76 Nobel Laureates in Science Endorse Obama!

jackschmittusa

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Now, this is no group of sycophants, these are some of the greatest minds of our nation, so it is really impossible to view this as some sort of partisan blindness. I can?t help but think that the recent ridiculous comments of both McCain and Palin on science have something to to do with the new additions, but to their credit, they limit their statement to science, something they know a little about. For those of you have been asking, I do not know of a single Nobelist in science who has endorsed McCain/Palin.

I doubt that this will mean much to many people here, but I think it is something to consider.

These people have a little more on the ball than the "I read that he is an Arab" kind of people.
 

kage69

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I was waiting for something like this to happen. We have a candidate who is one of the most intelligent and pragmatic runners of all time, trying to win the White House after 8 years of close-minded conservatives taking their war on science to new lows.

Apart from the bullsh!t pseudo-science peddlers down in the bible belt, I wouldn't expect anyone even remotely near the scientific field to endorse McCain and the fundie nut psycho he chose as veep.


Go Obama!
 

aphex

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Really makes you wonder about the 'fruit fly' comment that Palin made.
 

PokerGuy

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Originally posted by: jackschmittusa

I doubt that this will mean much to many people here, but I think it is something to consider.

No, it's not something to consider, much like endorsements from hollywood celebrities or evangelist preachers mean nothing. Their opinions are worth something when it comes to their field of study. Outside of that area, it means nothing.
 

jackschmittusa

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They represent many fields of study. They are generally considered to be some of the brightest people on the planet. That they collectively agree on a subject they have all considered should have some weight.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa

I doubt that this will mean much to many people here, but I think it is something to consider.

No, it's not something to consider, much like endorsements from hollywood celebrities or evangelist preachers mean nothing. Their opinions are worth something when it comes to their field of study. Outside of that area, it means nothing.
Yeah, keep telling yourself that and leave the decisions to the people with IQ's > 130. Thanks.

 

PokerGuy

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa

I doubt that this will mean much to many people here, but I think it is something to consider.

No, it's not something to consider, much like endorsements from hollywood celebrities or evangelist preachers mean nothing. Their opinions are worth something when it comes to their field of study. Outside of that area, it means nothing.
Yeah, keep telling yourself that and leave the decisions to the people with IQ's > 130. Thanks.

You just defined elitism.
 

davestar

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Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa

I doubt that this will mean much to many people here, but I think it is something to consider.

No, it's not something to consider, much like endorsements from hollywood celebrities or evangelist preachers mean nothing. Their opinions are worth something when it comes to their field of study. Outside of that area, it means nothing.

riiight. so the opinions of 76 nobel laureates, whose combined expertise covers nearly every academic discipline, should be discounted? i take from your comment that you think that unless someone is an expert in *everything*, his political opinion should be ignored? riiight.
 

ZeGermans

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Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa

I doubt that this will mean much to many people here, but I think it is something to consider.

No, it's not something to consider, much like endorsements from hollywood celebrities or evangelist preachers mean nothing. Their opinions are worth something when it comes to their field of study. Outside of that area, it means nothing.
Yeah, keep telling yourself that and leave the decisions to the people with IQ's > 130. Thanks.

You just defined elitism.

I like how conservatives make being smart a trait to be ashamed of
 

Dari

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Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa

I doubt that this will mean much to many people here, but I think it is something to consider.

No, it's not something to consider, much like endorsements from hollywood celebrities or evangelist preachers mean nothing. Their opinions are worth something when it comes to their field of study. Outside of that area, it means nothing.
Yeah, keep telling yourself that and leave the decisions to the people with IQ's > 130. Thanks.

You just defined elitism.

You hate them for their intelligence? May as well get a cave next to bin Laden. After all, he endorsed your candidate.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: ZeGermans
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa

I doubt that this will mean much to many people here, but I think it is something to consider.

No, it's not something to consider, much like endorsements from hollywood celebrities or evangelist preachers mean nothing. Their opinions are worth something when it comes to their field of study. Outside of that area, it means nothing.
Yeah, keep telling yourself that and leave the decisions to the people with IQ's > 130. Thanks.

You just defined elitism.

I like how conservatives make being smart a trait to be ashamed of

Exactly. I want my leaders to be better than me. Duh.
 

CycloWizard

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Originally posted by: ZeGermans
I like how conservatives make being smart a trait to be ashamed of
I like how liberals feign intellectualism and charity, all the while eschewing fundamentals of both.
 

nageov3t

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not to take away from their intelligence, but I wouldn't trust a bunch of chemists and medics with choosing the leader of the free world. all I really read in their endorsement is "Obama's going to give us the most money."
 

RKDaley

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Originally posted by: ZeGermans
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
You just defined elitism.

