74% of births in Parkland public hospital in Dallas Tx are by ILLEGAL moms

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If you enter the United States illegally you are here illegally. There is no illegal birth, just the birth of an American citizen to an Illegal immigrant. JoS you're above such retarded posts, I expect more from you.

BTW, does anyone else find it funny that the same people that defend illegal immigration and illegal immigrants are the same people that will be like "BUT LOOK AT SO AND SO THEY DON'T HAVE GUNS!" or "LOOK AT SO AND SO THEY HAVE SOCIALIZED MEDICINE AND IT WORKS!" yet if you point to any one of those nations they would not be able to say "LOOK THEY HAVE AN ILLEGAL PROBLEM AND IT WORKS!" because no other country on the planet concedes what we do to invaders.

I asked if there was such a thing as an illegal mum, if she gives birth to a child, will she be illegal while the child is legal? It was an honest fucking question twat and you could have answered it but i'm fairly sure you didn't because you don't know.

The rest of your drivel is... are you sure you have taken the medication you should have taken?

I recommend a shot of subutex to keep your heroin rage out of your posts.
 

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I asked if there was such a thing as an illegal mum, if she gives birth to a child, will she be illegal while the child is legal? It was an honest fucking question twat and you could have answered it but i'm fairly sure you didn't because you don't know.

The rest of your drivel is... are you sure you have taken the medication you should have taken?

I recommend a shot of subutex to keep your heroin rage out of your posts.

Yes, she is still illegal, but we don't deport them because we don't want to care for the crotch fruit that they just squirt out.
 
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Yes, she is still illegal, but we don't deport them because we don't want to care for the crotch fruit that they just squirt out.

Thank you for that answer.

Well that sucks, doesn't it? Isn't that part of the problem though? The limbo ones, who are not legal but who you don't want to deport?

I think the laws should keep it clear and either deem both as a family illegals or legal.

I do detest the way you proclaim that they reproduce. As a Jew i know quite a lot about the Nazis and what you just said is like something Göring would have proclaimed "they are not daughters and sons of people, they are the vegetables the *inferiors* (there is not really a good translation for it) grow.

Let me ask you this, whatever the child born may come from or which parents it has, is it per definition different because of nationality of it's parents according to you?

It sure as fuck sounds like that is what you are hinting at.

I'd despise you but i'm used to your kind, extremists are all the same.
 

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Thank you for that answer.

Well that sucks, doesn't it? Isn't that part of the problem though? The limbo ones, who are not legal but who you don't want to deport?

I think the laws should keep it clear and either deem both as a family illegals or legal.

I do detest the way you proclaim that they reproduce. As a Jew i know quite a lot about the Nazis and what you just said is like something Göring would have proclaimed "they are not daughters and sons of people, they are the vegetables the *inferiors* (there is not really a good translation for it) grow.

Let me ask you this, whatever the child born may come from or which parents it has, is it per definition different because of nationality of it's parents according to you?

It sure as fuck sounds like that is what you are hinting at.

I'd despise you but i'm used to your kind, extremists are all the same.
Huh? As a Jew, you know a lot about jews. You probably know very little about Nazis.
 

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Thank you for that answer.

Well that sucks, doesn't it? Isn't that part of the problem though? The limbo ones, who are not legal but who you don't want to deport?

I think the laws should keep it clear and either deem both as a family illegals or legal.

I do detest the way you proclaim that they reproduce. As a Jew i know quite a lot about the Nazis and what you just said is like something Göring would have proclaimed "they are not daughters and sons of people, they are the vegetables the *inferiors* (there is not really a good translation for it) grow.

Let me ask you this, whatever the child born may come from or which parents it has, is it per definition different because of nationality of it's parents according to you?

It sure as fuck sounds like that is what you are hinting at.

I'd despise you but i'm used to your kind, extremists are all the same.

Considering my live in girlfriend is Mexican/Thai (and my previous one Columbian), I'm pretty sure I have a handle on the "If they aren't Irish, then fuck them" mentality that all the other Irish people you have ever met seem to have.

IMO, if you repair the anchor law that is being exploited (similar to how you would repair a law that allowed a business to operate in a way we did not intend), then deny them social services and fine the crap out of a business for hiring them without checking immigration status.

This is how I would do it :

1) Create a computerized/phone system for checking immigration status. Needs to be reliable like a social security number check. Also needs to be able to notify employers if immigration status changes.
2) Create a system for people to be here on work/student/vacation/other visas that is quick turn around times (basically the DMV in reverse).
3) Remove the anchor baby issue. Make it so that you MUST be here legally as a citizen (naturalized or not) to get citizenship.
4) Cut off ALL social services (with the obvious exception of urgent life-saving care).
5) Take 1/2 year of a business's profits if they hire illegally. 1 year for second offense. Take the business and liquidate it for the 3rd infraction. This would only apply to branches of a store, ie - wal-mart would have to close the one store.. not all of wal-mart.
6) Track immigrants. Workers can have the visa extended or, like now, denied if we have high unemployment.
7) After 3 years, let them apply for citizenship. Make this take ALOT less time. Even a misdemeanor charge will have your immigration status revoked. DUI? Gone. Speeding ticket? Ok.

