8800 GTX Benchmarks Here!

[Ronin]

Flame on, Bling. You obviously don't know Victor.

Try going back and checking the archives for previous launches, and see how far off he was.

Side note: No, you can't use ATiTool to OC nVIDIA cards, but you can use the artifacting tool for stability tests.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
But why does the memory say 520MHz?

DDR. 520 = 1040.

 

[morgash]

on ATItool when u try to OC an nvidia card the mem is always at 1/4th the actual setting. making it really hard to OC nvidia cards cuz you can only go up by 4 each time instead of one. which in turn means that the mem is either running AT or oced TO 2080mhz. thats some pretty damn fast ddr3 but not unbelievable considering i had my 7900gt up to 2ghz mem at 2.2 volts on air.

Morgash

 

[Pabster]

Yeah, but the screencap was from ATI Tray Tools. Unless you tell it to display the true RAM speed it always uses 1/2.

 

[morgash]

the screen cap in the link the OP provided is from atitool(not ati tray tools) which always shows nvidia cards at 1/4 the true mem speed.

Morgash

 

[Pabster]

You're right, it is ATITool. I stand corrected!

2080MHz is certainly possible, though I would expect that more from GDDR4.

 

[morgash]

yeah i would imagine he has some serious overvolting going on. though if the mem is indeed rated at 900mhz ddr (1800mhz) then 2ghz is not out of the question by any means especially with more volts and possibly loose timings.

Morgash

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

Originally posted by: Pabster
You're right, it is ATITool. I stand corrected!

2080MHz is certainly possible, though I would expect that more from GDDR4.

But the 8800 is GDDR3

Oh I see your point.. you would expect "that more" as in 180 mhz increase being easier on GDDR4 than GDDR3?

 

[morgash]

i think he was saying he would expect 2ghz mem speed more out of gddr4 than gddr3. the slowest gddr4 runs at 2ghz whereas the fastest gddr3 STOCK runs at 1800mhz.

Morgash

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself
But the 8800 is GDDR3

Oh I see your point.. you would expect "that more" as in 180 mhz increase being easier on GDDR4 than GDDR3?

Yes, as I've seen plenty of X1950's running at or very near 2200MHz on the RAM.

 

[Cheesetogo]

I really hope these aren't real...if it's barely better than a 7950GX2 that's gonna suck.

 

[moonboy403]

come on guys....the card did its job which roughly equals to sli and crossfire solution of previous generation cards

this trend is perfectly normal...just look back at 7800 gtx which roughly equals to 2 6800ultra

and 7950GX2 is practically an sli solution hence the comparison is unfair

 

[Ulfhednar]

Originally posted by: moonboy403
and 7950GX2 is practically an sli solution hence the comparison is unfair

The 7950GX2 also costs about £200 less.

 

[moonboy403]

Originally posted by: Ulfhednar

Originally posted by: moonboy403
and 7950GX2 is practically an sli solution hence the comparison is unfair

The 7950GX2 also costs about £200 less.

we aren't sure of g80's price just yet....the preorders out there might be a result of price gouging

and we really don't know anything about g80 yet...maybe less of a performance hit when aa is enabled?....and remember, g80 has many more features compare to 7950gx2

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

Originally posted by: Ulfhednar

Originally posted by: moonboy403
and 7950GX2 is practically an sli solution hence the comparison is unfair

The 7950GX2 also costs about £200 less.

But this card's strenght will probably be features + IQ + AA/AF performance, not some crappy 1024x768 benchmark :roll:

Damn those XS guys for not testing it decently

 

[Dethfrumbelo]

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself

Originally posted by: Ulfhednar

Originally posted by: moonboy403
and 7950GX2 is practically an sli solution hence the comparison is unfair

The 7950GX2 also costs about £200 less.

But this card's strenght will probably be features + IQ + AA/AF performance, not some crappy 1024x768 benchmark :roll:

Damn those XS guys for not testing it decently

Maybe it'll also be able to help out with physics, which can cause some of the biggest slowdowns in games.

I guess this means the NDA is lifted. Let's see some game benches now - 1600x1200 8xAA/16xAF/HDR.

