8600GTS Refresh?

[Nightmare225]

It can't be trusted 100%, but if this is right, this thing will be released in june on Compotex

http://www.chilehardware.com/foro/exclusivo-geforce-8600gts-t79568.html?t=79568

Discuss!

 

[PingSpike]

Seems kind of soon doesn't it?

 

[Munky]

Even if that rumor is true, the 256-bit bus will do just about nothing for the 8600gts to alleviate it's performance deficit. IMO, that card's main bottleneck is the weak shader throughput.

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: munky
Even if that rumor is true, the 256-bit bus will do just about nothing for the 8600gts to alleviate it's performance deficit. IMO, that card's main bottleneck is the weak shader throughput.

i would say the main problem right now is the memory bandwidth at higher resolutions with AA.

it probably would be nice if it had say 48 shaders, but for the range it is in the 32 shaders especially on the gts seems reasonable.

 

[aka1nas]

Honestly, the card needs more shader power AND a bit more memory bandwith to handle Dx10 games. The rumored 64 shader card(8800GT) with a 256-bit bus would have been nice.

 

[Shamrock]

256 bus AND 512MB ram I think they realized the low performance after it was released, no one wants it. So, a refresh to help a little.

translated text:

In June I become information to us on a future revision from the GeForce 8600GTS being sent during the first week of June. This new revision would have a controller of memory able to handle these with a bandwidth of 256-bit. This in comparison to the present model of 128-bit would duplicate effective bandwidth between graphical processor and the memory attack to same operating frequency. The new model of GeForce 8600GTS civil employee to the same frequency of nucleus and memories, nevertheless the reference model in addition would have 512MB of memory, thus duplicating not only bandwidth to memories but also the capacity of storage. It is to hope that one is a launching with noise during Computex - the fair of computer science of Taipei - since the dates ironically agree.

 

[hans007]

i'd assume that if this new 8600 saw the light of the day, there would have to be a new 8900 or something card.

the 8800 series is a pretty big die size, so the 8800gts 320mb would probably just stop being made, and newer 80nm or 65nm devices would have to replace them.

if this new 8600 had 512mb ram and 256bit bus, it would at least in many consumers eyes overlap too much with 8800gts 320mb.

 

[BernardP]

Not to say that such a new card is impossible, but that it would not be a refresh. It would be a completely different card because of the 256-bit memory controller. It is a major change of chip architecture. It doesn't seem likely NVidia would use a 8600 moniker for such a card (8650? 8700?)

The other possiblity is that the info is wrong. Maybe the new card will have 512 MB of memory, but still only with 128-bit memory interface.

We will know soon: "la primera semana de junio" is one month from now.

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: BernardP
Not to say that such a new card is impossible, but that it would not be a refresh. It would be a completely different card because of the 256-bit memory controller. It is a major change of chip architecture. It doesn't seem likely NVidia would use a 8600 moniker for such a card (8650? 8700?)

The other possiblity is that the info is wrong. Maybe the new card will have 512 MB of memory, but still only with 128-bit memory interface.

We will know soon: "la primera semana de junio" is one month from now.

i would bet on 8700 , and that the 8800 would go away foro the 8900.


seems similar to the 5000 series. the 5600 was horrible, and so was the 5600 ultra, so they came out with the much better (though still not as good as ATIs 9500 offering at the time) 5700

 

[MadBoris]

Well, wherever nvidia is getting beat, Value, midrange, high, Uber they will refresh a product to compete.
It mainly depends on ATI beating nvidia on certain levels with r600 release.

Gotta love competition.

What we really need is some people to figure out ways to unlock these cards and drop some new firmware in them.