850 EVO, yes or no?

sakete

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With the whole 840 EVO debacle, I'm a bit wary about investing money into an 850 EVO drive.

I want to buy a 500GB SSD to be my main system drive. I'd like to get the SanDisk Extreme Pro 480GB, but the 850 EVOs get good reviews in terms of performance and are certainly better value. But I don't want to run into any weird hiccups down the road such as happened to the 840EVO. And also, it uses TLC nand, not MLC. Reliability is key, followed by speed.

Any thoughts?
 

meloz

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My 250 GB 850 EVO has given me no cause for alarm.

You must keep in mind 840 EVO and 850 EVO are very different drives. The newer generation uses v-nand which does not have the problem of 840.
 

R0H1T

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With the whole 840 EVO debacle, I'm a bit wary about investing money into an 850 EVO drive.

I want to buy a 500GB SSD to be my main system drive. I'd like to get the SanDisk Extreme Pro 480GB, but the 850 EVOs get good reviews in terms of performance and are certainly better value. But I don't want to run into any weird hiccups down the road such as happened to the 840EVO. And also, it uses TLC nand, not MLC. Reliability is key, followed by speed.

Any thoughts?
You pay slightly more for the Extreme Pro but it has longer warranty & better support. If you want some (extra) peace of mind then the Extreme Pro is the probably the best drive to be had, I also personally think that Sandisk has better overall support than Samsung & offers true international warranty plus the replacement drives they ship are brand new AFAIK, not refurbs like many other SSD makers give you.
 

gpse

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I replaced a 128GB Samsung 840 PRO with a 250GB Samsung 850 EVO, I have no complaints!
 

corkyg

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Just installed and using a 850 EVO 500GB for data in my laptop. No problems at all. Am thinking of buying another as backup.
 

Shmee

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850 Evo seems fine to me.
 

ShintaiDK

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I dont have any confidence in EVO TLC products. And Samsung seems to have a lot of problems lately. I personally prefer Crucial.
 

R0H1T

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I have a 840 EVO and 830 (non-pro), I'm never buying Samsung SSDs again after the EVO debacle
There was no 830 pro IIRC & it was the premier SSD of its time & still is the best seller on ebay, mainly used ones though. I guess everyone forgets the Intel firmware botch up or Kingston's bait & switch et al, this only when the EVO is up for debate :rolleyes:
 

OrionMaster

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did Intel pretend there was no issue for a long time when there was? Because Samsung is doing that right now and im not talking about the 840 EVO
 

R0H1T

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did Intel pretend there was no issue for a long time when there was? Because Samsung is doing that right now and im not talking about the 840 EVO
They acknowledged the bug what 3~4 weeks after it was discovered, btw are you talking about the regular 840?

The action & reaction (to every new bug) by Samsung is not what you'd expect from such a reputed brand but it's par for course, as is the case with virtually every other SSD maker out there just that Samsung is world's largest NAND maker & as such are facing more headwinds than they can handle all at once.

But you're right they should acknowledge whatever bugs are present in the drives, finding a solution to them however is a lot more complicated as was the case with their 1x nm TLC drives.
 

Charlie98

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I guess everyone forgets the Intel firmware botch up or Kingston's bait & switch et al, this only when the EVO is up for debate :rolleyes:

Part of the distaste is how Samsung is handling it, and how they handle RMA drives in general... I have personal experience with that and my 840Pro. I probably wouldn't buy another Samsung SSD because of it, instead relying on Intel and Crucial.
 

R0H1T

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Part of the distaste is how Samsung is handling it, and how they handle RMA drives in general... I have personal experience with that and my 840Pro. I probably wouldn't buy another Samsung SSD because of it, instead relying on Intel and Crucial.
Not having been at the receiving end of their SSD travails I can't say either way but yes in general I do stay away from brands that have failed my expectations.
 

Berryracer

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Not having been at the receiving end of their SSD travails I can't say either way but yes in general I do stay away from brands that have failed my expectations.
Ditto bro, I lost all trust in Samsung, for me it's SanDisk as a first choice and maybe Crucial or OCZ as a second choice.
 

Puffnstuff

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Samsung and their handling of my 840 pro failure, as in rma nightmare, sent me with open arms to intel.
 

bradley

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NAND is basically glorified flash. I would only trust TLC to my flash drive with meaningless data. I decided to wait for Intel and Micron's 3D NAND and hold tight. It will be far superior to Samsung's process in many ways.
 

sakete

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I decided to go for the SanDisk extreme pro 480gb. I'm sure I'll be content with that drive.
 

Blain

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I decided to go for the SanDisk extreme pro 480gb.
I'm sure I'll be content with that drive.
How can you predict that?
If something does go wrong with it, will you promise not to post any threads about the problem?
 

SeanFL

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it's interesting that the 850 EVO 250G was around $99, it's been sitting near $117 on amazon for the past few weeks. Supply shortage?
 

sakete

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How can you predict that?
If something does go wrong with it, will you promise not to post any threads about the problem?

Well I can't predict it, but so far Samsung has at least a somewhat sketchy track record with SSDs, also when it comes to claiming warranty. I've never had any problems with other SanDisk products in the past so am hopeful that past experience will continue to the future. And that 10 year warranty is hard to beat!
 

sakete

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In 5 years, storage technology should have advanced to the point where those extra 5 years of warranty won't matter.

Well that's great for those who need storage five years from now, but kind of irrelevant for those who are looking for storage right now don't you think?