8800 GT's for under $200
- Thread starter SolublePotash
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Low supply and high demand doesn't make it likely that the 8800GT will be sub $200.
You could try for the Dell deal, which sells MSI 8800GTs for $208 (less with Dell Preferred Account discount) but they're not being shipped and there are large delays on that. There have been lucky shipments from Dell for a very limited amount of people (so far only ONE member in Anandtech posted shipment from Dell as far as we know), so you're going to have to wait long for that price.
Otherwise, your best bet would be going to the local Best Buy and looking for BFG 8800GTs sold at around $240 (can't remember), with 12% coupons, that can be brought down a lot.
You could try for the Dell deal, which sells MSI 8800GTs for $208 (less with Dell Preferred Account discount) but they're not being shipped and there are large delays on that. There have been lucky shipments from Dell for a very limited amount of people (so far only ONE member in Anandtech posted shipment from Dell as far as we know), so you're going to have to wait long for that price.
Otherwise, your best bet would be going to the local Best Buy and looking for BFG 8800GTs sold at around $240 (can't remember), with 12% coupons, that can be brought down a lot.
They will be down to their normal prices in a couple of weeks now that the GTSes are out and the supply has stabilized.
WhipperSnapper
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Given how the retailers love to price gouge, somehow I have a hard time believing that we'll see the 512 MB 8800 GTs going for $200 anytime soon. I suspect that the $210 Dell and Best Buy BFG (after the 12% off coupon) deals are the best we'll see for a while.
When will Newegg carry 8800 GT 512's for around $200? Maybe in mid-February.
When will Newegg carry 8800 GT 512's for around $200? Maybe in mid-February.
Meh. I'm not going to buy before they drop to their true price. Stupid price gouging retailers. I'm not building my system before the mainstream Yorkfields are out anyway.
Thanks for the awesome 0 start rating.
Whats mentioned above is my point - $100, $1000, whatever. Charging over MSRP because of stock is dumb. Greed from vendors, incompetence from manufacturers because of lack of production. (Nvidia and 3rd parties)
Whats mentioned above is my point - $100, $1000, whatever. Charging over MSRP because of stock is dumb. Greed from vendors, incompetence from manufacturers because of lack of production. (Nvidia and 3rd parties)
Welcome to the forums!
And perhaps do a little search with the key words "8800GT price gouging", to discover several threads on the subject in the past month.
And perhaps do a little search with the key words "8800GT price gouging", to discover several threads on the subject in the past month.
Welcome to market forces! It's idealistic, nay, foolish to think that vendors would honor MSRP (Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price) when supply of 8800GTs were low and demand was extraordinarily high.
There might have been greed involved with a level of price gouging involved (first couple days after launch, when there were still some left, prices started to go up) but they've remained up due to lack of supply from Nvidia for 8800GTs.
Again, look towards the Dell deal or the Best Buy deal for the best results, other than that, you may have to go ATI in the 3870 or go for the 256MB 8800GT.
Thanks for the welcomes.
I have read the forums, the lack of suppy of 8800's is discussed in length all over the place. In most markets, the supply/demand/price thing is expected, but this 8800 GT thing suprises me.
I remember when there were the ati 7500's that could be bios unlocked and were going like hot cakes and dried up - hard to find, but the prices were NOT inflated like they are with these 8800 GT's.
Its not exaclty like they are roses on valentines day
I have read the forums, the lack of suppy of 8800's is discussed in length all over the place. In most markets, the supply/demand/price thing is expected, but this 8800 GT thing suprises me.
I remember when there were the ati 7500's that could be bios unlocked and were going like hot cakes and dried up - hard to find, but the prices were NOT inflated like they are with these 8800 GT's.
Its not exaclty like they are roses on valentines day
Originally posted by: SolublePotash
Thanks for the welcomes.
I have read the forums, the lack of suppy of 8800's is discussed in length all over the place. In most markets, the supply/demand/price thing is expected, but this 8800 GT thing suprises me.
