775 socket prices unchanged

[Vdubchaos]

I was looking at some Quad Cored for 775 socket and noticed they haven't changed since I purchased my E8400. I bought it for $190 2 years ago....it's still about 180 today.

I don't understand? Figured I would be able to pick up a quad core dirt cheap now days.

What's the reason? Is it that CPUs really haven't advanced that much or Intel just wants you to upgrade to latest socket etc?

 

[Cerb]

Price is largely determined by supply, demand, and Intel not wanting to deal with low margins.

As demand as gone down, supply has also gone down significantly, and Intel has been given no reason to let the prices fall.

If you want a quad, your best bet are FS/FT forums, and eBay...and even then, don't expect much less than $100 for a decent one (Q6600 or faster). Used prices are such that it is still cheaper than a Phenom II platform sidegrade, but still isn't dirt cheap by a long shot.

Enough demand is still there for the supply, because they are still good enough. Most people don't yet feel the need to upgrade from Core 2 class PC. The prices on used Core 2 and AM2+/3 PCs matches the higher prices on the used CPUs.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Intel doesn't do clearance sales with their old-gen chips. Sorry to disappoint.

 

[Borealis7]

EOL'ed chips usually stay the same price. try the 2nd hand market, you'll see upto 66% off!

 

[sm625]

It took a LONG time for P4 chips to come down in price even after the E4300 and E21xx were launched. I could not understand why and how people were selling P4s on ebay for $100+ when you could buy a celeron 440 brand new for $40 and it would smoke it. But those P4s arent $100 nowadays!

 

[IntelEnthusiast]

Guys once a processor has been discontinued we have no control over the price on them. In this case with the Intel® Core™ 2 Quads you are talking about people who have processors that are in demand because of they are the last of the socket 775 processors and a lot of people are still trying to upgrade within that socket still so the prices on this processors isn't dropping.

Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team

 

[greenhawk]

Once discontinued, the price is generally locked by the buying wholesaler as they have already paid for the cpu. As intel is does not make any more, they do not change the asking price (for new stock).

No business will sell a item at a loss until they know they can not sell it, at which point it is proberly bined and written off for tax purposes.

The customer is then left with the choise of second hand or finding a business that was / is silly enough to still have the cpu in stock from back when intel made them. Tech improves, but the purchase price does not reflect that once the part is obsolete.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

there is a huge supply of 775 boards out there, i doubt demand for 775 quads will go down anytime soon, esp now that they arent manufactured anymore. but why would you really want one anyway. 775s are clocked rather low and dual core sb's outperform them by quite a bit.

one of the lessons of this though is that if you buy a higher end intel chip it will probably be good for a long time and hold its value pretty well. anyone who spent the money on an 8400,6600 or 9550 got their money's worth

 

[VirtualLarry]

Glad I grabbed these Q9300 chips from Microcenter, on sale for $100 + tax each.

 

[Sephire]

Guys once a processor has been discontinued we have no control over the price on them. In this case with the Intel® Core™ 2 Quads you are talking about people who have processors that are in demand because of they are the last of the socket 775 processors and a lot of people are still trying to upgrade within that socket still so the prices on this processors isn't dropping.

Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team

What he said.

Q6600 is still hovering around $100. Lots of 775 motherboards out there hungry for quadcore chips.

 

[Rebel44]

I recently easily sold my 4 year old Q6600 for 115$ - lots of people with S775 want to upgrade from dualcore without buying new MB so prices of S775 quads are stable.

On the other hand S775 MoBo can be easily bought for 15$.

 

[Sentrosi2121]

Bought a 9550 for $165 in the ForSale/Trade thread here. Consider it an upgrade from my e8400, especially now that BF3 is coming out soon.

Just check on the FS/T forums here or check Pricewatch.

 

[fire400]

If I were to spend $200 bucks, I'd just go with a 2500K i5, processor wise. Sell my old mobo for whatever price. The margins are too spread apart to be sticking with under-generations.

 

[Cerb]

If I were to spend $200 bucks, I'd just go with a 2500K i5, processor wise. Sell my old mobo for whatever price. The margins are too spread apart to be sticking with under-generations.

