7800GTX vs X1900XTX or wait for G71

[imported_Sifu]

Faced with this same decision, I bought an eVGA 7800 so I could build my system, and plan to step up to the 7900.

For me, the irritation of ATI CCC and the noise of ATI's stock cooler were serious issues. The real deal breaker, though, is that I wanted to buy an eVGA product, as their support is incredible. That's worth a lot to me, and no ATI partner offers anything comparable. eVGA not only allows a step-up within 90 days, but also allows aftermarket cooling without voiding warranty - in addition to offering really excellent tech support for tweaking.

I have nothing to do with eVGA and only found out about them 2 weeks ago, but the conclusion of my research was to go for the G71. I should add that if I were planning on getting a first generation DX10 card, and noise was not an issue, I would have nabbed an x1900xt in a heartbeat.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Pete
Only reason I'd be apprehensive about the X1900XT is the fan noise, which--as far as I can tell from various site and user reviews--will probably be at least slightly annoying in 3D mode if you're a quiet nut (like me) or acceptable if you don't pay particular attention to noise and have other buzzy fans in your case (cheap PSU or case fans, MB fans). I'm leaning toward NV offering a quieter stock cooling solution on their 7900, as they're quieter than ATI with all of the 7800s (GT, GTX, GTX-512).

<thud>

That sound you just heard was BFG fainting in New Zealand when he saw the 60 and 61db noise output of ATIs new cards.

Holy buckets! 6db louder than 7800GTX SLI or 512 GTX?! :shocked:

I've said it before, I'll say it again: for that much money they could have put a Silencer on them?

and has been shown elsewhere, +6db isn't much difference . . . especially depending on its frequency.

if you are that insistant on 'quiet' you can add a cheap Silencer yourself and still save a couple of hundred over the GTX. . . .

. . . and some people would even find 50 db annoying [those with hearing like a bat's]

Actually, no, it has not been shown elsewhere. Shall I refer to are discussion in the other thread? I thought I learned ya apoppin. +6 dB is a HUGE difference. Besides. it's 7 to 8 on HardOCP's decibel test at stage II. Where the hell do you get off saying +6 decibels isn't much difference?!? DO NOT MISINFORM THESE FOLKS ANY LONGER. Is the X1900XT faster than the GTX512? Most of the time yes. Is it as quiet or just a scooooch louder than the GTX512? In your dreams. According to your very own links in the other thread, the X1900XTx is just shy of TWICE as loud. You said it yourself. Human ear perceives a doubling of sound volume with an increase of 10dB, which is wrong, but we will go with it to YOUR benefit. So folks, how loud would you think a 7 to 8dB increase be? Just short of twice according to apoppin.

Everyone do yourselves a favor. Apoppin here has an agenda. It's pretty weird actually and I can't get my mind around it. This guy instantly, almost overnight turned Pure 100
% ATI fanboy to the nth power.

So, when you read posts from him, tread carefully. Because he just flat out lied to all of you and he is well aware of it because we just went through the same BS in another thread. Watch out for this guy, his agenda has altered him in some way.

Link to other thread about noise and decibels

I will honestly tell you, that you should listen to Ackmed, before even considering listening to this guy. And for me, that is saying something.

/peace.

forget it . . . it's clear you won't bother with 'facts'

you are spewing FUD and BS about the loudness differences . . . and you changed since you got your 7800GTX . . . ATi didn't send me a 'free' x850xt

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: Sifu
Faced with this same decision, I bought an eVGA 7800 so I could build my system, and plan to step up to the 7900.

For me, the irritation of ATI CCC and the noise of ATI's stock cooler were serious issues. The real deal breaker, though, is that I wanted to buy an eVGA product, as their support is incredible. That's worth a lot to me, and no ATI partner offers anything comparable. eVGA not only allows a step-up within 90 days, but also allows aftermarket cooling without voiding warranty - in addition to offering really excellent tech support for tweaking.

I have nothing to do with eVGA and only found out about them 2 weeks ago, but the conclusion of my research was to go for the G71. I should add that if I were planning on getting a first generation DX10 card, and noise was not an issue, I would have nabbed an x1900xt in a heartbeat.

