8800GT performance

Kraeoss

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i'm getting an 8800GT for my current rig but i 'm wondering if it's gonna affect the card's performance i.e. degrade the experiance of my gaming fps wise...
 

Andrew1990

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Very much. The sempron 2800+ is one of the lowest end CPUs that is paired with PCIe. Even a Geforce 6800GT would be bottlenecked. Try and at least upgrade to a AMD Athlon64 3700+ assuming you are on socket 754, or a Athlon64 4000+ on 939.

If it is AM2, then you can get a cheap X2.
 

taltamir

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did you buy it yet? last i checked the 9800GT was actually cheaper, at 110$, then the 8800GT. And it is a little better. (same for games, but it has a better cooler by default, and it has some video output improvements for HTPC)
 
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Originally posted by: taltamir
did you buy it yet? last i checked the 9800GT was actually cheaper, at 110$, then the 8800GT. And it is a little better. (same for games, but it has a better cooler by default, and it has some video output improvements for HTPC)

meh, it has the exact same cooler as the 6800GT (my XFX does that is)
 

Denithor

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Nice double post, you should only post in one forum and let people answer there.

Basically though, a Semp 2800 is not enough to push more than maybe an 8600GT to the fullest (and maybe not even that). Many of today's games really benefit from two cores instead of just one and even if they aren't multithreaded they still get a boost from one core being dedicated to the game while the other runs everything else.
 

taltamir

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the UE3 engine actually handles 4 cores really well...

@ soccerballtux... what does?
And who cares, the 9800GT has a dual slot cooler that vents outwards, which is higher quality then a single slot 8800GT cooler, and thus more expensive. AND the whole package costs LESS money right now...

Paying less to get more is a good deal in my book, even if that more is of arguable worth.
 

toyota

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Originally posted by: taltamir
did you buy it yet? last i checked the 9800GT was actually cheaper, at 110$, then the 8800GT. And it is a little better. (same for games, but it has a better cooler by default, and it has some video output improvements for HTPC)
the 8800gt is much cheaper on average. also most use the same cooler which is the revised 8800gt cooler.

 

toyota

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Originally posted by: taltamir
the UE3 engine actually handles 4 cores really well...

@ soccerballtux... what does?
And who cares, the 9800GT has a dual slot cooler that vents outwards, which is higher quality then a single slot 8800GT cooler, and thus more expensive. AND the whole package costs LESS money right now...

Paying less to get more is a good deal in my book, even if that more is of arguable worth.
what are you talking about? the 8800gt and 9800gt are the same cards and use the same cooler. companies can stick whatever cooler they want to on there but the reference coolers are the same. you must be thinking of that ASUS 9800gt Ultimate that is really just a rebadged 8800gts 512mb card. take 1 minute to search through cards on newegg before you starting talking nonsense.

 

toyota

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Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Originally posted by: taltamir
did you buy it yet? last i checked the 9800GT was actually cheaper, at 110$, then the 8800GT. And it is a little better. (same for games, but it has a better cooler by default, and it has some video output improvements for HTPC)

meh, it has the exact same cooler as the 6800GT (my XFX does that is)
XFX is notorious for sticking old coolers on some of their newer cars.

 

taltamir

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mmm, i see what you mean, this is what confused me:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16814130397

evga 9800GT with a twin cooler.

Anyways, "much cheaper on average" doesn't matter, its the cheapest that matters. And recently due to dwindling stock the 8800GT went up in price, while the 9800GT has never been lower, and the cheaper of the two was 9800GT.
If this is NOT the case anymore, then by all means, buy the 8800Gt. But do check them both out for price comparison first.
 

Kraeoss

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1. i'm using a socket am2
2. yes i did double post cause i realize i put it in the wrong area.
3.i'm getting the card second-hand i dont live in the U.S. so i take what i can get when the deal is good. so basically when i factor in the shipping costs n stuff it boils down to like 80 us for the card. which is pretty good i think.


the card in question is a Leadtek px8800 GT 512 mb ddr3.
comments welcome to advise me as to the general quality of this make and/or suggest a reasonable alternative if any

much thanks to the AT Forum ppl
 

quadomatic

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If you're on socket AM2, you should probably try to pick up a new processor, since a sempron is going to be an extreme bottleneck to an 8800GT.
 

toyota

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yes you need a modern dual core cpu and 2 gigs of ram if you are even considering a card like the 8800gt.
 

Kraeoss

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yea i'm looking for a used x2 somewhere around home for cheap. i would like to switch platforms but the amd ati offerings looks really tempting. so i'm still kinda torn between where i should go. the ram also i'm getting a guy bought too much ram for his mobo and is selling it off dirt cheap. so i'm taking advantage of that offer. the ram is corsair 2x2 gb xms2 800 i'm getting it for 600 that's roughly the price with shipping from egg

 

Kraeoss

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hrmm the only black edition i see is the 5400+ BE and it's 77. that will cost me around $900 to ship home to me. i saw the 5000+ for like $59.50 but the be is a better buy all round. also does the pci-e power connector come with the card or it's supposed to be on the psu ?
 

myocardia

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Kraeoss, if you're planning on replacing the CPU later, grab the 8800GT now. It's a great card, especially for the prices they're selling for now. It's just that that Sempron is less than half as fast of a CPU as the 8800GT needs to have pushing it, so you definitely don't want to try matching one with a Sempron 2800 in a longterm scenario. Also, the PCI-E connector is attached directly to the PSU. If yours doesn't have one, there's a good chance it won't even be able to handle an 8800GT.
 

Denithor

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Eh...there will be a 2x molex (4-pin) to PCIe adapter with the video card (at least, if the seller includes all the original accessories).

The X2 5000+ is not a bad chip at all. And keep in mind, the Black Edition processors are the bare chip only, no heatsink/fan included.
 

Kraeoss

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meh.. @ my sad little psu oh well i guess i'll have to source a second hand one at home too then. cash is my only setback a 600 w psu here is close to $800+ lol. is there no other way to use the card ??! if only there was a safe way to like add one to my psu.
 

taltamir

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yea, for 80$ it is a good deal. the 9800GT might have some benefits, and might be cheaper on newegg, but it is the same speed in games... yet 30$ more (the 8800GT is even more than then bought new at the egg at the moment)
 

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Tell us the specs on your PSU, especially the amperage on the +12v rail/s. Should be on a sticker on the side of it.
If it can't handle an 8800gt and you don't want to have to get a new PSU what you want to look for is an HD 3670. Not as good as an 8800gt but it's pretty good with minimal power requirements. It's $80 at the moment but it just came out so the prices should go down if you show a little patience.

This is the CPU people were suggesting you upgrade to;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16819103215
 

Kraeoss

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well my mobo doesnt support that chip, well at least the cpu support page says so. so i feel i'll stick it out get the card and a new psu for the moment if i can get a 5000+ x2 that will be great :D