Ah, but then there's a mobo, generally $80+ for somebody on here (lots of SATAs, plenty of BIOS options, lots of ports, etc.), new RAM (cheap, but old RAM still works), maybe or maybe not a new OS, maybe or maybe not a new cooler...it's still much cheaper to just get a faster C2Q.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Bought a 9550 for $165 in the ForSale/Trade thread here. Consider it an upgrade from my e8400, especially now that BF3 is coming out soon.

Just check on the FS/T forums here or check Pricewatch.

Considering 9550 was a better deal than PhII X4 after the Intel price cuts, how it held it own after OC and how cheap 775 boards were I won't be surprised it's still so expensive now.

 

[waffleironhead]

sometimes prices take forever to come down, especially the fastest chip produced for a certain slot/socket.

I remember waiting forever for the 1ghz slot1 p3 to drop to a reasonable price.

 

[soccerballtux]

I was looking at some Quad Cored for 775 socket and noticed they haven't changed since I purchased my E8400. I bought it for $190 2 years ago....it's still about 180 today.

I don't understand? Figured I would be able to pick up a quad core dirt cheap now days.

What's the reason? Is it that CPUs really haven't advanced that much or Intel just wants you to upgrade to latest socket etc?

this is the price that Intel users pay.
If they sold their quad core for $100 people would do that instead of building a new system.
This is why it's good we have AMD, they are competitive in these affordable upgrade areas where Intel isn't.
You could jump ship and build an AMD based system that uses your DDR2 or DDR3 ram for cheap, it's what I did back when I had an e8400 and wanted a quad:
http://www.microcenter.com/specials/...ndlePROMO.html
Get that 965 and you can overclock, probably on stock cooling, to about 4Ghz.

 

[VirtualLarry]

this is the price that Intel users pay.
If they sold their quad core for $100 people would do that instead of building a new system.
Get that 965 and you can overclock, probably on stock cooling, to about 4Ghz.

But a Q9550 @ 3.6 is faster than a Phenom II 965 BE @ 4.0.

 

[StrangerGuy]

But a Q9550 @ 3.6 is faster than a Phenom II 965 BE @ 4.0.

And easier to hit 4GHz than most pre-Thuban X4s that hit a brick wall at or just before 4GHz. Besides, X4s are nowhere near $100 like now in the C2Q heydays.

 

[soccerballtux]

But a Q9550 @ 3.6 is faster than a Phenom II 965 BE @ 4.0.

yes it is but I thought he was saying the q9550 cost $200? At microcenter you can get a 965BE + free mobo for $130.

 

[soccerballtux]

And easier to hit 4GHz than most pre-Thuban X4s that hit a brick wall at or just before 4GHz. Besides, X4s are nowhere near $100 like now in the C2Q heydays.

q9550s usually get to 3.8ghz not 4ghz.

 

[tweakboy]

Good informative thread. The Core 2 in 2006 was leaps and bounds ahead of Pentium D or P4. Then 2007 Quad Core ,,,, the power and performance is literally 1000 times faster then previous gen, Pentium D or P4. i7 was good technology but not a break through over Core 2 in terms of raw performance. thx gg


Sandy was not a break through over the i7 series. performance is close....

 

[tweakboy]

q9550s usually get to 3.8ghz not 4ghz.

The Q8300 can do 4Ghz of course the Q9550 can do 4Ghz easy, just need H20 or a big big hsf with 5000rpm jet.

I would do 4.4Ghz easy with a Q9x,,,

 

[soccerballtux]

The Q8300 can do 4Ghz of course the Q9550 can do 4Ghz easy, just need H20 or a big big hsf with 5000rpm jet.

I would do 4.4Ghz easy with a Q9x,,,

can it? I posted a thread asking if I could get 4ghz out of a q9550 because if I could, I would have bought it and been future proof, everyone was like no way dude, thats when I went to Phenom2, the overpriced e8400 I sold + old mobo bought me the new mobo and Phenom2.

 

[Zap]

can it?

Yes. No. Maybe.

You have to consider the source.

Let's put it this way. Very unlikely.

Yes, there have been instances of 4GHz overclocks. That doesn't mean much. 4.4GHz "easy" on a quad 775? Hell no.