7600GT vs X850XT, whos faster?

[Lyfer]

Both cards are at roughly the same price point, both cards are faster than a 6800GT/GS, but which one is overall faster? I can't find any benchmarks of the 7600GT with an X850XT thrown in.

 

[Cooler]

Originally posted by: Lyfer
Both cards are at roughly the same price point, both cards are faster than a 6800GT/GS, but which one is overall faster? I can't find any benchmarks of the 7600GT with an X850XT thrown in.

7600 128 bit memory not 256 like the x850xt.

 

[Lyfer]

Originally posted by: Cooler

Originally posted by: Lyfer
Both cards are at roughly the same price point, both cards are faster than a 6800GT/GS, but which one is overall faster? I can't find any benchmarks of the 7600GT with an X850XT thrown in.

7600 128 bit memory not 256 like the x850xt.

Yeah but you know of where I can find some bencmarks?

 

[BW86]

Text

Here are benchmarks involving:
GeForce 6600GT
GeForce 7600GT
GeForce 7800GT
GeForce 7800GTX
GeForce 7800GTX 512
GeForce 7900GT
GeForce 7900GTX
X1600XT
X1800XL
X1800XT
X1900XT
X1900XTX

...still looking for one with a X850XT in it.

 

[openwheelformula1]

x850XT lacks so many features. There are very good reason why it's so cheap. Efficiency and features are the most important. Unless you don't plan on playing newer games in the next year, I'd get the 7600GT.

X850XT should have more frames in older games, but 7600GT will handle them with ease. Future games will suit 7600GT better.

 

[Munky]

Their performance would be on par for the most part, except in games that favor one side or the other. I've yet to see a review of the 7600gt against the x850xt, but you can estimate the relative performance of each by comparing these 2 reviews:

http://www.behardware.com/articles/611-5/nvidia-geforce-7600-gt.html

http://www.behardware.com/articles/599-...800-gtx-512-mb-the-new-king-of-3d.html

Because these reviews do not use the same settings, you can't compare the numbers directly. But there is a common card in each test - the 6800gs. Also, they test an x800xt in the second one, which is slightly lower clocked than a x850xt (about 5% difference). So you compare how the x800xt performs against the 6800gs, then compare the 7600gt against the 6800gs, and then compare the percentage difference between the lead of the x800xt and the 7600gt against the 6800gs.

 

[Lyfer]

Originally posted by: openwheelformula1
x850XT lacks so many features. There are very good reason why it's so cheap. Efficiency and features are the most important. Unless you don't plan on playing newer games in the next year, I'd get the 7600GT.

X850XT should have more frames in older games, but 7600GT will handle them with ease. Future games will suit 7600GT better.

So many newer features? Care to list them. Which ones the one with hardware divx encoding? ATI always was better in IQ, is in Nvidia the top in IQ now?

 

[Munky]

If you plan on running future games with modern features (SM3, HDR), then plan on buying at least a 7800gt or faster card.

 

[Lyfer]

Originally posted by: munky
If you plan on running future games with modern features (SM3, HDR), then plan on buying at least a 7800gt or faster card.

This rig is for my old bro, so far for the rig I've got:

Fortron FSP450 PSU
Opteron 1.8ghz 1mb cache
Thermalright SLK900 HSF with some cheap 80mm fan
2gb G.SKill DDR500
video card = Geforce 7600GT or Radeon X850XT


With either the 7600GT or X850XT the budget stays under $700 which is perfect for him. Games he plays: COD2/War3:TFT/Quake4/HL2/NFS:MW/BF1942/BF2.

Now which of these cards will give him the most FPS for his $? I've setup several GTO2's in the past which softmod to X850XT's easily and they run everything I throw at pretty darn fast at 1600x1200 res. So i'm leaning towards the X850XT, but I've seen the benchmarks of the 7600GT and its impressive. I just needs some benchmarks to clear this up.

 

[Munky]

If the price difference between the x850xt and the 7600gt is not big, then I'd go with the 7600gt simply because it will perform about the same, but will most likely run quieter, cooler, and the newer features might be useful in card of that class in at least current games, maybe not in future, more demanding games. However, if the x850xt sells for $160 and the 7600gt is $220 or more, then the price difference is not worth it IMO.

 

[Lyfer]

Originally posted by: munky
If the price difference between the x850xt and the 7600gt is not big, then I'd go with the 7600gt simply because it will perform about the same, but will most likely run quieter, cooler, and the newer features might be useful in card of that class in at least current games, maybe not in future, more demanding games. However, if the x850xt sells for $160 and the 7600gt is $220 or more, then the price difference is not worth it IMO.

Sapphire X850XT is $154 after MIR, the EVGA 7600GT CO (slightly OC'ed) runs for $175 after MIR.

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: Lyfer

Originally posted by: munky
If the price difference between the x850xt and the 7600gt is not big, then I'd go with the 7600gt simply because it will perform about the same, but will most likely run quieter, cooler, and the newer features might be useful in card of that class in at least current games, maybe not in future, more demanding games. However, if the x850xt sells for $160 and the 7600gt is $220 or more, then the price difference is not worth it IMO.

Sapphire X850XT is $154 after MIR, the EVGA 7600GT CO (slightly OC'ed) runs for $175 after MIR.

