8800gts 320 ... is it worth upgrading?

[MarcVenice]

Those games cant be run on a 8800gts 320mb at max settings anyways, so it's a totaly moot point.

If I still had my 8800gts 320mb, right now I would wait for at least rv740/rv3790. With some luck itll be cheap or at least drive down prices of other cards, consume less power and be a decent upgrade at the same time. His 2,8ghz c2d is still a fine cpu even for mid/highend cards like the HD4870, gtx260, and prolly would bottleneck a gtx280, but min framerates should still be very high, save for some cpu-intensive games that aren't around much.

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: Astrallite
I think Crysis hits over 500MB VRAM at 1680x1050 but this is on DX10 Very High settings.

Is it even playable though at very high? In high settings it uses less than 320mb of vram @ 1440x900. @ 1680x1050 it uses something like 350mb.

yes its very playable on very high DX10 settings at 1440 with gtx260.

 

[alcoholbob]

I never got very far in the game (my 8800GT with X2 4400+ system choked big time even on high). I know the C-130 intro scene I hit 17fps with SLI disabled and nearly 30fps. This is at 1080p Very High (no AA/AF). My understanding is its the most demanding scene in the game?--or does it get worse than this?

If that's so I guess it could be playable in a good single card provided motion blur is on (I'm guessing 285 SSC and 260GTX 216 aren't far removed), since it gives the illusion of a higher framerate even when you are in the high teens.

That said it is moot since these games are unplayable but it does validate that 320MB VRAM isn't *that* bad if you are ok with no AA/AF at a low-medium resolution.

 

[yepp]

The Witcher tends to favour ATI cards, well the HD 4000 series at least. I game at a low res too, upgraded from a 7900GTO to a 9800GTX+. Performance in The Witcher hardly benefited at all.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articl...games-fall2008_10.html

 

[alcoholbob]

18fps minimum with SLI 280, 16 with the 9800GTX+...classic signs of Aurora engine performance...the engine is more demanding than Crysis while looking 1/2 as good...if even.

And this is the Enhanced Edition with "better performance." What a mess...better off spending money licensing a decent engine for your next RPG

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: Astrallite
18fps minimum with SLI 280, 16 with the 9800GTX+...classic signs of Aurora engine performance...the engine is more demanding than Crysis while looking 1/2 as good...if even.

And this is the Enhanced Edition with "better performance." What a mess...better off spending money licensing a decent engine for your next RPG

does this game have a built in benchmark? Im downloading the demo right now to see how it runs for me.

 

[cusideabelincoln]

Yall need to stop arguing about VRAM size. Don't any of you recall the problem the 320MB 8800GTS had in some games? Its performance literally tanked while cards with lesser VRAM, like the 256MB X1900 series, did perfectly fine. And in other games, its performance was on par with the 640MB version. So it was all over the place, and who knows if that's happening in the Witcher for him or not.

I say he gets the HD4870 (512MB or 1GB, doesn't matter in this case), which should probably give him almost twice the performance even at that resolution and with that processor.

 

[alcoholbob]

Well the thing with Aurora engine is it struggles with long view distance because it literally renders everything beyond the haze for miles even though you can't see it.

Typically when you are in a room or surrounded by buildings you're framerate goes through the ceiling.

For example in NWN2 my average framerate at max settings with 8xAA is around 150fps in rooms and around 50fps outside, except if I face the horizon when there's a clear path. It's not like in Crysis when performance dives due to shader effects or action. It's just a long distance rendering issue. That's why all video cards hit the same wall since none of them can brute force the long distance rendering.

 

[AzN]

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: Astrallite
I think Crysis hits over 500MB VRAM at 1680x1050 but this is on DX10 Very High settings.

Is it even playable though at very high? In high settings it uses less than 320mb of vram @ 1440x900. @ 1680x1050 it uses something like 350mb.

yes its very playable on very high DX10 settings at 1440 with gtx260.

