based upon the 8800gt 512 vs 3870 battle, it seems likely that 8800gt 256 will be faster than 3850, even with the slightly lower memory clock vs the 512 version. 3850 will probably end up being 20-30 cheaper with the oc and/or 512 versions being equal in price to 8800gt 512. There's going to be a lot of customer confusion about which card to buy. nvidia vs amd in gpus is pretty easy to figure out if price/availability are equal right now, but when you throw intel's muscle into the mix with xfire then I think that amd will get a LOT more sales now. Nvidia could eventually have to open up sli to intel...how nice would it be to be able to get a nehalem mobo with both xfire AND sli available? 🙂