8800GT too expensive? 8800GS is here

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NVIDIA is going to release Geforce 8800GS 192bit 384MB and 768MB soon, but this time non-reference version comes first. We don?t know it will come so fast, but the card is here. Not only Yeston, but Unika and Gainwand also will release their 8800GS soon. If you like, you can read the small test posted earlier.

The first card showing up today is a Yeston 8800GS 384MB made by Palit. The Card only have 6 memory chip, and the mark on the GPU is G92-150. The SP number is not 96 we mentioned earlier, but 112, the same with 8800GT.

The second card in the next page is 8800GS 192bit 768MB GDDR3. The main difference is the core and shader clock higher than 384MB version. 384MB have a HDMI slot while 768MB have two DVI. 768MB version?s memory chip is from Samsumg, have 12 memory chips totally.

The price tag of 8800GS 384MB will be 1199CNY, about 164USD, 8800GS 768MB will be 1499CNY(same as Sapphire 512M HD3850), about 204USD.

Though this is a Yeston card, but other brand?s first shipment of 8800GS will all look the same, they are all made by Palit. So if you are expecting a different 8800GS, wait for our update.

Looks great for people with 12x10 monitor, or even 16x12 and are on a tight budget. This card will probably hold til the rumoured 9600 series is released.

 

[betasub]

Yeston, but Unika and Gainwand

 

[Inspector Jihad]

neat

 

[daveybrat]

Any major brands gonna produce these soon? I.e. XFX, EVGA, MSI ??

 

[Ares202]

like the 7900gs of old then

 

[wanderer27]

So where does this fit in with the 8800GT and 8800GTS?

Is it:

GS -> GT -> GTS

GT -> GS -> GTS (don't know how this would happen as GT/GTS difference is low).

GT -> GTS -> GS


Is the bus on this smaller than the new GT's? If it is, why add the extra Memory but reduce the Bandwidth?


Hey NVidia, how about a new High end card ?

 

[tigersty1e]

So 128 bit cards can't take advantage of 512 MB...

How will 192 bit cards take advantage of 768MB? Am I mistaken?

 

[Saiyukimot]

It will be GS -> GT -> GTS

 

[wanderer27]

Originally posted by: tigersty1e
So 128 bit cards can't take advantage of 512 MB...

How will 192 bit cards take advantage of 768MB? Am I mistaken?

I just now put this together myself, I believe we now have the following flavors:

128bit -> 128M, 256M (x2), 512M (x4)
192bit -> 384M (x2), 768M (x4)
256bit -> 256M, 512M (x2), 1024M (x4)
384bit -> 384M, 768M (x2)

 

[schneiderguy]

nvidia really needs to stop releasing 8800 cards. It's confusing to have 7 different 8800 models.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Originally posted by: schneiderguy
nvidia really needs to stop releasing 8800 cards. It's confusing to have 7 different 8800 models.

Yeah I agree, seriously. Too late now though. If they called this new one a 8900GS then things would really me mucked up.

 

[spittledip]

So these cards are supposed to perform the same as the 3850 and the 3870?

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: wanderer27

Originally posted by: tigersty1e
So 128 bit cards can't take advantage of 512 MB...

How will 192 bit cards take advantage of 768MB? Am I mistaken?

I just now put this together myself, I believe we now have the following flavors:

128bit -> 128M, 256M (x2), 512M (x4)
192bit -> 384M (x2), 768M (x4)
256bit -> 256M, 512M (x2), 1024M (x4)
384bit -> 384M, 768M (x2)

I believe the GPGPU version of the 8800gtx also has a 1.5GB model

 

[zagood]

nV on a red PCB? *shudder*

-z

 

[wanderer27]

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: wanderer27

Originally posted by: tigersty1e
So 128 bit cards can't take advantage of 512 MB...

How will 192 bit cards take advantage of 768MB? Am I mistaken?