Heres your problem. You bought the 7800 for lets say 300 bucks. When the G71 comes out, lest say its MSRP is 600 bucks. But actual price is around 450 bucks(kinda like what happened witht he 1900XT) . EVGA will take what you paid which is 300 bucks. Then it will subtract it from the price of the MSRP G71, lets say 600. So in the end, your ending up paying 300 bucks for the new card, only 150 less than what you couild have gotten the card for. And I bet Nvidia delayed their launch of the G71 just so they don't have to give away free g71s to the people who paid 800 bucks for the 512 7800GTX cards.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Steelski

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Pete
Only reason I'd be apprehensive about the X1900XT is the fan noise, which--as far as I can tell from various site and user reviews--will probably be at least slightly annoying in 3D mode if you're a quiet nut (like me) or acceptable if you don't pay particular attention to noise and have other buzzy fans in your case (cheap PSU or case fans, MB fans). I'm leaning toward NV offering a quieter stock cooling solution on their 7900, as they're quieter than ATI with all of the 7800s (GT, GTX, GTX-512).

<thud>

That sound you just heard was BFG fainting in New Zealand when he saw the 60 and 61db noise output of ATIs new cards.

Holy buckets! 6db louder than 7800GTX SLI or 512 GTX?! :shocked:

I've said it before, I'll say it again: for that much money they could have put a Silencer on them?

and has been shown elsewhere, +6db isn't much difference . . . especially depending on its frequency.

if you are that insistant on 'quiet' you can add a cheap Silencer yourself and still save a couple of hundred over the GTX. . . .

. . . and some people would even find 50 db annoying [those with hearing like a bat's]

Actually, no, it has not been shown elsewhere. Shall I refer to are discussion in the other thread? I thought I learned ya apoppin. +6 dB is a HUGE difference. Besides. it's 7 to 8 on HardOCP's decibel test at stage II. Where the hell do you get off saying +6 decibels isn't much difference?!? DO NOT MISINFORM THESE FOLKS ANY LONGER. Is the X1900XT faster than the GTX512? Most of the time yes. Is it as quiet or just a scooooch louder than the GTX512? In your dreams. According to your very own links in the other thread, the X1900XTx is just shy of TWICE as loud. You said it yourself. Human ear perceives a doubling of sound volume with an increase of 10dB, which is wrong, but we will go with it to YOUR benefit. So folks, how loud would you think a 7 to 8dB increase be? Just short of twice according to apoppin.

Everyone do yourselves a favor. Apoppin here has an agenda. It's pretty weird actually and I can't get my mind around it. This guy instantly, almost overnight turned Pure 100
% ATI fanboy to the nth power.

So, when you read posts from him, tread carefully. Because he just flat out lied to all of you and he is well aware of it because we just went through the same BS in another thread. Watch out for this guy, his agenda has altered him in some way.

Link to other thread about noise and decibels

I will honestly tell you, that you should listen to Ackmed, before even considering listening to this guy. And for me, that is saying something.

/peace.

Really really rich coming from you.
Talking about agendas and fanboys........
Key splayr.............FUD sprayer more like. I dout that the card is so ear piercing loud that it can not be run in most computers..... i bet most of us dont even close our case.

I have my preferences as I have stated a million times before, but I'm no freaky fanboy.
You think what I'm saying here is FUD? In what way shape or form? You may not think 7 to 8dB makes a difference, but I as well as others know it does. Posted it, so folks that know that noise really matters to them would not be lied to. XT is faster, available, reasonably priced, and a hell of a lot louder. So, which of these are FUD?

Yeah, I thought so.....

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Steelski

Really really rich coming from you.
Talking about agendas and fanboys........
Key splayr.............FUD sprayer more like. I dout that the card is so ear piercing loud that it can not be run in most computers..... i bet most of us dont even close our case.

I have my preferences as I have stated a million times before, but I'm no freaky fanboy.
You think what I'm saying here is FUD? In what way shape or form? You may not think 6dB makes a difference, but I as well as others know it does. Posted it, so folks that know that noise really matters to them would not be lied to. XT is faster, available, reasonably priced, and a hell of a lot louder. So, which of these are FUD?

yes just about everything you spewed is FUD . . . where shall i start?:

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

I really don't think you understand this stuff, hehe.

