8800GT :( I have a 660W Quad rail PSU, and it doesn't power the 800GT says not enough amps on the 12V rail :(

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BFG10K

Lifer
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superHARD, you need to pay attention to what N7 is telling you. The amperage is combined across your 12V rails.

I AM getting the errors...they are not coming from no where...
What errors? Describe exactly what you're getting.

Also you aren't trying to overclock your video card are you? :roll:
 

superHARD

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Originally posted by: BFG10K
superHARD, you need to pay attention to what N7 is telling you. The amperage is combined across your 12V rails.

I AM getting the errors...they are not coming from no where...
What errors? Describe exactly what you're getting.

Also you aren't trying to overclock your video card are you? :roll:

This is a glitch with the 8800gt :(
I have the extra power plug plugged in...
I am not trying to OC...

One guy said he changed his MOBO and it fixed the problem, so I am looking into bios updates, chipset drivers, etc.

Just google "8800gt not enough power" and you'll see what I'm talking about... :(
 

superHARD

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
List your system specs.

It's definitely not a power issue.

Not a power issue...so when I plug in a PSU only to the video card, and the error goes away, what does that mean?

Enermax 660 PSU
BFG 8800GT OC
E4300
150 Raptor
some hd's and dvd burners...
 

Capt Caveman

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Motherboard?

Then you may have a faulty psu as folks are running their oc'd 8800GT's on 250w psu's.

And note my 8800GT SSC 700/1000 is running off of a Seasonic S12-500 which only has 12v rails of 17A and 16A. I also ran a X1900XTX, a more power hungry video card, off this psu without issues.
 

ManWithNoName

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Originally posted by: superHARD
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
List your system specs.

It's definitely not a power issue.

Not a power issue...so when I plug in a PSU only to the video card, and the error goes away, what does that mean?

Per previous post....


Originally posted by: ManWithNoName

Also, as ArchAngel suggested you may also have the firmware issue with your power supply that has affected some 8800GTX users. I have also seen this same issue "appear" to effect some 8800GT users as well so you may want to consider swapping power supplies or puting your card in another system for testing.

So unless your power supply is bad, it very well could be the power supply firmware bug mentioned previously by Archangel and myself. Either way, you need to change your power supply or put your card in another system for testing.

Edit:

I just looked up your power supply .....again, this time the Enermax, and two seperate reviews have your +12v rails at .. 14a, 18a, 16a, 14a = 480w, divide by 12v and that gives you 40a of sustained/continuous power on your combined +12v rails. the 62a figured stated previously is for max/peak power on the +12v rail, not sustained/continuous power. I thought you said you had four 19a +12v rails or at least one??

So if the above is correct and you now have 40a on the +12v rail, depending on how loaded your system is, and whether or not your +12v rail has degraded, you may indeed have not enough power.

http://www.reviewboard.com/articles_ektid299.aspx


Round and Round we go, I'm jumping off this merry-go-round....Good Luck



 

ss284

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This thread is hilarious. I feel sorry for the people who wasted time on this.
 

dreddfunk

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superHard - there are some smart folks on these boards, but even they need a good deal of information to help in most cases.

For starters, post all of your system specs, including manufacturers and any existing overclocks:

1) GPU - which BFG model? Can you give a link so we can look at the specs?
2) PSUs - you've given the specifications for the Enermax, but you've also mentioned an Antec, which Antec?
3) Motherboard - what motherboard are you using? Does it have the latest BIOS update?
4) RAM - number, make, speed and timings?
5) CPU - e4300, fine, but are you overclocking it? If so, how much? (multiplier x front side bus)
6) Other - how many HDs and of what type? How many DVD/CD drives?

Also, describe exactly what the problem is, and perhaps be a bit more verbose than simply saying, "when the OS boots I get a 'your video card is underpowered error'." You may consider answering some of the following questions:

1) What gives you the error? Windows? A GPU utility?
2) Have you experienced any general instability?
3) How much is the GPU underclocked?
4) Have you tried gaming? If so, have you experienced instability?
5) When jumpering the other PSU over, which PSU did you use? Did you perform any tests in this configuration (gaming, etc.)?


As an aside, my wife is one of the brightest people I've ever met, she's also one of the most frustrating people for whom I have to diagnose problems. The reason: she's always jumping ahead too quickly, having made intelligent assumptions that sometimes turn out to be false.

