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I think it's worse for the tires than the tranny. I could very well be wrong. But if it really concerns you then you have to ask yourself if it's completely necessary to peel out like that on a constant basis. I have a heavy ass truck and I can beat most people from a dead stop without a problem.
 

cbsmith

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It creates a lot of heat in the tranny. If you do it a lot it will definately shorten the life of the transmission.


Chris
 

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It's very bad for the transmission. It heats the tranny up quite a bit, especially if done for long periods or repeatedly. It does make an automatic car accelerate faster, though. Just remember.......you gotta pay if you want to play.
 

Ornery

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If you would buy a car with some low end torque, you wouldn't have to play these games. Just mash the pedal and hope your rear tires have enough grip on that surface. Besides, I thought gokarts were all about handling the twisties and all that rot! What do you care about straight line racing? :D
 

veryape

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It just puts a lot of added stress on the gears, and if you spin tires frequently your brakes take a beating.

You won't notice any difficulties with the transmission until it actually breaks teeth off of a gear and then you'll regret doing it, since it really doesn't do much but get you off the line a titnipple quicker.

I'd not do it if I were driving a newer car. It's okay to do in old cars with big motors and strong trannies, but nowadays these little cars just aren't built for that kind of torture.
 

Chris A

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Your clutch plates have a surface material thais about .040 thick.. Go to a trany shop and ask to see a old clutch plate and then look at all the cars lined up to be worked on... Average tranny rebuild is aroung a grand... Front wheel drive can be more..
 

TekViper

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your also destroying the torque converter like nothing else...and those things are not cheap at all.
 

mAdD INDIAN

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Its bad if you brake torque for extended period of time. If you press the brakes for a few seconds while reving up to 2k rpm adn then let go of the brakes then its ok. Just don't hold the brakes for more than two seconds. Basically what this does is pre-load the torque converter.

Ornery: I don't need to brake torque to break the wheels in my Japanese sedan....hehe..just mash the pedal!
 

geno

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Ornery - "makeshift" head gasket repair? :p Please tell me this involves duct tape! heheh What exactly did you do to "repair" it?
 

Ornery

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I poured some K&W Permanent Metallic® Block Seal in the coolent, following the instructions exactly... and it worked! Don't know how long it will last, but it's getting me back and forth to work so far. We're in a little money squeeze right now, or I'd replace it.
 

BlackOmen

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I'm assuming that your new car is FWD. In that case, DON"T DO IT. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!1 FWD trannies are not cheap to get rebuilt. And on newer computer controlled transmissions, the erbuild will be about 2500 (for instance my dad's 1998 Mercury). On my mom's 1994 Cavalier, it was 1500. These transmissions weren't made for that kind of abuse.

If you want to do this, buy a camaro, mustang, or anything made before 1972. The engine makes boatloads of torque, and the transmissions are tanks. And if they do break, they are cheap to rebuild or even buy a remanufactured trans. A remanufactured C4 with a performance build cost my friend 700 bucks (and that includes labor) 3 years ago.

so for the love of your car, stop.
 

db

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It may help a little if you get more trans oil cooling. But nevertheless, you will be wearing out the trans sooner.
 

Ornery

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[/i]hey ornery, what do you drive and how fast is it?"[/i]

It's a PIG! and it never went that fast, even in it's prime. That didn't stop me from running the piss out of it, though. This car had two speeds, fast and stop. I NEVER slow down for railroad tracks, potholes or curbs. I used to baby it, but when it became a daily driver, it got DRIVEN!

I had a 1978 Town Car that really did move. It had the same engine (460ci), tranny and everything, but it put this one to shame. From what I've read, Ford changed the cam from '77 to '78 and it made a hell of a difference. I bought it used for $3,000 and drove it HARD for seven years. Rust finally got to it... :(

 

Phunktion

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For the love of God man get a stick shift!!!!

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I'm serious though.. Automatics were not built to impress with speed tricks (excluding perhaps newer sportmatic ones).. in a stick shift you can impress people all you want by peeling out at insane speeds or/and screeching your tires with little if any damage to the car if you know how to do it properly..
 
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<< For the love of God man get a stick shift!!!! >>


Great advice.
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So instead of getting the entire trans replaced (or just the torque converter), he'll get just the clutch replaced.

A manual is no more safe when doing heavy burnouts. A clutch rebuild will run about $700-1000. Sure its less than a tran rebuild, but its still a decent amount of money.
 

Ornery

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1973 Lincoln Town Car 460ci 0-60 10.4, 1/4 mile 17.6

Now that year was pretty heavy compared to mine, which is also very heavy. In it's day, the '77 would beat that. I've removed all the extraneous EGR, air pump, cat convertors (hollowed out), and other junk. It still couldn't touch my '78 with all that crap intact. It burned quite a few pseudo racers, but I had my ass handed to me by an MR2 once. Left my jock in the blocks for sure! :Q
 

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<< hahaha, ok thanks guys I won't do it anymore. Or atleast only when there are no girls to impress. :D


hey ornery, what do you drive and how fast is it :p
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Oh girls are impressed by reckless driving and immature driving? :cool:


Actually every auto tranny has stall RPM and you do exactly this to test the stall RPM. Put it in gear, hold the brake and mash the throttle.

If you don't hold it in too long your transmission won't over heat.

Peeling out actually reduces your acceleartion. You get the best acceleration right before tire peels out.

 

Ultima

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<<

<< For the love of God man get a stick shift!!!! >>


Great advice.
rolleye.gif
So instead of getting the entire trans replaced (or just the torque converter), he'll get just the clutch replaced.

A manual is no more safe when doing heavy burnouts. A clutch rebuild will run about $700-1000. Sure its less than a tran rebuild, but its still a decent amount of money.
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wtf? I've seen new clutches for sale that run far less than that, my friend has a car with 190000 miles on it and he does heavy acceleration from time to time and the clutch doesn't slip yet.
 

RambleOn

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My 97 Silverado with a 350 Vortec has no problem peeling out. Occasionally I'll hold the brake to keep it in place and mash the gas then immediately let off the brake and it stays in place burning out, but I don't do this kind of teenager stuff often, tires are too expensive.