I was talking about G80GTS. :roll:

 

[AzN]

Originally posted by: cusideabelincoln
Yall need to stop arguing about VRAM size. Don't any of you recall the problem the 320MB 8800GTS had in some games? Its performance literally tanked while cards with lesser VRAM, like the 256MB X1900 series, did perfectly fine. And in other games, its performance was on par with the 640MB version. So it was all over the place, and who knows if that's happening in the Witcher for him or not.

I say he gets the HD4870 (512MB or 1GB, doesn't matter in this case), which should probably give him almost twice the performance even at that resolution and with that processor.

Not really. What games did it tank? Mind giving me links? The memory leaking hoax? It's more like kids were trying to play 1920x1200 with 4xAA and they wondered why their 320vram card was getting tanked.

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: Astrallite
I think Crysis hits over 500MB VRAM at 1680x1050 but this is on DX10 Very High settings.

Is it even playable though at very high? In high settings it uses less than 320mb of vram @ 1440x900. @ 1680x1050 it uses something like 350mb.

yes its very playable on very high DX10 settings at 1440 with gtx260.

I was talking about G80GTS. :roll:

dont be wiener . I thought you were saying something about Crysis not being playable with those settings in general. the 8800gts 640mb might be able to play on very high settings with no AA at 1440.

 

[AzN]

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: Astrallite
I think Crysis hits over 500MB VRAM at 1680x1050 but this is on DX10 Very High settings.

Is it even playable though at very high? In high settings it uses less than 320mb of vram @ 1440x900. @ 1680x1050 it uses something like 350mb.

yes its very playable on very high DX10 settings at 1440 with gtx260.

I was talking about G80GTS. :roll:

dont be wiener . I thought you were saying something about Crysis not being playable with those settings in general. the 8800gts 640mb might be able to play on very high settings with no AA at 1440.

You better edit that before the mods see it and you get the boot again. :roll:

Make some sense Toyota. You were talking about how the G80GTS 640mb was far better than G80GTS 320mb even @ 1440x900. Case in point we were talking about G80GTS which you had no idea in the first place which you admitted to.

If it makes you feel any better I can play Crysis very high 1440 on my 8800gts too then again we weren't talking about your GTX 260 or G92GTS. :disgust:

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: Astrallite
I think Crysis hits over 500MB VRAM at 1680x1050 but this is on DX10 Very High settings.

Is it even playable though at very high? In high settings it uses less than 320mb of vram @ 1440x900. @ 1680x1050 it uses something like 350mb.

yes its very playable on very high DX10 settings at 1440 with gtx260.

I was talking about G80GTS. :roll:

dont be wiener . I thought you were saying something about Crysis not being playable with those settings in general. the 8800gts 640mb might be able to play on very high settings with no AA at 1440.

You better edit that before the mods see it and you get the boot again. :roll:

Make some sense Toyota. You were talking about how the G80GTS 640mb was far better than G80GTS 320mb even @ 1440x900. Case in point we were talking about G80GTS which you had no idea in the first place which you admitted to.

If it makes you feel any better I can play Crysis very high 1440 on my 8800gts too then again we weren't talking about your GTX 260 or G92GTS. :disgust:

yes there you go again trying to stir up old shit as usual. as for this topic I just explained to you that I misunderstood but that isnt good enough.

 

[AzN]

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: Astrallite
I think Crysis hits over 500MB VRAM at 1680x1050 but this is on DX10 Very High settings.

Is it even playable though at very high? In high settings it uses less than 320mb of vram @ 1440x900. @ 1680x1050 it uses something like 350mb.

yes its very playable on very high DX10 settings at 1440 with gtx260.

I was talking about G80GTS. :roll:

dont be wiener . I thought you were saying something about Crysis not being playable with those settings in general. the 8800gts 640mb might be able to play on very high settings with no AA at 1440.

You better edit that before the mods see it and you get the boot again. :roll:

Make some sense Toyota. You were talking about how the G80GTS 640mb was far better than G80GTS 320mb even @ 1440x900. Case in point we were talking about G80GTS which you had no idea in the first place which you admitted to.