In laymans terms so it cannot be twisted:

60dB is 10 times louder than 50dB

55dB to 58dB = 3dB increase = double the sound intensity.
58dB is twice as loud as 55dB.

total nonsense - it's CLEAR you have no clue about what you posted above . . . +10 db is TWICE as loud

. . . 60db is twice as loud as as 50 db

55dB to 58dB = 3dB increase = a BARELY noticeable difference
58dB is NOT twice as loud as 55dB [see above]


the REST of you posts on this subject are no better and filled with 'voodoo logic' and innaccuracies.
:thumbsdown:

. . . and you are one of the biggest nVidia fanboys - anywhere - second only to Rollo, i think, since you got your GTX.

. . . was it from AEG? . . . i think they expect 'better' posts.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: apoppin

forget it . . . it's clear you won't bother with 'facts'

you are spewing FUD and BS about the loudness differences . . . and you changed since you got your 7800GTX . . . ATi didn't send me a 'free' x850xt

Yeah, I'm ignoring the facts that I have to repeatedly type in every thread you lay your BS in. Yeah, I ignoring the facts even though they are present in the very paragraph of mine you quoted here. No FUD coming from me, it's from you. Playing down the noise differences with "You could barely notice the difference". OMFG....

You're here to play ATI advocate. That's fine. You can tell them that the X1900XTX is faster, cheaper, more available. I would have said nothing or at least agreed with you because it is for the most part, accurate. When the FUD hits, you WILL here from me.

I never said ATI sent you a "free" x850XT. You said you found a great deal and bought one. So, I really don't know what the heck you mean by this.

If you're implying that I got my 7800GTX for free, think again. I traded parts plus cash to a member in FS/FT named Blunt. Ask him yourself. Keep it private to PM's to blunt and ask him what parts and amount of cash I traded him for it. Then ask me.

So, if this was a subtle attempt to say that I receive PC parts for free to say the things I say, I guess it was just a matter of time for you to stoop this low.

 

[jim1976]

LOL Appopin m8 chill, no reason to be upset :beer:

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: apoppin

yes just about everything you spewed is FUD . . . where shall i start?:

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

I really don't think you understand this stuff, hehe.

In laymans terms so it cannot be twisted:

60dB is 10 times louder than 50dB

55dB to 58dB = 3dB increase = double the sound intensity.
58dB is twice as loud as 55dB.

total nonsense - it's CLEAR you have no clue about what you posted above . . . +10 db is TWICE as loud

. . . 60db is twice as loud as as 50 db

55dB to 58dB = 3dB increase = a BARELY noticeable difference
58dB is NOT twice as loud as 55dB [see above]


the REST of you posts on this subject are no better and filled with 'voodoo logic' and innaccuracies.
:thumbsdown:

. . . and you are one of the biggest nVidia fanboys - anywhere - second only to Rollo, i think, since you got your GTX.

. . . was it from AEG? . . . i think they expect 'better' posts.



[/quote]

And then we waltzed on over to your "60dB is TWICE as loud as 50dB" statement. Even giving you the benefit of the doubt I am still correct in saying that the XT is just short of TWICE as loud as the GTX512. I'll ask you again for probably the sixth time now, how much louder do you think 7 to 8dB increase would be? That's correct, almost TWICE as loud, if 10dB is actually TWICE as loud. So you see, even with your numbers, you done yourself in. The article you linked to states "while +3dB is only marginally noticable, a +5dB difference is READILY noticable." Now add 3dB on top of that 5dB and what do we have here. A NOISY s.o.b..

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: apoppin

forget it . . . it's clear you won't bother with 'facts'

you are spewing FUD and BS about the loudness differences . . . and you changed since you got your 7800GTX . . . ATi didn't send me a 'free' x850xt

Yeah, I'm ignoring the facts that I have to repeatedly type in every thread you lay your BS in. Yeah, I ignoring the facts even though they are present in the very paragraph of mine you quoted here. No FUD coming from me, it's from you. Playing down the noise differences with "You could barely notice the difference". OMFG....

You're here to play ATI advocate. That's fine. You can tell them that the X1900XTX is faster, cheaper, more available. I would have said nothing or at least agreed with you because it is for the most part, accurate. When the FUD hits, you WILL here from me.

I never said ATI sent you a "free" x850XT. You said you found a great deal and bought one. So, I really don't know what the heck you mean by this.

