Thank you for that answer.
Well that sucks, doesn't it? Isn't that part of the problem though? The limbo ones, who are not legal but who you don't want to deport?
I think the laws should keep it clear and either deem both as a family illegals or legal.
I do detest the way you proclaim that they reproduce. As a Jew i know quite a lot about the Nazis and what you just said is like something Göring would have proclaimed "they are not daughters and sons of people, they are the vegetables the *inferiors* (there is not really a good translation for it) grow.
Let me ask you this, whatever the child born may come from or which parents it has, is it per definition different because of nationality of it's parents according to you?
It sure as fuck sounds like that is what you are hinting at.
I'd despise you but i'm used to your kind, extremists are all the same.
Considering my live in girlfriend is Mexican/Thai (and my previous one Columbian), I'm pretty sure I have a handle on the "If they aren't Irish, then fuck them" mentality that all the other Irish people you have ever met seem to have.
IMO, if you repair the anchor law that is being exploited (similar to how you would repair a law that allowed a business to operate in a way we did not intend), then deny them social services and fine the crap out of a business for hiring them without checking immigration status.
This is how I would do it :
1) Create a computerized/phone system for checking immigration status. Needs to be reliable like a social security number check. Also needs to be able to notify employers if immigration status changes.
2) Create a system for people to be here on work/student/vacation/other visas that is quick turn around times (basically the DMV in reverse).
3) Remove the anchor baby issue. Make it so that you MUST be here legally as a citizen (naturalized or not) to get citizenship.
4) Cut off ALL social services (with the obvious exception of urgent life-saving care).
5) Take 1/2 year of a business's profits if they hire illegally. 1 year for second offense. Take the business and liquidate it for the 3rd infraction. This would only apply to branches of a store, ie - wal-mart would have to close the one store.. not all of wal-mart.
6) Track immigrants. Workers can have the visa extended or, like now, denied if we have high unemployment.
7) After 3 years, let them apply for citizenship. Make this take ALOT less time. Even a misdemeanor charge will have your immigration status revoked. DUI? Gone. Speeding ticket? Ok.
Not perfect, but (IMO) alot better than what we currently have.