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7800's for sale

I don't see these selling too well until nvidia shows up. The people that have to have the latest tech bought the 7970 or 7950, the enthusiast crowd that the 350 dollar range is aimed at will wait to see all the options before pulling the trigger.
 
Subyman said:
I don't see these selling too well until nvidia shows up. The people that have to have the latest tech bought the 7970 or 7950, the enthusiast crowd that the 350 dollar range is aimed at will wait to see all the options before pulling the trigger.
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^ this.
 
Subyman said:
I don't see these selling too well until nvidia shows up. The people that have to have the latest tech bought the 7970 or 7950, the enthusiast crowd that the 350 dollar range is aimed at will wait to see all the options before pulling the trigger.
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I dunno. They perform really well at their pricepoints, the 7870 outperforms the GTX 580 in many games while still costing less. Have you seen the performance figures? the 7870 performs surprisingly well, beating the 580 in many tests which still MSRP's at 429.99 or so.
 
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That Gigabyte 7850 looks nice. a 14% OC at the same price as the stock cards? sweet. I'd bet even money that one of those could hit 1.1ghz without doing anything to the card itself.
 
Subyman said:
I don't see these selling too well until nvidia shows up. The people that have to have the latest tech bought the 7970 or 7950, the enthusiast crowd that the 350 dollar range is aimed at will wait to see all the options before pulling the trigger.
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Maybe. Once the 680 launches, which by all accounts should be soon, we'll have a pretty good idea of what nVidia's performance will be like at that level. If it's going to take another 2-3 months for nVidia to get similar hardware out and the two architectures look comparable in terms of performance and price, I can see a lot of people just going with AMD. If it's just another month, they'll probably wait.

Realistically, if nVidia has stuff available when IB hits, I'll look at it more closely, but if they don't and it looks like it will be a while, I'll probably just get a 78XX. I imagine that anyone else who's in the same boat as me as far as upgrades go might act similarly.
 
I'm not waiting unless nvidia makes official announcements soon for stuff under $400 msrp. 680 not likely in my budget range and no rumors about anything else soon.
 
blackened23 said:
I dunno. They perform really well at their pricepoints, the 7870 outperforms the GTX 580 in many games while still costing less. Have you seen the performance figures? the 7870 performs surprisingly well, beating the 580 in many tests which still MSRP's at 429.99 or so.
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That is exactly my point, the 7870 is a good value but hardly a must-have upgrade for a person with an enthusiast card like the 570 or the 6950/6970. Unless a person must have a card right now, they will most likely wait to see how things shake out. I'm ready for things to play out so I can make an informed decision on my next videocard purchase.
 
Atreidin said:
Yeah these won't sell well at all. Oh wait, they are all out of stock.
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Obviously, what videocard launch hasn't been OOS the first day? I haven't seen as much buzz about these as the 7970 drew in. 7970's were OOS for several weeks. However, OOS is a poor rubric anyway, since we don't know the volume going through distribution. 500 cards on newegg will sell out regardless of the performance. Pushing 50,000 would be pretty damn good.

7870 is a great card, but I think most enthusiasts will wait it out unless they must have a card due to failure or such.
 
This is the first time I'm following video card launches. What's the chance of kepler midrange dropping within a month or so? Any chance?
 
Subyman said:
7870 is a great card, but I think most enthusiasts will wait it out unless they must have a card due to failure or such.
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Well I wouldn't class myself as a gaming enthusiast but it's funny that you should mention the words failure. My old 8800GT bumbgated on me and although I have baked it (and have underclocked it to around 60%) I imagine it's going to fail again...

Plus my brother's 8800GT also bumbgated and I also do a bit of tech support and have personally seen 8400GS MXM, a couple of HP DV6000 laptops plus just last week a S775 nForce 7150 mobo all with the infamous bumbgate :-(

So while I might not like Nvidia's aggressive marketing etc. what really irks me about Nvidia and is the reason why I will probably not buy or recommend their parts for a long time is the way bumbgate was handled. Sure, other companies make mistakes too (could part of Intel's slow down of tick-tock be due to wanting to avoid a repeat of the SB chipset recall) but the way this was handled has left a bad taste in my mouth.