If you're implying that I got my 7800GTX for free, think again. I traded parts plus cash to a member in FS/FT named Blunt. Ask him yourself. Keep it private to PM's to blunt and ask him what parts and amount of cash I traded him for it. Then ask me.

So, if this was a subtle attempt to say that I receive PC parts for free to say the things I say, I guess it was just a matter of time for you to stoop this low.

so are you standing by your statement?:

60dB is 10 times louder than 50dB

. . . and don't tell me what i am implying . . . as you try to stuff words in my mouth to cover your ignorance of this subject . . . it's very clear to everyone reading these threads that you don't know anything about psycho acoustics.


and i refuse to be drawn in to another debate . . . we were talking about a +6db difference - from 55 to 61 . . . noticeable, yes . . . not even 'twice as loud' in a normal room

and AGAIN, it DEPENDS on the FREQUENCY of the noise how it is perceived. . . . most people wouldn't be bothered by the difference . . . if the xt is 'noisy', so is the GTX.

 

[Steelski]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: apoppin

yes just about everything you spewed is FUD . . . where shall i start?:

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

I really don't think you understand this stuff, hehe.

In laymans terms so it cannot be twisted:

60dB is 10 times louder than 50dB

55dB to 58dB = 3dB increase = double the sound intensity.
58dB is twice as loud as 55dB.

total nonsense - it's CLEAR you have no clue about what you posted above . . . +10 db is TWICE as loud

. . . 60db is twice as loud as as 50 db

55dB to 58dB = 3dB increase = a BARELY noticeable difference
58dB is NOT twice as loud as 55dB [see above]


the REST of you posts on this subject are no better and filled with 'voodoo logic' and innaccuracies.
:thumbsdown:

. . . and you are one of the biggest nVidia fanboys - anywhere - second only to Rollo, i think, since you got your GTX.

. . . was it from AEG? . . . i think they expect 'better' posts.

And then we waltzed on over to your "60dB is TWICE as loud as 50dB" statement. Even giving you the benefit of the doubt I am still correct in saying that the XT is just short of TWICE as loud as the GTX512. I'll ask you again for probably the sixth time now, how much louder do you think 7 to 8dB increase would be? That's correct, almost TWICE as loud, if 10dB is actually TWICE as loud. So you see, even with your numbers, you done yourself in. The article you linked to states "while +3dB is only marginally noticable, a +5dB difference is READILY noticable." Now add 3dB on top of that 5dB and what do we have here. A NOISY s.o.b..

[/quote]

WE GET IT.

yes its louder and by your standards almost twice as loud.
Have you heard one in action yet????????? i would not think so. Although something can be twice as loud, it does not make it loud. It is not as loud as an avarage CPU fan! and it is not something that is terribly annoying. It can be heard yes!!!! we know.....but frankley most people would not care that much. as you said it is a fast fast card. and it is noisy, but intolerable........not to most. If you personally find it so then get a third party cooler....or even better watercooling. to most i dout it will be a problem.

The bit that i was calling fud was the bit where you ranted about how it would pierce your ear drums(i know you dident use those words)

and you are a fanboy.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Steelski

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: apoppin

yes just about everything you spewed is FUD . . . where shall i start?:

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

I really don't think you understand this stuff, hehe.

In laymans terms so it cannot be twisted:

60dB is 10 times louder than 50dB

55dB to 58dB = 3dB increase = double the sound intensity.
58dB is twice as loud as 55dB.

total nonsense - it's CLEAR you have no clue about what you posted above . . . +10 db is TWICE as loud

. . . 60db is twice as loud as as 50 db

55dB to 58dB = 3dB increase = a BARELY noticeable difference
58dB is NOT twice as loud as 55dB [see above]


the REST of you posts on this subject are no better and filled with 'voodoo logic' and innaccuracies.
:thumbsdown:

. . . and you are one of the biggest nVidia fanboys - anywhere - second only to Rollo, i think, since you got your GTX.

. . . was it from AEG? . . . i think they expect 'better' posts.

And then we waltzed on over to your "60dB is TWICE as loud as 50dB" statement. Even giving you the benefit of the doubt I am still correct in saying that the XT is just short of TWICE as loud as the GTX512. I'll ask you again for probably the sixth time now, how much louder do you think 7 to 8dB increase would be? That's correct, almost TWICE as loud, if 10dB is actually TWICE as loud. So you see, even with your numbers, you done yourself in. The article you linked to states "while +3dB is only marginally noticable, a +5dB difference is READILY noticable." Now add 3dB on top of that 5dB and what do we have here. A NOISY s.o.b..