I like how conservatives make being smart a trait to be ashamed of
Yeah, it reminds me of 4th graders making fun of the smartest guy in the class.
:roll:

 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa

I doubt that this will mean much to many people here, but I think it is something to consider.

No, it's not something to consider, much like endorsements from hollywood celebrities or evangelist preachers mean nothing. Their opinions are worth something when it comes to their field of study. Outside of that area, it means nothing.

I was wondering if someone would come in here and try to diminish the value of such an endorsement, and it looks like P&N never disappoints.

To suggest that Hollywood opinion somehow equates to a collective opinion of Nobel Laureates says all I think most people need to know.
 

davestar

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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: ZeGermans
I like how conservatives make being smart a trait to be ashamed of
I like how liberals feign intellectualism and charity, all the while eschewing fundamentals of both.

conservative rejection of "elitism" is demonstrable. it's practically part of the republican platform. i wonder how you've arrived at your conclusion that liberals feign intellectualism and charity. have you seen studies that show that most college (and beyond) educated people are conservative? do liberals donate to charitable organizations less than their conservative counterparts? for some reason i doubt it, but i'd love to see some empirical evidence to the contrary.
 
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Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa

I doubt that this will mean much to many people here, but I think it is something to consider.

No, it's not something to consider, much like endorsements from hollywood celebrities or evangelist preachers mean nothing. Their opinions are worth something when it comes to their field of study. Outside of that area, it means nothing.

Look at it this way instead of your hollywood example.

These people are leaders in their field. They want more money for R&D, grants, and other scientific ventures. The fact that so many of them endorse one option says that they believe that person will help them advance their respective fields.

Nations that have great scientific minds, and is a leader in the scientific arena usually are some of the most successful nations. So their endorsement for Obama can infer that they believe he will help fund scientific reasearch.

 

Mursilis

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa

I doubt that this will mean much to many people here, but I think it is something to consider.

No, it's not something to consider, much like endorsements from hollywood celebrities or evangelist preachers mean nothing. Their opinions are worth something when it comes to their field of study. Outside of that area, it means nothing.
Yeah, keep telling yourself that and leave the decisions to the people with IQ's > 130. Thanks.

Some estimates of Hitler's IQ have it above 130 (Link), and actual U.S. Army testing of various high-level Nazis also suggest 130+ IQs (Link2). Obviously, a person can have a genius level mind and a screwy moral compass. I'm filing these endorsements under "irrelevant".
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa

I doubt that this will mean much to many people here, but I think it is something to consider.

No, it's not something to consider, much like endorsements from hollywood celebrities or evangelist preachers mean nothing. Their opinions are worth something when it comes to their field of study. Outside of that area, it means nothing.

Look at it this way instead of your hollywood example.

These people are leaders in their field. They want more money for R&D, grants, and other scientific ventures. The fact that so many of them endorse one option says that they believe that person will help them advance their respective fields.

Nations that have great scientific minds, and is a leader in the scientific arena usually are some of the most successful nations. So their endorsement for Obama can infer that they believe he will help fund scientific reasearch.

...and that is something that all of us should want. No one here likes shitty special interest funding that does little to nothing to help out the majority of this country. However, we all love it when money is spent that really does help advance us and this is a special interest group that can really do a lot to make that happen. They are a special interest group that is "for the people" so to speak. Why some of you are rejecting this idea goes way beyond my understanding especially when considering the number of other shitty special interest groups out there that don't do jack for us.

Think of it this way. If they were endorsing McCain would you guys still have a problem with it and find it irrelevant or can you only see it as an opportunity to go up?
 

aceO07

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Originally posted by: loki8481
not to take away from their intelligence, but I wouldn't trust a bunch of chemists and medics with choosing the leader of the free world. all I really read in their endorsement is "Obama's going to give us the most money."

They're not just any 'bunch of chemists and medics'...

Even if that was their motive, I wouldn't mind more money being spend on the sciences. More discoveries and advancements would be a good thing.

 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: Mursilis
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa

I doubt that this will mean much to many people here, but I think it is something to consider.

No, it's not something to consider, much like endorsements from hollywood celebrities or evangelist preachers mean nothing. Their opinions are worth something when it comes to their field of study. Outside of that area, it means nothing.
Yeah, keep telling yourself that and leave the decisions to the people with IQ's > 130. Thanks.

Some estimates of Hitler's IQ have it above 130 (Link), and actual U.S. Army testing of various high-level Nazis also suggest 130+ IQs (Link2). Obviously, a person can have a genius level mind and a screwy moral compass. I'm filing these endorsements under "irrelevant".

Wow. We went from Nobel Laureates to Hollywood to the Nazis. I'm speechless and embarrassed.