In that case, I'd go for the 7600gt.

 

[Lyfer]

benchmarks found:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2006/03/21/bfg_7600_gt_oc_ati_x1800gto/5.html

The review sucked tho, only 3 games used and they didnt go higher than 1280x1024. Performance of the two cards are pretty identical. 7600 wins by 2-3 frames in F.E.A.R./NFSMW, and X850XT wins by 4 frames in BF2.

 

[Ike0069]

I agree that the 7600 GT is the better choice. No reason to buy a last generation card when you can get an equal performing new gen card for close to the same price.

 

[Skott]

Guru3d.com also has a review of the 7600GT/7900GT/7900GTX benchies in single and SLI mode.

 

[Sunrise089]

So how closely does the 7600GT perform to the 7800GT? I know when the 7800GT launched an X850XT wasn't all that slower when both cards were at stock speeds. If the 7600GT is faster than an X850XT, it must be really close to a 7800GT's performance.

 

[Xelloss]

Don't forget that the x850xt supposedly sounds like a vacuum cleaner too...

I'm currently on the fence between these two cards. I'd take the nvidia for sure, if I weren't fearing incompatibilities with my cheap ATI mobo. As it is, I'm on the fence. :|

 

[Conky]

I like my X850XT and it works very well now with all those games you listed. Why not save a few bucks?

Buying any card for "future" games or abilities is retarded.

 

[TanisHalfElven]

here a site iwth a lot of details.
http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=55&card2=385

 

[secretanchitman]

i would say go with the 7600GT (not only because i prefer nvidia) because it will be faster than the X850XT/XTPE in future games and it has more features too.

still, the X850XT/XTPE is a damn good card. though it lacks a few features, it will play most new games at medium to high settings. i *think*.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Xelloss
Don't forget that the x850xt supposedly sounds like a vacuum cleaner too...

I'm currently on the fence between these two cards. I'd take the nvidia for sure, if I weren't fearing incompatibilities with my cheap ATI mobo. As it is, I'm on the fence. :|

nonsense . . . mine is only loud on start up

and they appear to be "about the same" . . . the x850xt "lacks" SM3.0.

BTW, Oblivion runs great at 11x8/2xAA/everything 'on' and 'hi' and 'max' [no soft shadows] . . . haven't left the cave however and haven't tried higher.

 

[Xelloss]

I guess I'm swinging back towards ATI again, just to be on the safe side. I can always pick up an ATI silencer if the thing is too loud for me.

Anyways, the general verdict from other threads I've seen is this: At stock speeds, they're about the same (allowing for ATI and nVidia's inherent strengths and weaknesses), with the 7600GT maybe having a slight edge.

The 7600GT runs cooler and quieter. It also has Shader Model 3, but it is the opinion of many that this is not a large consideration at this price level, since by the time games come out that make more than cursory use of it, these cards probably won't be great performers anyway. Still the 7600GT has the feature advantage here. Finally, all of the 7600GTs I've seen have dual-DVI, which probably isn't a big deal to a very large number of people, but is an advantage anyway, as it offers increased flexibility. It's also a single slot card, and can be used in an SLI rig.

The x850xt's real advantage comes in its ability to overclock much better than the 7600GT will. These things are supposed to scale very well, especially if you slap a third party heatsink on like an ATI Silencer (which you may want to do anyway to keep the noise level down). You also get ATI's perceived image quality advantage. And from what I've seen, they cost a bit less (~$25), which will just about pay for an ATI Silencer over at ZipZoomFly .

So, end of story? If you're going to overclock, and can live without SM3.0, get the ATI. A good OC will give you great performance. If you intend to run at stock speeds and you need the dual-dvi or sli capabilities, the 7600GT is the card for you.

 

[Powermoloch]

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
i would say go with the 7600GT (not only because i prefer nvidia) because it will be faster than the X850XT/XTPE in future games and it has more features too.

still, the X850XT/XTPE is a damn good card. though it lacks a few features, it will play most new games at medium to high settings. i *think*.

I'm using my x850xt atm, I play all of my games (especially F.E.A.R, Fable, FarCry ) @ 1280x1024 with 2AA or 4AA / 8 AF. No slow down as of this moment (Haven't tried oblivion, since I dont' have a compy)

 

[amenx]

I think the 128bit vs 256bit mem issue no longer holds much relevance in todays cards, esp vs last gen cards. Remember the FX5900? It was 256bit yet got convincingly trounced by the 6600gt 128 bit which also does better than the 256bit 9800 pro.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: amenx
I think the 128bit vs 256bit mem issue no longer holds much relevance in todays cards, esp vs last gen cards. Remember the FX5900? It was 256bit yet got convincingly trounced by the 6600gt 128 bit which also does better than the 256bit 9800 pro.

the memory width is just half of the bandwidth calculation, mhz is the other. the 6600GT is down about 1/4 in bandwidth to the 9800 pro, but can handle 1/3 more shader ops and has about 1/3 more texel fill rate.

the FX5900 was trounced in shader ops and single texturing fillrate vs the 9800 pro, even though it had about 1/4 more memory bandwidth.

in short, your comparisons aren't really all that even. bus width still matters, and always will. there is a reason 64 bit bus width cards blow.