7800gt to 8800gt: a bad upgrade in my opinion

[JRKIO]

I have a PS3 for Call of Duty 4, Hellgate London doesn't look very fun, Bioshock is old now, World in Crisis is cool but still runs decently on my 7800gt; I just don't see how upgrading to a 512 8800gt is worth $250. Just to play Crysis at mostly medium settings, even at my native resolution of 1280x1024? I think I'm about to cancel my Dell Asus order that is supposed to ship on 12/26. With the 9xxx geforces being common in 4 months hopefully for around $300 or $350, I'm satisfied for now playing Team Fortess 2 sans antialiasing...

 

[InFeXiOn]

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[JRKIO]

lawl, no newsletter yet I'm just trying to find a worthy reason to upgrade to a 8800gt when there aren't even more than 1 or 2 Directx 10 games I would enjoy playing. The one game I would really enjoy with the upgrade would be Oblivion, but I'd honestly rather buy the GOTY ps3 version to play on my 67" Samsung.

 

[Syntax Error]

No one is forcing you to buy an 8800GT...if you can wait for the Geforce 9-series, then by all means stick with it.

 

[JRKIO]

Right now I am leaning towards canceling my order. The hype of the card being out of stock everywhere put me into buying mode but once I sat down and thought about the upgrade I realized that the 8800gt isn't very future proof for next year's Directx10 games.

 

[InFeXiOn]

No, someone is definitely forcing him.

In fact, he's whispering on the phone to me now as they hold a gun to his temple.

 

[ArchAngel777]

Amazing... Someone thinks the move from a 7800GT to an 8800GT is terrible? That is about 3x-4x faster... I am not sure you can ask for anymore, especially in the $250 range.

 

[eyk03]

By that logic, you'll never buy a new video card.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Well I'm going from a 7800gt co to a 8800gts and I think that it's worth the money since I upgrade every two years anyway. The price of the gts w/crysis versus the gt is not that much anyway plus I just bought my son crysis for $50 at walmart so the price is virtually the same if you deduct the game.

 

[error8]

Well the waiting game is not gonna get you to far. Of course that the 9800 GTX ,or how it's gonna be named, is going to be faster or much faster than the 8800 gt, but for today games G92 rocks, you can play anything you want on maximum details. Crysis will probably work on very high settings on your native resolution, Gears of war and quite about any game you can think of. And think about that when you will want to buy another video card, you'll get quite some money on the 8800 gt, the same thing doesn't happen with your very old 7800 GT. It's your money and your choice, but don't wait just because some better new hardware is gonna be released in the future.

 

[JRKIO]

Originally posted by: error8
Crysis will probably work on very high settings on your native resolution, Gears of war and quite about any game you can think of.

That is what I thought also, but after reading reviews, this doesn't seem to be the case. The new HardOCP 8800GTS review shows that most settings in Cysis have to be left on medium, even at 1280x1024. I think I'm just frustrated with the games currently available in DirectX 10.

 

[Peelback79]

Hey, if you're happy where you are, then be happy and save those monies meng. That's when I've been doing. I've been milking my FX5950 "Ultra" (Ultra what I wonder) for a few years now. I think my system will be celebrating it's 3rd or 4th birthday soon. I've waited a long time to buy a new system which when I build, it will likewise last me....knock on woody.....another 3 years (<---doubtful after Nehalem). I've been almost happy playing games on Max low, no shadows, no dynamic lighting, no double digit fps. But my waiting has paid off: Voila! A plethra of GPU's to choose from! After Christmas I hope the $ amounts goes down a little. But then it is only 2 more months till the 9xxx's come out. So when I build my compy (around Christmas) I think I'm just gonna buy an old 8600GTS to carry me through till February. Or try the step up program wtih an 8800GT.

 

[lollybo]

You are justified in your decision. Honestly, there aren't enough good games right now that would justify the upgrade. The next generation of video cards are going to be super fast, just wait for those.

