8 Real Spies And Actual Bad Guys Who Got Shorter Sentences Than Bradley Manning

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The Huffington Post | By Nick Wing
Posted: 08/21/2013 3:25 pm EDT | Updated: 08/21/2013 8:20 pm EDT

Bradley Manning received a 35-year prison sentence on Wednesday, punishment for leaking troves of classified intelligence to the website WikiLeaks in 2010. The former Army private first class faced a maximum of 90 years in prison, and the prosecution was pushing aggressively for at least 60 years, meaning the final outcome was less harsh than it could have been.

But supporters of Manning -- who has maintained that his actions were driven by his desire to expose brutality and wrongdoing being carried out by America's military and diplomatic corps -- argued that he deserves to be pardoned for his part in the revelations. Anti-war activists and civil libertarians have also commended Manning for his part in the leaks, saying that he helped accelerate the drawing down of U.S. military engagements in Iraq and Afghanistan and provided important fodder for the Arab revolutions in 2010 and 2011.

Was the judge's sentence overly harsh? Does Manning deserve to be jailed at all? Below, take a look at how his 35-year sentence stacks up to those handed out to other criminals, many of whose crimes were arguably more severe than Manning's.

William Colton Millay, 16 years for attempting to sell secrets to a Russian spy

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Millay pleaded guilty earlier this year to attempted espionage and other counts, after selling secrets to an FBI undercover agent whom he believed was a Russian spy. The U.S. Army policeman had faced a maximum sentence of confinement for up to life without the possibility of parole.

David Henry Barnett, 18 years for selling classified documents to Soviet officials

Over a period of years during the 1970s, Barnett, a former CIA agent, revealed the identities of some 30 CIA officers and other classified information to the KGB in exchange for money. As part of his partnership with the Soviets, Barnett tried, but failed, to get a position on Capitol Hill. He would later be rehired by the CIA, before finally being outed as a spy. Barnett pleaded guilty to espionage charges in 1980, and served 10 years before being paroled in 1990.

Harold James Nicholson, 23 years for providing highly classified information to Russia

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The highest ranking CIA official ever convicted of spying for a foreign power, Nicholson was apprehended in 1996 at a Washington-area airport with rolls of film bearing images of Top Secret documents. He was subsequently charged with espionage and accused of having taken up a two-and-a-half year operation to hack into agency computers and provide the Russians with every secret he could steal. He was ultimately convicted of espionage, and later sentenced to additional years in prison after pleading guilty to betraying his country a second time.

Ana Belen Montes, 25 years for passing classified information to Cuba's government

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For 17 years, Montes, an analyst for the Defense Intelligence Agency, carried out a dynamic spy operation for Cuba. She was caught in 2001, and later plead guilty to espionage.

Earl Edwin Pitts, 27 years for giving classified information to Russian intelligence services

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During the late '80s and early '90s, Pitts, then an FBI special agent, spied for Russia, providing agents with Top Secret documents and information about key bureau assets. Pitts was alleged to have received $224,000 in payments for the information he gave between 1987 and 1992. He was caught in 1996, and pleaded guilty to two counts of espionage in 1997.

Michael Peri, 30 years for passing defense secrets to communist East Germany

As the Cold War was winding down in 1989, Peri, then a U.S. Army specialist, disappeared from his Germany-based regiment with a portable computer thought be filled with sensitive information. He was believed to have defected, but returned less than two weeks later and was arrested. He would eventually plead guilty to espionage.

Clayton Lonetree, 30 years for delivering classified information from American embassies to Soviet agents

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Lonetree confessed in 1987 to selling U.S. embassy blueprints and the names and identities of undercover intelligence agents to the Soviet Union. Lonetree's initial 30-year sentence was eventually reduced, and he was finally released in 1996 after serving nine years.

Albert Sombolay, 34 years for giving a Jordanian intelligence agent key information about the U.S. military buildup ahead of the first Gulf War

Sombolay, a specialist 4th class with the Army artillery, ultimately pleaded guilty to charges of espionage and contacting the enemy. He was reportedly paid "about $1,300 for his activities," and had attempted to get in touch with Iraqi intelligence officials as well. Somobolay ultimately served 12 years of his sentence.

Link to Huffington Post Article

I personally think Bradley Manning is a hero for coming out and letting the American people know of the gross violations and law breaking that our own Government is doing. I find it dispicable the way he has been treated and these charges are so overkill and way overblown. This sends a clear message to Journalists as well, especially in light of the detainment of the Journalists protege in the UK. We have now stepped into a Facist begining.
 

Zargon

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yeah its pretty sad.

his sentence is way overblown, and shows how this administration treats us
 

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He should have gotten more time. The amount of information he compromised is overwhelming. The damage he did to his country may never be known.

The damage he did to our relationship with other governments may be irreparable.

Is 35 years enough to ensure that justice is served? No
 

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He should have gotten more time. The amount of information he compromised is overwhelming. The damage he did to his country may never be known.

The damage he did to our relationship with other governments may be irreparable.

Is 35 years enough to ensure that vengeance is served? No

Fixed, based on the rest of your post.

