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727 HP mustang for $40K

There's no way they'll be able to do that with any sort of volume (essentially installing the kit for free), but that's a hell of a bargain. Congratulations to those who got in on it early but I have the feeling the price is about to rise $5K-$10K per car.
 
It's official. The greatest era of high HP cars has finally arrived. The late 60's has finally been eclipsed. This is affordable power for the average Joe/Jane instead of being more than most people make in a year.
 
There's no way they'll be able to do that with any sort of volume (essentially installing the kit for free)...

Well I don't know. The story makes it seem like they get full sticker for the car itself plus whatever markup is in the hardware.

There are bound to be times when mechanics are clocked in but don't have work to do. If they use some of that time for the installation that would further reduce additional labor costs. The article doesn't say how long they take to do an install so maybe instead of getting it done in a few days they take 3 weeks?

I am thinking even with the free labor they still make a reasonable profit on each one sold.

-KeithP
 
playing around with the " build your own" on the Ford website and it seems that 315 limited slip rear axle ratio is standard but for $400 you can get 355 limited slip. With the 727hp would the 355's be waste? This car probably will have a hard enough time hooking up even with 315's
 
Well I don't know. The story makes it seem like they get full sticker for the car itself plus whatever markup is in the hardware.

There are bound to be times when mechanics are clocked in but don't have work to do. If they use some of that time for the installation that would further reduce additional labor costs. The article doesn't say how long they take to do an install so maybe instead of getting it done in a few days they take 3 weeks?

I am thinking even with the free labor they still make a reasonable profit on each one sold.

-KeithP

Sure, until several hundred gearheads read this article and immediately call to order their $40K Roush GT. Then the 3 weeks becomes a year...and that's why I said "with any sort of volume".
 
Well I don't know. The story makes it seem like they get full sticker for the car itself plus whatever markup is in the hardware.

There are bound to be times when mechanics are clocked in but don't have work to do. If they use some of that time for the installation that would further reduce additional labor costs. The article doesn't say how long they take to do an install so maybe instead of getting it done in a few days they take 3 weeks?

I am thinking even with the free labor they still make a reasonable profit on each one sold.

-KeithP

Not technically "free" labor. What the dealer actually pays on base model GT is probably around $23k. The roush kit is another $6-7K dealer cost. Install is around $1500.- I'd say they are making a tidy profit.
 
Horsepower is psychotically cheap. It seems like it has blown up in the past 3-4 years. I am okay with this.
I'm also ok with this as well. Just wish high horsepower cars came with some sort of HPDE. Most people don't know how to handle all the power...
 
It's official. The greatest era of high HP cars has finally arrived. The late 60's has finally been eclipsed. This is affordable power for the average Joe/Jane instead of being more than most people make in a year.

Been here since the mid 00's.
Read an article in hot rod magazine. They put the 3 fastest muscle cars ever (Hemi cuda, L82 corvette and a boss 429 mustang up against a Camaro SS, Mustang GT and Challenger RT (your base performance models) on a chassis dyno.
The old muscle cars all made around 280hp to the rear wheels, the new ones all made around 380. This is comparing the best of the old (these cars had a premium price, most could not afford) with the base of the new. Apples to apples would be comparing those old cars to a Hellcat, GT500 and ZL1, there we are 300 ponies difference.
The old cars rated brake horsepower horsepower at the flywheel. engine was run on a stand with no exhaust or accessories on it. They were also rated in B.H.P. horsepower (brake). The new rating system is S.A.E. net. And it is a lot more stringent, that is why you see the difference.
The new cars are also lower cubic inch small blocks kicking the crap out of big displacement big blocks.
I've got a Gen1 383 stroker in my race car, done. The specs on my 2012 Camaro SS engine are better than anything you can even buy aftermarket. For instance, the stock SS 6.2l heads flow 330cfm. The best race heads you can buy for a gen1 small block (Brodix stage IV) flow about 270cfm. Biggest intake valve you could fit in the old heads was 2.08" (Aftermarket, largest they came with was 2.05 my SS stock intake valves are 2.16".
 
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There's no way they'll be able to do that with any sort of volume (essentially installing the kit for free), but that's a hell of a bargain. Congratulations to those who got in on it early but I have the feeling the price is about to rise $5K-$10K per car.


I posted this in the z06 vs camaro thread. Read the link. It's a base Stang at 24K with the 12K supercharger. It's a lot of silly high HP, but it's not exactly the best idea lol. 727hp in a stock stang gt. Hooyah? They're selling them at cost basically. However no one would be stupid enough to buy one w/o dropping another 10K-20K into supporting mods. And that's where they get ya.
 
And be the laughing stock of every C&C meet?

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