 

[Spike]

I completely disagree with you. As you can note in my sig I currently run a 7800GT with a Opteron 165 @ 2.52 and I can't WAIT for my new 8800GTS 512 to come. I want to FINALLY play oblivion with the texture packs installed at 1680x1050 as well as be able to turn up the settings in WiC, bioshock, COD4, and UT 3. Yes, I will be CPU bound but not by so much that I wont see a HUGE increase when going to the 8800GTS.

As others said, if you want to stay fine, but I see it as a no brainer for me.

 

[videogames101]

Basically, upgrade when a game comes out that you rly want to play with awesome graphics, always worked for me. I never saw the point in upgrading when there are no games your REALLY looking forward to.

 

[hooflung]

Originally posted by: Spike
I completely disagree with you. As you can note in my sig I currently run a 7800GT with a Opteron 165 @ 2.52 and I can't WAIT for my new 8800GTS 512 to come. I want to FINALLY play oblivion with the texture packs installed at 1680x1050 as well as be able to turn up the settings in WiC, bioshock, COD4, and UT 3. Yes, I will be CPU bound but not by so much that I wont see a HUGE increase when going to the 8800GTS.

As others said, if you want to stay fine, but I see it as a no brainer for me.

1680x1050 is the only reason why I have upgraded from a X1900GT to the 3850 512 ( arrives on friday ). WD gaming to me is serious business. My other gaming rig, a 3800 X2, 2g, NF4 SLI mobo, 7800GT... will be just fine on my 19" 1280x1024 that is attatched to it for some time.

Now if I could just sell this X1900GT ^^

 

[Demoth]

Very subjective opinion, but I agree with the OP. I'm holding my 7900GT simply because it runs everything I want to play just fine and I want to see how fast the next gen is in Feb.

When the next gen is within months and your current card is still doing the job (and your not a millionaire) then being able to stay clear of new release hype can be a good trait.

Yes, the 8800GT will be up to 3X faster then a 7800GT in certain games at high res/settings, but it is still too similar to the 8800GTX (that has been out for over a year) to justify spending $250 (for me).

Those buying 8800GTs and 38XXs now are getting a great cost/performance. Either waiting or buying now, it's up to you and neither option is bad.

 

[Spook]

At this point im working on the timing of my next upgrade as well. I'm interested in the new intel Penryn Quad cores coming out at the end of Jan or beginning of February. This with a 8800GT or GTS would be a good upgrade.... I'm waiting on the video card too because, if i get a EVGA card i can step up to a 98xx card within 90 days(If i decide its worth the extra $$$)... So, that's my plan of attack on the next upgrade.

 

[m1ldslide1]

Originally posted by: JRKIO
I have a PS3 for Call of Duty 4, Hellgate London doesn't look very fun, Bioshock is old now, World in Crisis is cool but still runs decently on my 7800gt; I just don't see how upgrading to a 512 8800gt is worth $250. Just to play Crysis at mostly medium settings, even at my native resolution of 1280x1024? I think I'm about to cancel my Dell Asus order that is supposed to ship on 12/26. With the 9xxx geforces being common in 4 months hopefully for around $300 or $350, I'm satisfied for now playing Team Fortess 2 sans antialiasing...

I don't know if you can really call it a *bad* upgrade, as its all subjective anyway. For some people, getting 40fps with medium texture settings at 1680x1050 on Crysis is well worth the money. For others, spending $300 on anything but food would be suicide. For you however, it sounds like waiting to upgrade is a good decision. A 7800GT does all the things you mention, and the longer you wait the more drastic of a difference you will notice. Personally I'm perpetually tempted to max all the credit cards and upgrade everything, but these days I'm happy waiting to see just how long I can hold out. $1000 next summer will get me a hell of a lot more than $1000 right now will. In the meantime, 8800gts 640 + dual-core opteron will allow me to enjoy every game that is out, just not at uber-high detail settings. Those settings are just not worth the price premium to me anymore.