 

[Ulfhednar]

Originally posted by: moonboy403

Originally posted by: Ulfhednar

Originally posted by: moonboy403
and 7950GX2 is practically an sli solution hence the comparison is unfair

The 7950GX2 also costs about £200 less.

we aren't sure of g80's price just yet....the preorders out there might be a result of price gouging

and we really don't know anything about g80 yet...maybe less of a performance hit when aa is enabled?....and remember, g80 has many more features compare to 7950gx2

Actually, Gibbo of OcUK has all but broken NDA by hinting at a £450-£500 price point. This is accurate considering that previous leaked info suggested $540 F.O.B. before shipping, retailer mark-up and tax. Even going on that alone you get £450-£500 for U.K. consumers and Gibbo has practically spat it out in plain English.

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself
But this card's strenght will probably be features + IQ + AA/AF performance, not some crappy 1024x768 benchmark

Damn those XS guys for not testing it decently

3D Mark '06 defaults to 1280x960 IIRC, it's been a while since I've done it. There's easily enough eye candy in that particular benchmark to accurately bench though as people are still benching with 3D Mark '05 and getting accurate comparisons for the 7950GX2 et cetera.

Going on 3D Mark '06 benchmarks you get a rough guide, and that rough guide says that the 8800GTX is a little faster than a 7950GX2. With the price difference between £300-£350 and £450-£500, and with DirectX 10 being a moot marketing point, I think we know which will be the better buy. Especially so considering that the 7950GX2 will obviously drop in price once the 8800GTX and 8800GTS are launched.

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

Originally posted by: Ulfhednar

Originally posted by: moonboy403

Originally posted by: Ulfhednar

Originally posted by: moonboy403
and 7950GX2 is practically an sli solution hence the comparison is unfair

The 7950GX2 also costs about £200 less.

we aren't sure of g80's price just yet....the preorders out there might be a result of price gouging

and we really don't know anything about g80 yet...maybe less of a performance hit when aa is enabled?....and remember, g80 has many more features compare to 7950gx2

Actually, Gibbo of OcUK has all but broken NDA by hinting at a £450-£500 price point. This is accurate considering that previous leaked info suggested $540 F.O.B. before shipping, retailer mark-up and tax. Even going on that alone you get £450-£500 for U.K. consumers and Gibbo has practically spat it out in plain English.

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself
But this card's strenght will probably be features + IQ + AA/AF performance, not some crappy 1024x768 benchmark

Damn those XS guys for not testing it decently

3D Mark '06 defaults to 1280x960 IIRC, it's been a while since I've done it. There's easily enough eye candy in that particular benchmark to accurately bench though as people are still benching with 3D Mark '05 and getting accurate comparisons for the 7950GX2 et cetera.

Going on 3D Mark '06 benchmarks you get a rough guide, and that rough guide says that the 8800GTX is a little faster than a 7950GX2. With the price difference between £300-£350 and £450-£500, and with DirectX 10 being a moot marketing point, I think we know which will be the better buy. Especially so considering that the 7950GX2 will obviously drop in price once the 8800GTX and 8800GTS are launched.

But the 8800 will probably be much faster at AA, probably faster than x1900, and 3dmark doesnt test that... Which is rather stupid since anyone that buys a card like that will always play with AA on

Which means, without AA sure, the 8800 wont pull far ahead, but once you turn some eye candy options I bet it will

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

Originally posted by: Ronin
Flame on, Bling. You obviously don't know Victor.

Try going back and checking the archives for previous launches, and see how far off he was.

i blame it on the flu iam havin rite now. :/
and dont get me wrong iam not saying hes fakin his few benches. all iam sayin is that its kinda weird, that its the same guy and that he does not seem to be too enthusiastic about more benches. i would bench all night if i was the first guy on the planet with brand new hardware like that. btw any ideas how he does it? how come hes first...mysterious victor....or aeg? oh..the flu kickin in again...must resist...

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch

Originally posted by: Ronin
Flame on, Bling. You obviously don't know Victor.

Try going back and checking the archives for previous launches, and see how far off he was.

i blame it on the flu iam havin rite now. :/
and dont get me wrong iam not saying hes fakin his few benches. all iam sayin is that its kinda weird, that its the same guy and that he does not seem to be too enthusiastic about more benches. i would bench all night if i was the first guy on the planet with brand new hardware like that. btw any ideas how he does it? how come hes first...mysterious victor....or aeg? oh..the flu kickin in again...must resist...