WE GET IT.

yes its louder and by your standards almost twice as loud.
Have you heard one in action yet????????? i would not think so. Although something can be twice as loud, it does not make it loud. It is not as loud as an avarage CPU fan! and it is not something that is terribly annoying. It can be heard yes!!!! we know.....but frankley most people would not care that much. as you said it is a fast fast card. and it is noisy, but intolerable........not to most. If you personally find it so then get a third party cooler....or even better watercooling. to most i dout it will be a problem.

The bit that i was calling fud was the bit where you ranted about how it would pierce your ear drums(i know you dident use those words)

and you are a fanboy.[/quote]

As a matter of fact, i'm not. I know you get it. Hmmm. lets see. Apoppin is making just as much fuss as I am over this, yet you say nothing to him... Interesting.... And I'm the only one warning of a noisy ATI card. Hmmmm again.. And you think you have the right to use the word fanboy? Not likely.

Whether you realize it or not, everything you just said in this post almost mimmicks what I said in the other thread. I warned of the noise level, and suggested aftermarket cooling or water. You see, I knew the noise problem was fixable. That is not what I had the issue with and I think you see that now.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: apoppin

so are you standing by your statement?:

60dB is 10 times louder than 50dB

My mistake, a typo. 60dB is twice as loud and requires 10 time the power (in audio) to obtain that increase. Do you get that I get this? For christ's sake I said it in my last post to you.

. . . and don't tell me what i am implying . . . as you try to stuff words in my mouth to cover your ignorance of this subject . . .

QUOTE: "was it from AEG? . . . i think they expect 'better' posts."

I think it's pretty clear what you were implying. Looks like I used the right stuffing.


.

 

[xtknight]

Each 3dB doubles sound pressure.
Each 10dB increase means the human ear can hear it twice as loud.

Any questions? Good.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: apoppin

so are you standing by your statement?:

60dB is 10 times louder than 50dB

My mistake, a typo. 60dB is twice as loud and requires 10 time the power (in audio) to obtain that increase. Do you get that I get this? For christ's sake I said it in my last post to you.

. . . and don't tell me what i am implying . . . as you try to stuff words in my mouth to cover your ignorance of this subject . . .

QUOTE: "was it from AEG? . . . i think they expect 'better' posts."

I think it's pretty clear what you were implying. Looks like I used the right stuffing.


.

a 'typo'

you posted that same crap over and over . . . it's pretty clear you don't understand the formulas you were using
. . . where as i do know about psycho acoustics.

as to 'stuffing' . . . aren't you the same one that said i have an agenda?

well, right back at you . . . no 'implication' . . . it's pretty clear to all but the most dense. . . .
. . . even with a ''

it's still clear you don't know the difference between 55 and 61 db

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: apoppin

so are you standing by your statement?:

60dB is 10 times louder than 50dB

My mistake, a typo. 60dB is twice as loud and requires 10 time the power (in audio) to obtain that increase. Do you get that I get this? For christ's sake I said it in my last post to you.

. . . and don't tell me what i am implying . . . as you try to stuff words in my mouth to cover your ignorance of this subject . . .

QUOTE: "was it from AEG? . . . i think they expect 'better' posts."

I think it's pretty clear what you were implying. Looks like I used the right stuffing.


.

a 'typo'

you posted that same crap over and over . . . it's pretty clear you don't understand the formulas you were using
. . . where as i do know about psycho acoustics.

as to 'stuffing' . . . aren't you the same one that said i have an agenda?

well, right back at you . . . no 'implication' . . . it's pretty clear to all but the most dense. . . .
. . . even with a ''

it's still clear you don't know the difference between 55 and 61 db

And it's 7 to 8dB not 6. Yes my error. But now that I have corrected that, nothing has changed as you refused to see in my last say ohh... 6 posts? You still havent acknowledged, as other have, the fact that 7 to 8 dB is almost Twice as loud. From your very own linked article, 5dB is Readily noticeable. Comments? No? Why not?
You got served and pretend to be a psycho acoustic specialist all of a sudden. You just read up on it last night and probably thought you could bluff and get away with it. Not here bud.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: apoppin

so are you standing by your statement?:

60dB is 10 times louder than 50dB

My mistake, a typo. 60dB is twice as loud and requires 10 time the power (in audio) to obtain that increase. Do you get that I get this? For christ's sake I said it in my last post to you.