I just now put this together myself, I believe we now have the following flavors:

128bit -> 128M, 256M (x2), 512M (x4)
192bit -> 384M (x2), 768M (x4)
256bit -> 256M, 512M (x2), 1024M (x4)
384bit -> 384M, 768M (x2)

I believe the GPGPU version of the 8800gtx also has a 1.5GB model

Yeah, now that you mention it, I do vaguely recall something about that.

So I guess we can add 384bit -> 1536M (x4).

 

[Avalon]

Their pricing is weird. The 8800GS 768MB is going to be $200, the same price as the 256MB 8800GT. If both cards have the same SPs, there would have to be a noticeable difference in core/mem clocks to differentiate the two cards, otherwise who would buy the 8800GT 256MB? For that matter, if there was a notable difference in core/shader/mem speeds, then wouldn't the 3850 be more than competitive, considering it's cheaper? Running with that theory, the 768MB model is supposed to have higher core/shader/mem clocks than the 384MB model, which is the one that would have the price parity with the Radeon 3850...but it'd be slower.

Not seeing where these are slotting in...

Either Nvidia is pushing the 8800GT range of cards completely above their intended target, or they are cannibalizing themselves with the new ones.

 

[angry hampster]

Originally posted by: spittledip
So these cards are supposed to perform the same as the 3850 and the 3870?

Nah. It'll be comparable to a 3850 256mb and 3850 512mb. The 3870 is a close competitor with the GT.

 

[Killrose]

I guess nvidia is not liking the beating the 8600gts is getting from the 3850 and feels it has to release something to trounce it and at the sametime run neck and neck with the 3870 price/performance wise. This is going to get confusing as they try and micro manage performance differences between SKU's.

 

[Syntax Error]

Okay, it's getting confusing telling the difference between the 1029131321 different 8800 models. :thumbsdown:

 

[Keysplayr]

Forget the "old" G80's. Just focus on G92 based 8800's and it's quite simple.

1. 8800GS.......112 shader.......384MB.......192-bit
2. 8800GS.......112 shader.......768MB.......192-bit
3. 8800GT.......112 shader.......256MB.......256-bit
4. 8800GT.......112 shader.......512MB.......256-bit
5. 8800GTS.....128 shader.......512MB.......256-bit

A total of 5 new cards to fit almost every price niche. What's the prob? How hard is this to keep track of?
If I can do it, even with early senility setting in, I know the rest of you can.

 

[Arcanedeath]

You forgot the 112 shader 1gb 8800GT 256-bit

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Arcanedeath
You forgot the 112 shader 1gb 8800GT 256-bit

It's still an 8800GT. So technically, there are only three new GPU's.

8800GS various memory configs
8800GT various memory configs
8800GTS various memory configs

 

[Cheex]

Nvidia is having a lot of fun making money right now. I don't blame them but........

If it were me....I'd do it differently.....

8800GT drops to 8600GTS price and replaces that.
8800GTS drops to 8800GT price and replaces that.
Launch D9E in January and replace 8800GTX/Ultra @ $500.

With that formula, no one would ever buy an ATI card.....

Nvidia???....Are you listening???

 

[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by: Cheex
Nvidia is having a lot of fun making money right now. I don't blame them but........

If it were me....I'd do it differently.....

8800GT drops to 8600GTS price and replaces that.
8800GTS drops to 8800GT price and replaces that.
Launch D9E in January and replace 8800GTX/Ultra @ $500.

With that formula, no one would ever buy an ATI card.....

Nvidia???....Are you listening???

8800GT at 8600GTS price = an absolute killing of margin.

Good for the consumer.. but BAD business for nVIDIA.

 

[evolucion8]

A 192-bit BUS is a bit odd, it would only mean that is based on the G80, not in the G92 which supports 256-Bits BUS, the 8800 series is getting long in the tooth and still releasing more cards under that name, looks like X800 all over again. X800SE, X800, X800XL (256MB and 512MB), X800 Crosssfire, X800PRO, X800XT, X800XT PE, now we got 8800GS, 8800GT (256MB and 512MB), 8800GTS 320, 8800GTS 640, 8800GTS (512MB and not sure if 256MB), 8800GTX, 8800Ultra, meh.