Not perfect, but (IMO) alot better than what we currently have.
 
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Huh? As a Jew, you know a lot about jews. You probably know very little about Nazis.

Really? As a Brittish Jew i dont' know about Nazis?

Don't kid yourself, it's only the US that has a school that denies all culpability throughout history, other countries don't do that, well i guess there are nations in Africa and places like Iran who do it too but seriously, do you want them brought up in the same mention?

I know very well about the Nazis, my grandparents on both sides all had the tattoos, were all saved by one man to Finland, were all welcome in the UK.

Now what, you stupid twat? You want to discuss doctrine?

"The efficiency of the truly national leader consists primarily in preventing the division of the attention of a people, and always in concentrating it on a single enemy." - Adolf Hitler

This time it's illegals, last time it was arabs.
 

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Ok people. If you have personal issues with other poster(s), take it to PM. I don't want the mods lock this thread.

Kappo - you do have some good ideas but why should ILLEGALS be ahead of the line toward US citizenship? If they want to be LEGAL/US citizen, they need to get to the back of the line behind the LEGALS that are waiting for years (note the plural). No more reward for being ILLEGALS.
 
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Considering my live in girlfriend is Mexican/Thai (and my previous one Columbian), I'm pretty sure I have a handle on the "If they aren't Irish, then fuck them" mentality that all the other Irish people you have ever met seem to have.

IMO, if you repair the anchor law that is being exploited (similar to how you would repair a law that allowed a business to operate in a way we did not intend), then deny them social services and fine the crap out of a business for hiring them without checking immigration status.

This is how I would do it :

1) Create a computerized/phone system for checking immigration status. Needs to be reliable like a social security number check. Also needs to be able to notify employers if immigration status changes.
2) Create a system for people to be here on work/student/vacation/other visas that is quick turn around times (basically the DMV in reverse).
3) Remove the anchor baby issue. Make it so that you MUST be here legally as a citizen (naturalized or not) to get citizenship.
4) Cut off ALL social services (with the obvious exception of urgent life-saving care).
5) Take 1/2 year of a business's profits if they hire illegally. 1 year for second offense. Take the business and liquidate it for the 3rd infraction. This would only apply to branches of a store, ie - wal-mart would have to close the one store.. not all of wal-mart.
6) Track immigrants. Workers can have the visa extended or, like now, denied if we have high unemployment.
7) After 3 years, let them apply for citizenship. Make this take ALOT less time. Even a misdemeanor charge will have your immigration status revoked. DUI? Gone. Speeding ticket? Ok.

Not perfect, but (IMO) alot better than what we currently have.

That would be against international law because it would affect refugees also, now i kow you don't have many of those, the overwhelming majority from Bosnia, Kosovo, Iraq and Afghanistan come to Europe but i'm sure that some person at some time who is a refugee must get there, even if he's lost on a boat heading for England and then what?

I kind of agree with all of your points though, actually, if there was even a possibility for mexican legal immigration this would be plausible, as it is, it isn't.

Start at the bottom, i agree with everything else.
 

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Really? As a Brittish Jew i dont' know about Nazis?

Don't kid yourself, it's only the US that has a school that denies all culpability throughout history, other countries don't do that, well i guess there are nations in Africa and places like Iran who do it too but seriously, do you want them brought up in the same mention?

I know very well about the Nazis, my grandparents on both sides all had the tattoos, were all saved by one man to Finland, were all welcome in the UK.

Now what, you stupid twat? You want to discuss doctrine?

"The efficiency of the truly national leader consists primarily in preventing the division of the attention of a people, and always in concentrating it on a single enemy." - Adolf Hitler

This time it's illegals, last time it was arabs.

Uh, the very first thing you learn as a kid here is how we took the US from the Indians....

And by your own definition, we have multiple enemies, yet you are calling them single? You guys have shitty public schools.
 

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uh JoS, I did answer your question. re-read what i typed. i even wrote it in your native language :)
 
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Uh, the very first thing you learn as a kid here is how we took the US from the Indians....

And by your own definition, we have multiple enemies, yet you are calling them single? You guys have shitty public schools.

Comprehension isn't your strongest suit i take it...

Try again.
 

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That would be against international law because it would affect refugees also, now i kow you don't have many of those, the overwhelming majority from Bosnia, Kosovo, Iraq and Afghanistan come to Europe but i'm sure that some person at some time who is a refugee must get there, even if he's lost on a boat heading for England and then what?

I kind of agree with all of your points though, actually, if there was even a possibility for mexican legal immigration this would be plausible, as it is, it isn't.

Start at the bottom, i agree with everything else.