 

[RussianSensation]

A lot of us have GF8 because we run at higher resolutions like 1920x1080. Also it all depends on the games you play and the settings you enable. Most certainly your 7800GT WILL NOT run COD4, World in Conflict, Dirt, Bioshock, Need for Speed: Pro Street, Chronicles of Riddick with Soft Shadows, Oblivion with everything on High (not even talking about enabling AA) at say 1600x1200. However, forget the numbers for a second: if you are satisfied with the performance you are getting, then don't upgrade until you feel the games are running too slow. This isn't an online ePenis race about who has the fastest card

What I disagree with is your general statement that it's "a bad upgrade". I mean if all day all you do is play Starcraft or Warcraft 3, sure you are correct. But that's like buying a Ferrari and complaining that it's not enough of an upgrade over a BMW 3 series if all day you just drive in a parking lot....

Anything recent like BF2142 and you are looking at tremendous performance difference:

BF2142 - 1280x1024 4AA/16AF
8800GT 512mb = 92.0fps
7800GT 256mb = 24.6fps

 

[Dacalo]

Originally posted by: JRKIO

Originally posted by: error8
Crysis will probably work on very high settings on your native resolution, Gears of war and quite about any game you can think of.

That is what I thought also, but after reading reviews, this doesn't seem to be the case. The new HardOCP 8800GTS review shows that most settings in Cysis have to be left on medium, even at 1280x1024. I think I'm just frustrated with the games currently available in DirectX 10.

I finished Crysis at 1680x1050 resolution on medium settings. Smooth as silk with 8800GT, Q6600, and 4GB RAM.

 

[taltamir]

He actually makes a good point... I waited and waited... and ended up playing bioschock and crysis on low setthings... I will not go back and replay them, ever.

So why waste money on a new card when my 7900GS maxes out all the upcomming games I am expecting? (galciv2 expansion 2, and universe at war)...

By the time a new INTENSIVE Game hits the market prices would be much lower, in fact they might even have the GF9 cards out by then...

 

[JimiP]

I agree somewhat with the OP.

I definitely don't agree that the move from a 7800GT to an 8800GT is a BAD decision. However, if you can play all the games you want at a frame rate that you feel is reasonable - then hell, I definitely say wait until next year sometime when a really cool game comes out that you want to play and your 7800GT just won't make the cut.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: JRKIO
I have a PS3 for Call of Duty 4, Hellgate London doesn't look very fun, Bioshock is old now, World in Crisis is cool but still runs decently on my 7800gt; I just don't see how upgrading to a 512 8800gt is worth $250. Just to play Crysis at mostly medium settings, even at my native resolution of 1280x1024? I think I'm about to cancel my Dell Asus order that is supposed to ship on 12/26. With the 9xxx geforces being common in 4 months hopefully for around $300 or $350, I'm satisfied for now playing Team Fortess 2 sans antialiasing...

Excellent logic, I would have thought the same.

 

[thegimp03]

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: JRKIO
I have a PS3 for Call of Duty 4, Hellgate London doesn't look very fun, Bioshock is old now, World in Crisis is cool but still runs decently on my 7800gt; I just don't see how upgrading to a 512 8800gt is worth $250. Just to play Crysis at mostly medium settings, even at my native resolution of 1280x1024? I think I'm about to cancel my Dell Asus order that is supposed to ship on 12/26. With the 9xxx geforces being common in 4 months hopefully for around $300 or $350, I'm satisfied for now playing Team Fortess 2 sans antialiasing...

Excellent logic, I would have thought the same.

I think it's decent logic too. I have to say that playing an fps on console is extremely hard though. Been a keyboard and mouse fps gamer for going on 7 years and I recently bought a PS3 and Resistance: Fall of Man. It took me about 45-60 minutes to adjust using the PS3 controller...