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Anyone know if they will ever make the smaller HardDrives with the 8mb cache like 40 gig etc?
 

chizow

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Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Anyone know if they will ever make the smaller HardDrives with the 8mb cache like 40 gig etc?
I believe WD does already. Just look for 400JB SEs. I've never seen a price that would justify getting one however, as I've never seen them lower than the $1/GB barrier. On the other hand, you could pick up an 80GB 8MB SE for $80 or less if you have a large B&M near you.

If you're looking Maxtor, I believe their smallest 8MB is 80GB.

Chiz
 

WaTaGuMp

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Originally posted by: chizow
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Anyone know if they will ever make the smaller HardDrives with the 8mb cache like 40 gig etc?
I believe WD does already. Just look for 400JB SEs. I've never seen a price that would justify getting one however, as I've never seen them lower than the $1/GB barrier. On the other hand, you could pick up an 80GB 8MB SE for $80 or less if you have a large B&M near you.

If you're looking Maxtor, I believe their smallest 8MB is 80GB.

Chiz

Thx Chiz the thing is I have 2 40 gig right now my friend got a new HD last night 120 gig for like 100 bucks damn him. I doubt I will ever use the amount of space I have but I sure like the speed the 8mb cache delivers. He also got a Plextor 48x24x48 CDRW and wow he was loading things fast with the new install of XP, he had Win2k Pro like I do till last night.
 

chizow

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Hehe never buy HDDs retail or even e-tail unless you absolutely have to or you don't have any B&Ms near you. Just hang out in Hot Deals for a week or two and see what turns up. I see 80-120GB 8MB HDDs going for $80 or less all the time (I got 3 myself for less than $1/GB).

I'm not sure why the 40GB HDDs are holding you back; is it because you don't think you'll need more than 120GB of storage? You can always buy a 120GB drive, transfer your data to it, and then sell the other two on FS/FT. They'll probably go for @ the $1/GB range as many people look for smaller drives for RAID arrays and what not, but like yourself, don't want to pay full retail. The sales and deals you find on larger drives rarely trickle down to smaller drives, as mfg'ing larger drivers carries a much cheaper incremental cost to produce, but sell retail for much more. Mail-In and Instant Rebates are much more substantial and frequent on these larger drives, throw in something like a Pricematch and/or coupon at a place like Staples, and you end up getting some dirt-cheap storage. :D

Also, you'd be surprised at how much more you can do when you have the storage space. I thought I would never be able to fill up 2 x 120GB in RAID 0 with 120GB as a backup, but I'm sure as hell trying my best. (about 100GB on the array, 60GB in data/backups on the backup drive). ;)

Chiz
 

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My 40 gig was only 45 bucks after rebates, and the reason I wont use all my space is cause I am a gamer and when I get bored with games they go bye bye so I get space back if I need it.
 

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Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
My 40 gig was only 45 bucks after rebates, and the reason I wont use all my space is cause I am a gamer and when I get bored with games they go bye bye so I get space back if I need it.
I used to do that b/c I needed the HDD space, but with so much room, there's no need. I still keep a steady suite of games on my HDD now even if I don't play them (benchmarking mostly). For gamers, one of the nicest features of having lots of storage is being able to make images to launch a game from. You'll never have to swap your discs again; just load them on to a virtual drive and you're off. More storage enables you to do that w/out worrying about running out of storage. Plus larger disc platters are generally faster (and cheaper per GB), so its a double-bonus.

Chiz
 

WaTaGuMp

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I see the only games I have installed are Tiger Woods 2003 and the game I moderate in I GET REALLY BORED I guess. Might be getting Planetside next I will see thats a big game, good thing is have over 60 gigs of space left out of my 80. :D
 

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Originally posted by: chizow
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
My 40 gig was only 45 bucks after rebates, and the reason I wont use all my space is cause I am a gamer and when I get bored with games they go bye bye so I get space back if I need it.
I used to do that b/c I needed the HDD space, but with so much room, there's no need. I still keep a steady suite of games on my HDD now even if I don't play them (benchmarking mostly). For gamers, one of the nicest features of having lots of storage is being able to make images to launch a game from. You'll never have to swap your discs again; just load them on to a virtual drive and you're off. More storage enables you to do that w/out worrying about running out of storage. Plus larger disc platters are generally faster (and cheaper per GB), so its a double-bonus.

Chiz


I've heard of this (using virtual drives) but never tried it.... is it reasonably easy, reliable?

tell me how, tell me how :D

-Sid
 

chizow

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Originally posted by: Insidious

I've heard of this (using virtual drives) but never tried it.... is it reasonably easy, reliable?

tell me how, tell me how :D

-Sid
Yep, its easy and 100% reliable. Get Clone CD. You can try it and then register for like $30 if you keep it. You can either use the virtual drive bundled with it, but I prefer Daemon Tools (google). CloneCD writes a bit-by-bit image of your discs and stores them in a file/directory of your choice. Keep the Virtual drive manager in your sys tray and mount/unmount the game you want to play. I create a shortcut to my virtual drives on my desktop, and the game icons show up when you mount them. Its great, until they come out with optical disc jukeboxes, its the way to go, and its a lot faster than waiting for a cd-rom to spin-up. Now that more and more games come in cheap paper sleeving, its much more convenient than digging through slim cd cases looking for a particular game or yanking them out of their sleeves.

Chiz
 

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Daemon Tools is better because it re-mounts images when you reboot. They need to Add that feature to CloneCD in a BAD way.

Insidious - Virtual CD drives is the ONLY way to go! I mount my Virtual drives over a LAN connection (Images are stored on the server) and it's WAY faster than a CD could ever be. It's that CD spin up that really drove me banana's.

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chizow

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Originally posted by: Insidious
Thanks guys... yer the best!

(copy protections a problem on games?)

-Sid

Its a bit-by-bit image. <hint>

Anyways, valid cd keys are still necessary. I also use it to image copies of my install/driver cds. Its a great mechanism for constant upgraders/tweakers. You can be up and running after an OS reformat much faster since you're installing off a HDD image rather than disc-swapping and waiting for spin-ups/installations. I've got an entire directory with my install order by disc. Also, its great for those drivers that you are constantly removing/reinstalling b/c of problems. It takes a little bit of time to set-up, but its a helluva lot better than waiting when you're trying to get back up and running b/c you reformatted.

Chiz
 

Insidious

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OK, here's the scoop:

First I tried the virtual drive with BF1942 Road to Rome. It worked flawlessly! and you are right, this IS the way to run games. (I have plenty of HD)

Second, I tried with Nascar Racing 2002. This time, it behaved exactly the same as the time I tried to use CloneCD to create a back-up CD. (house full of
teenie-boppers who are ever-so-careful with my stuff). So, I believe I have run into copy protection issues.

Are there any settings in CloneCD I need to be aware of? Maybe that was the problem. I did the image with defaults, ('game CD')

Anyway, I would be the first to flag any posts concering piracy in any form, and I hope all will understand this is NOT my goal here. If anyone feels these
questions are over the line..... please PM me and I will edit (erase) them immediately.

-Sid
 

Insidious

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YAHOOOOOOOO!

Daemon-Tools can play it on it's VD no problem (NR2002) and it's not time limited. (freeware for personal use)

Thank you, Thank you, Thank YOU :D :beer:

-Sid