If it makes you feel any better I can play Crysis very high 1440 on my 8800gts too then again we weren't talking about your GTX 260 or G92GTS. :disgust:

yes there you go again trying to stir up shit as usual.

Stop trolling. You called me a name and I suggest you edit it. If you don't know what then maybe you should observe than troll.

 

[TurtleCrusher]

I still have my 8800GTS 320mb as a spare. Its is VERY capable of most games. I don't think you guys are giving it credit where it is due. We're not talking about 8600gt's or radeon 2600's, were talking about the 8800GTS 320mb. It was the king of value of its day. It's still awfully fast. It beat out my Radeon 3850 512mb by a good margin. We're talking 1680x1050 all high 2x AA in Warhead, the 8800GTS was a good 4-7fps better, despite the lower but much faster Vram.

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: Astrallite
I think Crysis hits over 500MB VRAM at 1680x1050 but this is on DX10 Very High settings.

Is it even playable though at very high? In high settings it uses less than 320mb of vram @ 1440x900. @ 1680x1050 it uses something like 350mb.

yes its very playable on very high DX10 settings at 1440 with gtx260.

I was talking about G80GTS. :roll:

dont be wiener . I thought you were saying something about Crysis not being playable with those settings in general. the 8800gts 640mb might be able to play on very high settings with no AA at 1440.

You better edit that before the mods see it and you get the boot again. :roll:

Make some sense Toyota. You were talking about how the G80GTS 640mb was far better than G80GTS 320mb even @ 1440x900. Case in point we were talking about G80GTS which you had no idea in the first place which you admitted to.

If it makes you feel any better I can play Crysis very high 1440 on my 8800gts too then again we weren't talking about your GTX 260 or G92GTS. :disgust:

yes there you go again trying to stir up shit as usual.

Dude stop trolling. I'm reporting your ass to the mods.

for saying dont be a wiener and then putting a big grin there to let you know I was kidding? you acted sarcastic and now passive aggressive but as usual you see nothing wrong with how you behave.

 

[AzN]

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: Astrallite
I think Crysis hits over 500MB VRAM at 1680x1050 but this is on DX10 Very High settings.

Is it even playable though at very high? In high settings it uses less than 320mb of vram @ 1440x900. @ 1680x1050 it uses something like 350mb.

yes its very playable on very high DX10 settings at 1440 with gtx260.

I was talking about G80GTS. :roll:

dont be wiener . I thought you were saying something about Crysis not being playable with those settings in general. the 8800gts 640mb might be able to play on very high settings with no AA at 1440.

You better edit that before the mods see it and you get the boot again. :roll:

Make some sense Toyota. You were talking about how the G80GTS 640mb was far better than G80GTS 320mb even @ 1440x900. Case in point we were talking about G80GTS which you had no idea in the first place which you admitted to.

If it makes you feel any better I can play Crysis very high 1440 on my 8800gts too then again we weren't talking about your GTX 260 or G92GTS. :disgust:

yes there you go again trying to stir up shit as usual.

Dude stop trolling. I'm reporting your ass to the mods.

for saying dont be a wiener and then putting a big grin there to let you know I was kidding? you acted sarcastic and now passive aggressive but as usual you see nothing wrong with how you behave.

I suggest you read the forum guide lines. http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2236227&enterthread=y

Zero personal attacks (no matter the degree).

No baiting other members into an altercation.

If you have a problem you shouldn't post here.

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: Astrallite
I think Crysis hits over 500MB VRAM at 1680x1050 but this is on DX10 Very High settings.

Is it even playable though at very high? In high settings it uses less than 320mb of vram @ 1440x900. @ 1680x1050 it uses something like 350mb.

yes its very playable on very high DX10 settings at 1440 with gtx260.

I was talking about G80GTS. :roll:

dont be wiener . I thought you were saying something about Crysis not being playable with those settings in general. the 8800gts 640mb might be able to play on very high settings with no AA at 1440.