Let the folks here lead you through the process, and you'll give them a much better chance to actually help you.

Cheers.
 

Tempered81

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superhard uses english as a 2nd language and i believe he is either canadian, chinese, or visually impaired. or uses dragon text to speech 9

JK! :)

but on a serious note, just listen to what these people are telling you. and how does the os notify you that " the video card is underpowered"

is that even a possible error message?
 

ManWithNoName

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Originally posted by: jaredpace
superhard uses english as a 2nd language and i believe he is either canadian, chinese, or visually impaired. or uses dragon text to speech 9

JK! :)

but on a serious note, just listen to what these people are telling you. and how does the os notify you that " the video card is underpowered"

is that even a possible error message?

Jumping back on he merry-go-round and I want the pink horsey this time....

The error he is likely getting is this and it's produced by the graphics card, not the OS, when it's under-powered or you don't have the PCI-E cable plugged in or ........

As Archangel and I mentioned this error was produced in some configurations that used the 8800GTX, even if the power supply was furnishing enough power because of a bug in the power supply's firmware.

So either the 40a +12v rail his power supply has is not enough or he has encountered the firmware bug. I've seen a few others with the 8800GT that appear to have this issue.

Likely Error: This also produces a Event ID: 14 error in Event Log I believe

"The NVIDIA System Sentinel is reporting that the NVIDIA-powered graphics card is not receiving sufficient power.

To protect your hardware from potential damage or causing a potential system lockup, the graphics processor has lowered its performance to a level that allows continued safe operations."


Just an educated guess though.

Jumping off Merry-Go-Round again.
 

taltamir

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wait wait wait WAIT...

WINDOWS tell you "your video card is underpowered" when it boots? Are you kidding me?
1. It sounds like a corney virus that makes fun of your video card's performance.
2. I cannot imagine how windows will know how much power your video card gets, windows doesn't monitor those things.
3. If you really had an underpowered video card it wouldn't be posting. Much less successfully getting into windows with things displayed.
 

JBT

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Guys search the net this is happening to a few people here and there and SUPERhard since you have searched and found the problem. Get a new PSU, yours in incompatible with the 8800GT for some reason.

Call the manufacterer and check with them they may be willing to help you out or already have a new revision on the way that resolves the issue.
 

Dravic

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Originally posted by: superHARD
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
List your system specs.

It's definitely not a power issue.

Not a power issue...so when I plug in a PSU only to the video card, and the error goes away, what does that mean?

Enermax 660 PSU
BFG 8800GT OC
E4300
150 Raptor
some hd's and dvd burners...


home many exactly is some?
 

Synomenon

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I read about similar problems on other forums. It's a problem with certain PSUs when used with 8800 series cards.
 

dreddfunk

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Can anyone confirm that the Enermax is one of the PSUs that are having problems?

Talk about a good sticky thread for the video forum: PSUs that *aren't* compatible with the 8800gt.

hmmm...
 

NaOH

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I would try to help, but there is nothing I can do at the moment except waste time until he gives specific details on what he is running and a screen shot of the damn error message from the "OS"



So SCREENSHOT please!
 

Hippiekiller

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Some people in this world are too stupid to be helped.

Not you of course superHARD, you are obviously one of supreme intellect capable of making very intelligent vague statements which convey nothing to the reader.

Next
 

ManWithNoName

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Found this over at the evga.com forums. I'm assuming this is the error message that the OP got - http://www.evga.com/forums/upf...BEB62877404A5ADDAD.jpg

Yes that would be it, per my previous post on the last page. Can't blame you for not reading through this thread, it's a mess ....

Originally posted by: ManWithNoName

The error he is likely getting is this and it's produced by the graphics card, not the OS, when it's under-powered or you don't have the PCI-E cable plugged in or ........

As Archangel and I mentioned this error was produced in some configurations that used the 8800GTX, even if the power supply was furnishing enough power because of a bug in the power supply's firmware.

So either the 40a +12v rail his power supply has is not enough or he has encountered the firmware bug. I've seen a few others with the 8800GT that appear to have this issue.

Likely Error: This also produces a Event ID: 14 error in Event Log I believe

"The NVIDIA System Sentinel is reporting that the NVIDIA-powered graphics card is not receiving sufficient power.

To protect your hardware from potential damage or causing a potential system lockup, the graphics processor has lowered its performance to a level that allows continued safe operations."