much where I am. I thought the 9800GTX was one of the more value for money cards? It's the fastest single chip/card solution now, and it's going for less than what I bought my ATI Radeon 9700Pro back in the day. Of course, it's still more than what I paid for my Voodoo3 3000 way back in the day. OK I guess I'm showing my age here

steelsix, yeah I think i'll be buying pretty soon, within 2 weeks, that's the plan anyway. I've waited for far too long. Just sick of waiting. My current PC's getting less and less stable, and I'm running out of HDD space, so I really need it soon.

JPB thanks for the reviews.

 

[Munky]

The 9800gtx is going less than what you paid for a new 9700pro because at the time the 9700p was untouchable in performance by anything from the opposing camp for a long time. You could say the same thing about the 8800gtx when it was launched 18 months ago, but at this point the 9800gtx no longer qualifies as a true high end card. It's about as fast as the old 8800gtx, and will get beaten soundly by next gen cards which will be released in about a month or so. I would not spend the extra money towards a 9800gtx over a 8800gts, unless they're priced really close.

 

[Goi]

In your opinion what qualifies as a true high end card then? From the reviews only the SLI and XF solutions(whether single or multicard) are able to beat the 9800GTX, unless there's something I don't know about?

 

[Martimus]

Originally posted by: Goi
In your opinion what qualifies as a true high end card then? From the reviews only the SLI and XF solutions(whether single or multicard) are able to beat the 9800GTX, unless there's something I don't know about?

He is just saying that it is more of a refresh of the previous high end card. It isn't really any faster than the 8800GTX. The new high end won't be released in the US until June 18th (for nVidia) and June 16th (for ATI). The 9800GTX is still a good card, expecially if you can get it cheap which you say you can.

 

[taltamir]

people keep going on and on about the 9800GTX being the same chip, that is a lie.
It is only the "same chip" in the regard that the G92 based 9600GT and 8800GT are also the same chip...

The 9800GTX has a higher quality board and power circuitry allowing it to be clocked higher, but it also has some changes in the chip itself.
It has several new features in regard to HD processing.
And it also has hybrid power capability.
The point is, the gaming capabilities of the chips are identical (if clocked the same), the 9800 just has some more features and is clocked higher.
Features are good.

Chip difference (actual physical differences on the chip):
1. new HD decode features
2. Hybrid power feature
Card difference (not related to the chip):
1. tri SLI
2. better power circuitry allowing higher clock speeds.

 

[Goi]

Thanks for all the comments so far. I've gone ahead and ordered a Leadtek 9800GTX and it will arrive tomorrow