The thing is, he is a typical XS guy, so he only cares about 3dmark.. If he were testing a new cpu, he would only care about superPI, sucks but its true (he actually showed the superpi scores of the kentsfield on the g80 thread... -_-)

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself
But the 8800 will probably be much faster at AA, probably faster than x1900, and 3dmark doesnt test that... Which is rather stupid since anyone that buys a card like that will always play with AA on

Which means, without AA sure, the 8800 wont pull far ahead, but once you turn some eye candy options I bet it will

I dunno, that didnt sway a whole bunch of ppl from the 7900gtx to the x1900xt/x, since those also had better IQ, features, and less AA performance hit. Not to mention how hot and power-hungry the g80 must be. I guess Nv tried so hard on the GX2, that now they're gonna have trouble trumping that card with a single gpu.

 

[Elfear]

Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch

i blame it on the flu iam havin rite now. :/
and dont get me wrong iam not saying hes fakin his few benches. all iam sayin is that its kinda weird, that its the same guy and that he does not seem to be too enthusiastic about more benches. i would bench all night if i was the first guy on the planet with brand new hardware like that. btw any ideas how he does it? how come hes first...mysterious victor....or aeg? oh..the flu kickin in again...must resist...

Victor is a reliable source and I imagine the reason he isn't benching like crazy is a) he's been through quite a few pre-launch benching sessions and the excitement of being the first one has worn of a bit and b) he says he's working 60hrs a week which doesn't leave much time to bench, especially since he's married and may or may not have kids.

The scores are looking pretty good but I'd like to see the high-res max eye candy benchmarks. Especially Oblivion.

 

[virtualrain]

Originally posted by: Elfear

Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch

i blame it on the flu iam havin rite now. :/
and dont get me wrong iam not saying hes fakin his few benches. all iam sayin is that its kinda weird, that its the same guy and that he does not seem to be too enthusiastic about more benches. i would bench all night if i was the first guy on the planet with brand new hardware like that. btw any ideas how he does it? how come hes first...mysterious victor....or aeg? oh..the flu kickin in again...must resist...

Victor is a reliable source and I imagine the reason he isn't benching like crazy is a) he's been through quite a few pre-launch benching sessions and the excitement of being the first one has worn of a bit and b) he says he's working 60hrs a week which doesn't leave much time to bench, especially since he's married and may or may not have kids.

The scores are looking pretty good but I'd like to see the high-res max eye candy benchmarks. Especially Oblivion.

As for Victor... All correct Mr. Elfear. If anyone bothered to read the entire thread that's linked in the OP you would understand Victor's situation. He is an incredibly reliable bleeding edge source for pre-launch info.

On the peformance of the card, I agree with what many are saying... Let's see what it can do for image quality!!! For crying out loud, I get 75 fps in BF 2142 with my 7900 GS and all settings maxed... Do I need or want 200 fps... No!

What I want to see in coming generations of cards is not massive frame improvements in old games or old benchmark improvements, but what IMAGE QUALITY enhancements they will bring to both current and future games!

It just blows me away how some people here just aren't happy unless the next generation card can let them play like Quake 3 at 1000 fps! <or insert old game here and some massive fps here>

 

[CP5670]

The thing is, he is a typical XS guy, so he only cares about 3dmark.. If he were testing a new cpu, he would only care about superPI, sucks but its true (he actually showed the superpi scores of the kentsfield on the g80 thread... -_-)

I think 3dmark became quite unreliable with the 06 version. It's too dependent on the CPU and gets unrealistic boosts from multiple cores, so it's hard to tell how much of the increase is from the C2Q he's using.

Do I need or want 200 fps... No!

I do.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: munky
I dunno, that didnt sway a whole bunch of ppl from the 7900gtx to the x1900xt/x, since those also had better IQ, features, and less AA performance hit. Not to mention how hot and power-hungry the g80 must be. I guess Nv tried so hard on the GX2, that now they're gonna have trouble trumping that card with a single gpu.

Let us be fair here. 7950GX2 is 2 GPUs slapped together. So comparing it to a single GPU card is apples and oranges to begin with.

That said, if the 3DMark results are even close to accurate, 8800GTX does beat 7950GX2, and that is a feat in and of itself.