7850 or 560 Ti - 448?

[danielhep]

Okay, so I have a few choices for the GPU for my computer. I play a lot of Minecraft, in fact, that's really the game I'll play the most, but I'm getting an overkill GPU for other games like Skyrim, which I'll play in the future. I would like to overclock the GPU, and I know some of these will end up better than others after overclocking them.

I have around $270 to spend on a GPU, but I can go to $300.
Here's my choices:

• AMD 7850
• nVidia 560 Ti
• nVidia 560 Ti - 448
• nVidia 570 <- On sale.

I don't know much about AMD, which makes me want to stay away from them, but I'll get it if I know for sure it's better. I also like to use Linux, which is another reason for me to stay away, but again, if it's that much better, I'll do it. I know the 560 Ti 448 is better than all of them, but I've heard that the 7850 is better when overclocked.

So which should I get?

Thanks.

 

[FalseChristian]

The Radeon HD 7850 is faster than the GTX 560 Ti and supports DirectX 11.1.

 

[danielhep]

The Radeon HD 7850 is faster than the GTX 560 Ti and supports DirectX 11.1.

But how does it compete with the 570 or 560 Ti 448?

 

[Stuka87]

The 7850 is equal to the 570 in some games, slower in others. The 560-448 nearly as fast as a 570, so its basically on par with a stock 7850. OC the 7850, and you are looking at more speed. No clue how well the 560-448's OC.

 

[danielhep]

The 7850 is equal to the 570 in some games, slower in others. The 560-448 nearly as fast as a 570, so its basically on par with a stock 7850. OC the 7850, and you are looking at more speed. No clue how well the 560-448's OC.

Will the 570 fit in an NZXT Phantom 410? (the smaller one)
Here's the one I've been looking at:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...32-105981611-2

 

[Snowshredder102]

The 7850 is equal to the 570 in some games, slower in others. The 560-448 nearly as fast as a 570, so its basically on par with a stock 7850. OC the 7850, and you are looking at more speed. No clue how well the 560-448's OC.

I've read some articles that claim the 560's Ti 448 OC potential can surpass a 570 that is overclocked due to various reasons that I forgot. Not sure how true that is, but to be honest a 7850 would probably be ideal due to having almost double the VRAM.

 

[danielhep]

I've read some articles that claim the 560's Ti 448 OC potential can surpass a 570 that is overclocked due to various reasons that I forgot. Not sure how true that is, but to be honest a 7850 would probably be ideal due to having almost double the VRAM.

I have two monitors, and both run fine off my laptop's 1gb vram. I don't think I'll have issues.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

Once overclocked a 7850 comes close to a gtx 580

 

[BallaTheFeared]

AMD has the better power draw in this area, the 7850 is great in that spec.

Performance seems to be a wash from what I've been hearing, a 448 will overclock past 580 performance typically without a sweat.

vram is important in Skyrim though, 2GB is better than 1.28GB, but nvidia has a ace up their sleeve there, it's called Ambient Occlusion.

I guess I'd call it like this

Power: 7850 wins
Noise: wash
Performance: wash
Price/Perf: 448
Drivers: 448 (AO in Skyrim)
Vram: 7850 (texture mods in Skyrim)
Multi-gpu Supprt: 448
GPGPU: 448 (programs like CS5)
Bitmining: 7850

Weight it as you see fit.


570 is going to be 5% faster than the 448 or so per clock, everything else is the same. Overclocking the 570 vs 448 is pretty much a wash unless you're looking at non reference 570s.

 

[danielhep]

AMD has the better power draw in this area, the 7850 is great in that spec.

Performance seems to be a wash from what I've been hearing, a 448 will overclock past 580 performance typically without a sweat.

vram is important in Skyrim though, 2GB is better than 1.28GB, but nvidia has a ace up their sleeve there, it's called Ambient Occlusion.

I guess I'd call it like this

Power: 7850 wins
Noise: wash
Performance: wash
Price/Perf: 448
Drivers: 448 (AO in Skyrim)
Vram: 7850 (texture mods in Skyrim)
Multi-gpu Supprt: 448
GPGPU: 448 (programs like CS5)
Bitmining: 7850

Weight it as you see fit.


570 is going to be 5% faster than the 448 or so per clock, everything else is the same. Overclocking the 570 vs 448 is pretty much a wash unless you're looking at non reference 570s.

I think I'll get the 570. I can get it for $240 from Galaxy. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...32-105981611-2
And I also have a discount coupon.

 

[Leyawiin]

Once overclocked a 7850 comes close to a gtx 580

So does a GTX 560 Ti 448.

 

[danielhep]

Guys, I think I'll get the GTX 570 for $150. Sounds good to me.

 

[Leyawiin]

Guys, I think I'll get the GTX 570 for $150. Sounds good to me.

Hell yes! Care to share how its so cheap?

 

[danielhep]

Hell yes! Care to share how its so cheap?

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...32-105981611-2

Use the coupon code VDH57775 at checkout.

 

[michael7777]

Guys, I think I'll get the GTX 570 for $150. Sounds good to me.

where... from heaven?

 

[LgFriess]

Guys, I think I'll get the GTX 570 for $150. Sounds good to me.

Where?!! I'll be ordering today if that deal exists!

 

[bigsnyder]

Got a 7850, just upgraded from 2x crossfired HD4850s. Noticeable difference.

 

[Stuka87]

Where did you find a 570 for $150?! Thats a crazy good deal.

 

[newdave]

where to find this deal 570 @ $150

 

[danielhep]

To those of you who are wondering where to get it:
Right here: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...32-105981611-2
With this coupon code: VDH57775

 

[azeem40]

I would get it, but it's too much hassle selling it if I want a GTX 680 when it comes back in stock.

 

[jcniest5]

To those of you who are wondering where to get it:
Right here: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...32-105981611-2
With this coupon code: VDH57775

Doesn't work. It only gave me $20 discount, down to $269.99. That's it.

 

[Termie]

The 7850 is equal to the 570 in some games, slower in others. The 560-448 nearly as fast as a 570, so its basically on par with a stock 7850. OC the 7850, and you are looking at more speed. No clue how well the 560-448's OC.

Once overclocked a 7850 comes close to a gtx 580

You guys are massively overestimating the OC potential of the 7850. Even when sporting a 200MHz OC, it can't touch a 7870, and that just brings it even with a 570. No way it's ever going to touch a 580 in games that matter (BF3, Skyrim, not Crysis).

http://techreport.com/articles.x/22705/8

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5625/...-7850-review-rounding-out-southern-islands/19

In pure price/performance, it's nothing special at all.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

You guys are massively overestimating the OC potential of the 7850. Even when sporting a 200MHz OC, it can't touch a 7870, and that just brings it even with a 570. No way it's ever going to touch a 580 in games that matter (BF3, Skyrim, not Crysis).

http://techreport.com/articles.x/22705/8

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5625/...-7850-review-rounding-out-southern-islands/19

In pure price/performance, it's nothing special at all.

Well that changes things....

448 fo sho.