Look in the mirror.
 

piasabird

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Manning did this during a time of War so he should have been hung or executed by a firing squad.
 
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I'm somewhat indifferent as to the length of his sentence and I find the conditions of his pre-sentencing confinement appalling.

That being said, that guy should be in jail for a long, long time. He was a petulant, irresponsible jackass who leaked secrets with no whistleblowing value whatsoever. The chopper video? Glad he leaked it. Just about everything else? What was he thinking?
 

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Manning did this during a time of War so he should have been hung or executed by a firing squad.
I hate calling for blood but I think you might be right. He did this during war time death should have been the only sentence.
 

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He should have gotten more time. The amount of information he compromised is overwhelming. The damage he did to his country may never be known.

The damage he did to our relationship with other governments may be irreparable.

Is 35 years enough to ensure that justice is served? No


the gov was treating allies like shit and got caught, and of course it isnt the gov's fault

its too bad the airstrike video was destroyed


motives matter when it comes to crime, and the motives arent exactly bad, let alone self fulfilling or for profit like other spies.

outing misdeeds of the gov out of apathy is way better than selling secrets to direct enemies for personal profit. thats why I think a shorter sentence was warrented
 

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What What?

Chelsea in the butt.

Ok that whole Chelsea thing in the news has completely thrown me off. Is he daft? Does he really think in a military prison that they are going to give him some sort of sex change operation, and the hormone medications to boot??

Now I do think that solitary confinement must have really messed him up in the head for thinking that.
 

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Just being able to access files doesn't mean that you have permission to read them. That alone is punishable. Spreading them, during time of war, definitely fine with the book being thrown at him.
 

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Ok that whole Chelsea thing in the news has completely thrown me off. Is he daft? Does he really think in a military prison that they are going to give him some sort of sex change operation, and the hormone medications to boot??

Now I do think that solitary confinement must have really messed him up in the head for thinking that.

Or it is a serious ploy to get him out of his worst case and generate sympathy.
 

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Also a spy has information, they can lessen their charges by squealing.

A dumbass isn't going to tell you anything new, he will just reinforce the urgent need to weed out dumbasses before giving them access to sensitive information.
 

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Manning did this during a time of War so he should have been hung or executed by a firing squad.
The US isn't in a state of war, nor has it been since the 40s (or at least the vietnam era), so that would have been difficult to justify without the US gov't totally looking like the power-tripping totalitarian fascists they are.
 

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The US isn't in a state of war, nor has it been since the 40s (or at least the vietnam era), so that would have been difficult to justify without the US gov't totally looking like the power-tripping totalitarian fascists they are.

Oh, all those serviceman and civilians that are dead were just playing because it wasn't a declared war by Congress. Also, I'm sure the enemy will just discard any information that comes their way for the same reasons.

Glad that's all cleared up.....o_O
 

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If his bid to become Chelsea had been successful, he would have done his time at the Naval Consolidated Brig in San Diego. Female prisoners are not kept at Leavenworth.
 

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Enlisting in the military (of one's own free will) is much different than working at Applebees. This is a little fact that many civilians fail to understand. One takes an oath to defend their country, not betray it. It's a duty not just a job.

Being trained as part of the intel community he knew full well the consequences of his actions and the danger it posed to his fellow serviceman. He's gotten all the attention he wanted and more.

He didn't get enough time to serve and in the midst of the politically correct age he most certainly got off a lot easier than he should have. Throw in the transgender shit at the end for the added effect of attempting to gain sympathy.

Even if he is actually transgender he lied to the Army before he even stepped foot into the recruiters office knowing he wasn't eligible. He's consistently been a deceitful person and in practice a traitor; especially during a time of war.

How about fuck him......he's no hero to be sure.
 
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I personally think Bradley Manning is a hero for coming out and letting the American people know of the gross violations and law breaking that our own Government is doing. I find it dispicable the way he has been treated and these charges are so overkill and way overblown. This sends a clear message to Journalists as well, especially in light of the detainment of the Journalists protege in the UK. We have now stepped into a Facist begining.

What are you referring to?

I'm unaware of anything worthwhile that Manning leaked, unlike Snowden.

I've asked numerous times but so far no Manning supporter has been able to list anything.

All I've ever seen was stuff that was embarrassing to our govt. E.g., diplomats insulting each other etc.

As to his length of his sentence, he was found guilty or plead to 27 separate charges. If he had more charges than those in the cases you cite it may explain why his sentence is longer.

Fern
 

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Enlisting in the military (of one's own free will) is much different than working at Applebees. This is a little fact that many civilians fail to understand. One takes an oath to defend their country, not betray it. It's a duty not just a job.

Being trained as part of the intel community he knew full well the consequences of his actions and the danger it posed to his fellow serviceman. He's gotten all the attention he wanted and more.

He didn't get enough time to serve and in the midst of the politically correct age he most certainly got off a lot easier than he should have. Throw in the transgender shit at the end for the added effect of attempting to gain sympathy.

Even if he is actually transgender he lied to the Army before he even stepped foot into the recruiters office knowing he wasn't eligible. He's consistently been a deceitful person and in practice a traitor; especially during a time of war.

How about fuck him......he's no hero to be sure.

Word.