I'm not racist, so the venue I have provided includes everyone. Are you hinting that it should be ONLY mexicans that are allowed in?

BTW, refugees are a whole different deal. Refugee status affords you almost the same rights as a US citizen. You wouldn't even need to change the law for it.
 

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Ok people. If you have personal issues with other poster(s), take it to PM. I don't want the mods lock this thread.

Kappo - you do have some good ideas but why should ILLEGALS be ahead of the line toward US citizenship? If they want to be LEGAL/US citizen, they need to get to the back of the line behind the LEGALS that are waiting for years (note the plural). No more reward for being ILLEGALS.

I didn't lay out a plan for illegals :p That's just immigration status. If you remove the care and work from anyone here illegally, they will go away. The ones that don't are criminals which are easy to deport as they get caught.
 

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"The efficiency of the truly national leader consists primarily in preventing the division of the attention of a people, and always in concentrating it on a single enemy." - Adolf Hitler

This time it's illegals, last time it was arabs.

Comparing Obama to Hitler again? Racist.
 
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I'm not racist, so the venue I have provided includes everyone. Are you hinting that it should be ONLY mexicans that are allowed in?

BTW, refugees are a whole different deal. Refugee status affords you almost the same rights as a US citizen. You wouldn't even need to change the law for it.

A defence against an accusation never made is commonly referred to as an admittance of guilt from where i come from (yes, we do run you down in every single way we can).

I would say that as it stands today Mexicans have NO opportunity to legally become citisens of the US.

Refugees are what you don't have to deal with but piss all over Europe because we are not as keen about paying them to fight our police forces anymore.

I have a great idea, we need workers, you love refugees from your war zones, let's fucking SWITCH!
 

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A defence against an accusation never made is commonly referred to as an admittance of guilt from where i come from (yes, we do run you down in every single way we can).

I would say that as it stands today Mexicans have NO opportunity to legally become citisens of the US.

Refugees are what you don't have to deal with but piss all over Europe because we are not as keen about paying them to fight our police forces anymore.

I have a great idea, we need workers, you love refugees from your war zones, let's fucking SWITCH!

My girlfriend's mom disagrees. I can't help you on your refugee issue, but I can say that telling someone no in order to keep your own affairs in order is not evil. It sucks that they need somewhere to go, but sometimes it just can't be helped.
 

Svnla

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Shut it Nazi boi.

I was called "racist" earlier in this thread and now "nazi"? LOL, I am not white, try again. And if I don't? Oh, you are going to beat me up with your military madz skillz :D

Now let get back to our regular schedule programming..which is about ILLEGALS.
 
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My girlfriend's mom disagrees. I can't help you on your refugee issue, but I can say that telling someone no in order to keep your own affairs in order is not evil. It sucks that they need somewhere to go, but sometimes it just can't be helped.

Yeah, let's nitpick about this, compared to Asians it's less than a few, but there is a few every year.

Compared to India... it's not even fucking close, anyone from India gets a citizenship as soon as the company they work from wants one.

It's fairly impossible to get a citizenship as a Mexican but if you arrive as a Chinese, you will probably get one even if you don't want to.

See Brown people are the enemy these days.
 
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I was called "racist" earlier in this thread and now "nazi"? LOL, I am not white, try again. And if I don't? Oh, you are going to beat me up with your military madz skillz :D

Now let get back to our regular schedule programming..which is about ILLEGALS.

AGAIN:

"The efficiency of the truly national leader consists primarily in preventing the division of the attention of a people, and always in concentrating it on a single enemy." - Adolf Hitler

See, they have you all rallying around a common enemy now, who gives a fuck about anything else, if we just get rid of these people then all else will be fixed....

Perhaps spending should be cut and taxes should be raised to deal with the deficiet? Perhaps it has NOTHING to do with illegals at all?

Nah, you got your enemy and it's easier to blame them than it is to stand up for your own mistakes, isn't it?
 

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Yeah, let's nitpick about this, compared to Asians it's less than a few, but there is a few every year.

Compared to India... it's not even fucking close, anyone from India gets a citizenship as soon as the company they work from wants one.

It's fairly impossible to get a citizenship as a Mexican but if you arrive as a Chinese, you will probably get one even if you don't want to.

See Brown people are the enemy these days.

Indians aren't brown? Since when?
 

Kappo

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AGAIN:

"The efficiency of the truly national leader consists primarily in preventing the division of the attention of a people, and always in concentrating it on a single enemy." - Adolf Hitler

See, they have you all rallying around a common enemy now, who gives a fuck about anything else, if we just get rid of these people then all else will be fixed....

Perhaps spending should be cut and taxes should be raised to deal with the deficiet? Perhaps it has NOTHING to do with illegals at all?

Nah, you got your enemy and it's easier to blame them than it is to stand up for your own mistakes, isn't it?

Where in any thread did anyone ever say "This is our only issue in the US"? This board would be devoid of any other threads... WTB more funding for British public schools!