8500LE 64MB won't work in older agp slot

TechBoyJK

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my roommate has an older p3 500 with an agp slot (emachines) I tried putting my old 8500LE in and it wouldnt boot the machine, just a black screen. I tried everything, uninstalling the old card first, etc. Could it be possible that the AGP slot is an older version and simply doesn't support the 8500LE, maybe for voltage reasons?
 

eLiu

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I thought the various AGP standards are all backwards compatible..?

Anyhow, did you test the 8500LE in a newer machine?
 

TechBoyJK

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nope, i guess it could be possible that it got screwed up in the time I took it out of my machine and put it in the static bag and back in the box. I hope not, but possible. The only other machine in the house is my rig, and i dont feel like fussing around with it.
 

eLiu

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Well if you don't want to try that, then see if you can borrow an ancient AGP card (like say a TNT) to find out if that AGP slot is functional or not.

It should all be backwards compatible--at least that's what I was told in a thread I opened a few months ago.
 

apoppin

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not all older MBs support the correct voltage for the 8500. ;)

My soyo tisu didn't (it's only about 3 years old) :(

(if you have to "force" it into the slot - dont!) ;)
it'll fry the card and maybe the mb
 

Ryoga

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Generally speaking, AGP slots are keyed to only accept AGP adapters for that particular slot configuration. It's not possible to plug in a wrong voltage adapter into a wrong voltage slot (unless emachines didn't key their slot).

http://www.ati.com/support/faq/agpchart.html

Given my experiences with eMachines, I strongly suspect your PSU cannot power everything. Do the fans spin? Do the HDD spin up?
 

TechBoyJK

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ok,

I checked the PSU and it was definately a problem. I tried a different PSU, and even though it obviously was powering everything up this time, it still didnt' boot. So I tried the card in my machine and it worked. So its either that the card fits the slot but it still isn't the correct voltage or????
 

Arcanedeath

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The 8500LE is an AGP 4x card I'm willing to bet the Emachines has a 1x or 2x only slot and doesn't support the correct electrical specs to run your Agp 4X card, If I recall the 8500LE was a 1.5V only card and most older AGP slots were 3.3V only. Anyways g'luck w/ this and hope this info helps... :)