I remember when there were the ati 7500's that could be bios unlocked and were going like hot cakes and dried up - hard to find, but the prices were NOT inflated like they are with these 8800 GT's.
Its not exaclty like they are roses on valentines day
I beg to differ!
This card has made my gaming experience absolutely rosey, and yes, it was a love at first sight! :heart:
You might be able to find one at BestBuy for $237.99 with the 12% off coupon, for the final price of ~$208 + tax. Some stores got a new supply last night.
Good luck!
Well maybe after the holidays things will get better. Im frustrated with having to pay more for a video card than a whole complete system to play games decently.
Just remember - only 6 weeks ago you would have to pay in excess of $500 for the kind of performance the 8800GT delivers.
And there are deals out there if you make that extra effort - like the one at BestBuy.
I paid $228 incl. tax for mine - a pretty good deal, below the MSRP.
BTW - there is no such thing as MSRP. The rule of supply and demand applies to all the products, not only the Video Cards.
You can get the 8800GTS today with no shortage issues at all.
But the 8800GT is still in short supply, due to a minimal difference in performance, if any, for about $100 less...
And there are deals out there if you make that extra effort - like the one at BestBuy.
I paid $228 incl. tax for mine - a pretty good deal, below the MSRP.
BTW - there is no such thing as MSRP. The rule of supply and demand applies to all the products, not only the Video Cards.
You can get the 8800GTS today with no shortage issues at all.
But the 8800GT is still in short supply, due to a minimal difference in performance, if any, for about $100 less...
"Just remember - only 6 weeks ago you would have to pay in excess of $500 for the kind of performance the 8800GT delivers."
I know, it ridiculous. For this reason Ive always settled for older generation cards. The release of the 8800GT has me interested in paying a decent ammount of money for a video card for the first time.
Makes me wonder if this release and shortage of supply is a ploy by NVIDIA, that soon they will stop making the 8800GT's but still have people like me drooling for something with good performance.
I ended up making the mistake of going the Dell route, ordered one through my wife's Dell account that she bought her laptop on.
paid 255 for XFX Alpha Dog overclocked edition
ordered on the 4th, says it "might" ship on the 19th
hoping I have it by xmas,
paid 255 for XFX Alpha Dog overclocked edition
ordered on the 4th, says it "might" ship on the 19th
hoping I have it by xmas,
See, the 8800GT, even at the artificially inflated prices, is still a bargain!
That's the paradox of the G92 - the older generation is still more expensive.
The only "old generation" card in the high $200' is a 320MB 8800GTS, and it offers significantly lower performance, with lower amount of VRAM.
I do not think that the shortage is a marketing ploy by NVidia - the cards are just THAT GOOD, even with the prices way above the MSRP's.
taltamir
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Don't worry about it... most my threads get a 0 star rating too... the average user doesn't use the star rating AT ALL... I know I never rate threads... (actually I don't even know HOW to rate a thread.
So those who rate threads are USUALLY just mean trolls trying to drive down threads they deem "irrelevant" in their pretentious little mind... they tend to chime in with a "what exactly is the point of this thread" comment as well, thats how you know who that ONE person who rated you with 0 stars is.
It would have been nicer if a minimum of 5 ratings was required before a rating showed up for a thread. but that is life.
As for the original question. they will drop to real prices in march of 08 when the geforce 9 is released... or a little earlier when the next big thing from AMD is released (if it is faster then the 8800GT that is).
Both nvidia and AMD slashes prices already, two weeks after the 38xx released... but retailers just took it as "more money for us"... Newegg for example is now gouging even the 3850... and the 3870 is also going for 250+$.... instead of its intended 220$.