You better edit that before the mods see it and you get the boot again. :roll:

Make some sense Toyota. You were talking about how the G80GTS 640mb was far better than G80GTS 320mb even @ 1440x900. Case in point we were talking about G80GTS which you had no idea in the first place which you admitted to.

If it makes you feel any better I can play Crysis very high 1440 on my 8800gts too then again we weren't talking about your GTX 260 or G92GTS. :disgust:

yes there you go again trying to stir up shit as usual.

Dude stop trolling. I'm reporting your ass to the mods.

for saying dont be a wiener and then putting a big grin there to let you know I was kidding? you acted sarcastic and now passive aggressive but as usual you see nothing wrong with how you behave.

I suggest you read the forum guide lines. http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2236227&enterthread=y

Zero personal attacks (no matter the degree).

No baiting other members into an altercation.

If you have a problem you shouldn't post here.

please review your own behavior

 

[AzN]

You seem to have trouble calling people names and last time you did this you took a vacation. if you want to discuss that's fine but when we were talking about G80GTS then out of the wood works you talk about GTX 260. Yes it makes sense and talk out of context only to talk about your card.

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: Azn
You seem to have trouble calling people names and last time you did this you took a vacation. if you want to discuss that's fine but when we were talking about G80GTS then out of the wood works you talk about GTX 260. Yes it makes sense and talk out of context only to talk about your card.

see there you go again. you rolled your eyes at me when all I did was simply misunderstand what you were saying about Crysis. I said dont be a wiener in jest but then you start with the sarcasm again about that and my earlier Crysis comment even though I explained to you that I misunderstood. now for the second time you are bring up old crap just to try and start trouble all the while calling me a troll. oh the irony...

 

[AzN]

Rolled my eyes because you were not making much sense. Why talk about your card when we were talking about 8800gts 320vram vs 640mb in the first place? Then you say don't be a wiener? Should I have said don't be a dumb ass? You are bating for altercation and started being personal. Anyways I've already PM the moderator.

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: Azn
Rolled my eyes because you were not making much sense. Why talk about your card when we were talking about 8800gts 320vram vs 640mb in the first place? Then you say don't be a wiener? Should I have said don't be a dumb ass? You are bating for altercation and started being personal. Anyways I've already PM the moderator.

and Im sure after reading through this thread he will appreciate you wasting his time because I have done nothing wrong. maybe he should question your motives for trying to stir up trouble.

 

[alcoholbob]

lol what a mess.

Well on the topic of memory leaks I did have a 320MB 8800GTS Fata1lty edition and an MSI 512MB 8800GT OC to play with while I was deciding which card to get back in 07 (speed vs VRAM).

NWN2 was one game where the 320MB 8800GTS did exhibit strange behavior (well documented). While in the middle of a game, loading a new game would drop the game to single digit fps. The remedy was odd--tab out and return to the game, and the framerate would return to normal. My 7800GTX and the 8800GT didn't exhibit this behavior. And again, many people reported it on the Bioware forums.

Now some people just lumped this under "memory leak." Of course its unknown (and probably will never be known) why this actually happened with the 320MB 8800GTS and whether or not it had anything to do with memory issues. Still in then-current gen games the G80 8800GTS did have better brute force capability than the G92 8800GT.

 

[toyota]

just to show you guys how mature Azn actually is here is his private message to me copy and pasted.


"Hello Toyota. You have a brain capacity of a southern 13 year old retard living in AlaBAMA. your mommy buys all your hardware and just plain out retarded. I'm surprised they let you out of of retard school to post shit on the internet."



http://img212.imageshack.us/my...?image=11581240sy6.jpg

 

[nOOky]

To the OP. If you are having issues with a game you want to run better right now, why wait? The next generation of cards won't be cheaper, won't be out for months, and probably will take a few months to iron the bugs out. I would recommend buying what you want today. Either of the cards you listed will give you a healthy boost, and a more enjoyable game experience. If you keep waiting for the next thing to come out, you'll keep playing your games unhappily. Prices for good mid range gpus are pretty low right now, rebates added.