. . . and don't tell me what i am implying . . . as you try to stuff words in my mouth to cover your ignorance of this subject . . .

QUOTE: "was it from AEG? . . . i think they expect 'better' posts."

I think it's pretty clear what you were implying. Looks like I used the right stuffing.


.

a 'typo'

you posted that same crap over and over . . . it's pretty clear you don't understand the formulas you were using
. . . where as i do know about psycho acoustics.

as to 'stuffing' . . . aren't you the same one that said i have an agenda?

well, right back at you . . . no 'implication' . . . it's pretty clear to all but the most dense. . . .
. . . even with a ''

it's still clear you don't know the difference between 55 and 61 db

And it's 7 to 8dB not 6. Yes my error. But now that I have corrected that, nothing has changed as you refused to see in my last say ohh... 6 posts? You still havent acknowledged, as other have, the fact that 7 to 8 dB is almost Twice as loud. From your very own linked article, 5dB is Readily noticeable. Comments? No? Why not?
You got served and pretend to be a psycho acoustic specialist all of a sudden. You just read up on it last night and probably thought you could bluff and get away with it. Not here bud.

You're the one posting crap about +3db being TWICE as loud - over-and-over - even ridiculing me - even though i turned out to be right and you wrong.

i stuck to my original statment that +3db is a barely noticeable difference; that +6db is not earthshatterning nor much practical difference in a normal room.

did you notice that i refused to be drawn into an expanded discussion about greater differences. . . .you are using troll tactics [again].

i have YEARS experience with psycho acoustics including formal education . . . and as an audiophile . . . last night was just finding links simple enough for you to comprehend.

What you STILL fail to understand is that "twice as loud" in a [practical/normal] room setting is not necessarily perceived as noisy or even noticeable. . . . e.g. increasing a fans db level from 55 to 61 or even 63db is about the same as a 'whisper' vs. a 'mosquito's buzz' . . . you likely wouldn't notice either - or you'd hate both.

You are still spewing FUD . . . a few posts above you stated:

we have here. A NOISY s.o.b..

No we don't . . . or you have to also say the GTX is noisy . . .

your agenda is clear . . . you are just out of your league here.

 

[nib95]

Jeez is this still going on?
Are some people out there really arguing about a few measly DB's?

Do ATI fanboys do this kind of thing?
Or do Nvidia fanboys take that crown soley?

 

[CKXP]

what's up with the whole dB thing??? i bet you two could spend all day arguing about, "if a tree fell in the woods, and no one was around to hear it, would it make a dB??"

 

[Jules]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: nts

Your choices

1) Buy an X1900XT or XTX if you want to overclock to the max
2) Wait for the G71 and compare to X1900, if you can't wait then see option 1

I would not recommend you get the GTX512, IMO not worth it

btw I just picked up the X1900XT (will arrive soon), so voted that way

Not everyone is comfortable "OCing $500-$600 cards to the max" nts. Some of us don't think those 5 extra fps are worth risking that much money?

REREAD WHAT HE SAID. He said or get a XTX If you want to overclock to the max. KEYWORD WANT!

 

[Pete]

Originally posted by: Rollo
Holy buckets! 6db louder than 7800GTX SLI or 512 GTX?! :shocked:

Yeah, it's louder, but reviews seem to vary wildly in describing the extra noise, and I don't know how CB.de's #s translate to comfort. Then again, you see a review show the XT/X louder when idle than the GTX is when gaming, and you know ATI's got room for improvement, to put it mildly. Hopefully I didn't put it too mildly, as you are using an 1800XL now.

Also notable is that GT SLI is basically as loud as an XTX--one less variable in that comparison, at least.

I've said it before, I'll say it again: for that much money they could have put a Silencer on them?

You have to wonder why every AIB selling high-end cards hasn't done the same. "Silencer, and you're done."

 

[apoppin]

that is the 2nd time i replied to this thread . . .

UNintentionally



sorry





someone else brought up a parallel thread


anyway, what did the OP decide?

?