When worst buy is CHEAPER then buying online you know something is wrong. I am certainly not buying any of this crap for so much above msrp... I can wait for the next generation thank you very much. Their loss too... I bought a GF7 and I am gonna end up waiting for the GF9 instead of buying a GF8 and a GF9... Yea they make more money per card sold, but if they made more cards and a were willing to take a little bit less money per card they would have sold a lot more. they are forgetting that they aren't just competing with other companies, but with their last generation cards. You gotta convince a person that an upgrade is worth their money.
Yup, taltamir, your not buying the 8800GT is "their loss" (the manufacturers' and the retailers' that is, right?).
I bet others think exactly the same.
The empty store shelves and depleted on-line inventories are the proof of just that...
I bet others think exactly the same.
The empty store shelves and depleted on-line inventories are the proof of just that...
taltamir
Lifer
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You completely misunderstood me.
The fact I haven't bought a GT isn't their loss, the fact that GT took so long in coming and had such limited quantities and the resultant price gouge (and that the GTSv1 was so expensive!) resulting in me not buying a geforce 8 part half a year ago (because the GTS and GTX were too expensive and the 8600 was weaker then my GF7 part) and then buying a GF9 AS WELL is their loss...
I could have bought 3 cards in an 18 monthes period, instead I would end up buying two. Higher margins vs higher sales... nVidia saw that ATI was doing so badly that they forgot they also compete with their LAST gen hardware, and they need to provide an incentive for current high end owners to upgrade. They only released the GT when they did to counter the 38xx line from AMD, focusing more on "the enemy" then on the "loyal customer" who was waiting patiently for SOMETHING to buy...
I ended up skipping a generation.. I bought a high end GF7 card for 250. I would have gladly bought a GTS320MB for 250 ... and then again a GF9 based card for 250... instead I will only buy 2, not three cards.
The 8800GT is sold out and price gouged because its the first GOOD offering in about a year. Ideally they would have had enough for many people to buy one at 200$. But since they don't they can sell them for 300 and still sellout of the few units they had. More margin, less profit.
The fact I haven't bought a GT isn't their loss, the fact that GT took so long in coming and had such limited quantities and the resultant price gouge (and that the GTSv1 was so expensive!) resulting in me not buying a geforce 8 part half a year ago (because the GTS and GTX were too expensive and the 8600 was weaker then my GF7 part) and then buying a GF9 AS WELL is their loss...
I could have bought 3 cards in an 18 monthes period, instead I would end up buying two. Higher margins vs higher sales... nVidia saw that ATI was doing so badly that they forgot they also compete with their LAST gen hardware, and they need to provide an incentive for current high end owners to upgrade. They only released the GT when they did to counter the 38xx line from AMD, focusing more on "the enemy" then on the "loyal customer" who was waiting patiently for SOMETHING to buy...
I ended up skipping a generation.. I bought a high end GF7 card for 250. I would have gladly bought a GTS320MB for 250 ... and then again a GF9 based card for 250... instead I will only buy 2, not three cards.
The 8800GT is sold out and price gouged because its the first GOOD offering in about a year. Ideally they would have had enough for many people to buy one at 200$. But since they don't they can sell them for 300 and still sellout of the few units they had. More margin, less profit.
It's the first GOOD and affordable offerning in about a year, even at inflated prices.
I wouldn't buy anything below 512MB of VRAM for more than $250.
8800GT allowed me to do it for $268 initially, then the BB price match reduced it to $228.
I wouldn't buy anything below 512MB of VRAM for more than $250.
8800GT allowed me to do it for $268 initially, then the BB price match reduced it to $228.
taltamir
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which would have been GREAT 6 monthes ago... but right now? its 2 and a half months away from the geforce9... too little too late.
I realise it was released a month ago, but at that point prices spiked... it would have been a better buy one month ago for 220$... now at 270-300$ with the GF9 and NBT (next big thing) from AMD, not so much.
I realise it was released a month ago, but at that point prices spiked... it would have been a better buy one month ago for 220$... now at 270-300$ with the GF9 and NBT (next big thing) from AMD, not so much.