However, I do welcome Nvidia to 28nm if that eventually leads to better prices 🙂
 
I don't see these selling to well either. The "got to have the best regardless of price" crowd already bought the 7900's - this card is aimed at ppl who understand value and pay $200-$300 for only 10% less performance than cards costing 100% more.

These cards have no value at current price points. For example the GTX 570 is about the same as 7870 and $100 cheaper. The 560tis are like the 7850s for $70 cheaper.

Overpriced.
 
Nintendesert said:
These cards really need to be $50 cheaper to make them sell really well.
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If they sell the cards faster but end up selling the same amount of cards because of low inventory, then they would just be losing money. That would be a retarded business move.
 
7850 needs to be 15 dollars cheaper :thumbsup:

But since they phased out the 6950s, it's still an amazing deal imo
 
Atreidin said:
If they sell the cards faster but end up selling the same amount of cards because of low inventory, then they would just be losing money. That would be a retarded business move.
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Of course, it could simply come down to TSMC not being able to provide enough 28nm chips and why we're going to have high GPU prices across the board. Or we're just being gouged. :\
 
KompuKare said:
Snip - what really irks me about Nvidia and is the reason why I will probably not buy or recommend their parts for a long time is the way bumbgate was handled - snip.
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+1

Its why i would never go back to nvidia also... i spent over £11k on 10x Acer laptops (Acer 8930g with GF-9700M) with nvidia gpu`s, Most of which bummed out, 6 of them when warranty was out and 2 within (two i sold). I still have couple faulty ones laying around collecting dust.

Combo of ACER+nvidia is by far the worst ever created, they should have been sued.
 
mak360 said:
+1

Its why i would never go back to nvidia also... i spent over £11k on 10x Acer laptops (Acer 8930g with GF-9700M) with nvidia gpu`s, Most of which bummed out, 6 of them when warranty was out and 2 within (two i sold). I still have couple faulty ones laying around collecting dust.

Combo of ACER+nvidia is by far the worst ever created, they should have been sued.
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I have a couple collecting dust as well... Oh well, don't buy discrete graphics in notebooks for me. CPU on-die graphics is the way to go. The less "moving" parts the better 🙂
 
Magic Carpet said:
Oh well, don't buy discrete graphics in notebooks for me. CPU on-die graphics is the way to go. The less "moving" parts the better 🙂
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Since I don't game much, as soon as APUs get good enough I'd like to eliminate a GPU altogether. I had sort of hoped that with the move to 28nm the idle temps for something like a 7770 or even 7850 would be low enough to have the fan silent on 2D stuff, but no. A pity maybe next time. Irony is that AMD did very well with the power gating on Llano and even Bulldozer. Guess proper 2D silence from a graphics card involves having a dedicated 2D part and enough RAM for the framebuffer onchip running at a lower voltage and 'instant' switching between the two.

Thing is my desktop has a fairly quiet Seasonic PSU, a reasonable Arctic Cooling Freezer7 so the only thing making noise is the GPU which hardly gets used.

Strangely enough, rumours point to Nvidia having good thermals this time. But since I don't want to buy Nvidia again...
 
The Gigabyte card is clocked at 1.1Ghz, so that beats a 580 for $359 and comes damn near close to a 7950 sometimes faster.

I think that's a bargain.
 
Looks like a 7850/7870 would be a decent upgrade for my 4870 and not need a new PSU. Plus some of these cards are shorter than my 4870 and would fit my case whereas the 7950 won't. 🙂
 
And they're all sold out. I think they're both competitive cards for what they offer, especially at their price points. For $50 less, they'll be steals, which we eventually see.
 
These Pitcairns are great cards and right at the price / performance sweet spot.

With nVidia only coming out with a $550 GTX 680 there will be no competition at this price point for the next couple of months.

I think AMD will make a killing with these cards as long as .28nm yields from TSMC are OK.
 
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