Waiting is always the best solution... if you can exercise patience!
I pulled the trigger on the 8800GT, because I was doubling my gaming performance, as compared to 7950GT.
In doing so, I went to Best Buy, so if I wasn't happy, I could always take it back for a full refund.
But... I was happy!
I pulled the trigger on the 8800GT, because I was doubling my gaming performance, as compared to 7950GT.
In doing so, I went to Best Buy, so if I wasn't happy, I could always take it back for a full refund.
But... I was happy!
taltamir
Lifer
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yes but will you buy a GF9 to replace it in two and a half monthes?
They should have had you upgrade your 7950GT to a 8800GTS half a year ago. And then to a GF9 in a few monthes... now you are gonna buy less cards, but for a little more money each.
I understand YOU are happy, but if I was an exec in nvidia I would be unhappy to hear people are skipping generations of our products because we are so set in competing with the enemy, that we forgot to compete with our last generation of products. I would have tried to push it so people are upgrading every 8-9 monthes or so... I think the figure is realistic given the right performance and cost incentives...
In 2006 and 2007 nvidia was making a 200% margin on their products (that is, they are selling for three times the cost of production... they then use that "gross profit" to pay for administrative costs, advertisements, and RnD investment)...
So selling for 20% less but three parts per three cycles rather then 2 per three (aka, 50% more cards) sounds downright delicious... And I think they could have... AND it would have doubled up as a way to drive AMD into the ground...
They should have had you upgrade your 7950GT to a 8800GTS half a year ago. And then to a GF9 in a few monthes... now you are gonna buy less cards, but for a little more money each.
I understand YOU are happy, but if I was an exec in nvidia I would be unhappy to hear people are skipping generations of our products because we are so set in competing with the enemy, that we forgot to compete with our last generation of products. I would have tried to push it so people are upgrading every 8-9 monthes or so... I think the figure is realistic given the right performance and cost incentives...
In 2006 and 2007 nvidia was making a 200% margin on their products (that is, they are selling for three times the cost of production... they then use that "gross profit" to pay for administrative costs, advertisements, and RnD investment)...
So selling for 20% less but three parts per three cycles rather then 2 per three (aka, 50% more cards) sounds downright delicious... And I think they could have... AND it would have doubled up as a way to drive AMD into the ground...
No, I will not buy a Video Card until I can double the performance again.
In December 2006, exactly 1 year ago, I bought the eVGA 7950GT SC for ~$270, with my ASUS 650i MB.
The 1 generation of 8800's was out at that time, but the GTS cost ~$450, and I read the horror stories about the drivers.
I decided to get the "tried, tested and true" 7000 series VC, so I did not have to guess in case of problems - is it the brand new chipset 650i, or the brand new GPU...?
7950 served me relatively well for about a year, and it is still working great in my wife's machine with 775Dual-VSTA and E6600.
Sooo... no upgrade/update for me in February - I will get ready for 20,000 3DMarks, or 100 FPS in Crysis in December 2008 LOL.
BTW, I can finally max out all the settings in Far Cry, my all-time favourite, about 3 years after its release...
In December 2006, exactly 1 year ago, I bought the eVGA 7950GT SC for ~$270, with my ASUS 650i MB.
The 1 generation of 8800's was out at that time, but the GTS cost ~$450, and I read the horror stories about the drivers.
I decided to get the "tried, tested and true" 7000 series VC, so I did not have to guess in case of problems - is it the brand new chipset 650i, or the brand new GPU...?
7950 served me relatively well for about a year, and it is still working great in my wife's machine with 775Dual-VSTA and E6600.
Sooo... no upgrade/update for me in February - I will get ready for 20,000 3DMarks, or 100 FPS in Crysis in December 2008 LOL.
BTW, I can finally max out all the settings in Far Cry, my all-time favourite, about 3 years after its release...
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