pcgeek11
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Perhaps it is time to look at ourselves when we quest for improvement instead of finding fault in others.
Perhaps, you may be correct.
Perhaps it is time to look at ourselves when we quest for improvement instead of finding fault in others.
That’s not how liability works. In a first responder or medical emergency scenario, a paramedic or firefighter or ER doctor is not responsible if someone dies despite their best efforts under the circumstances. As more information comes out, it appears that the sequence of events don’t exactly align to the initial knee jerk reactions. Period.Doesn't matter what the father says and it sure as he'll doesn't matter what the lawyers say, the child died in the custody of the border patrol, period. If they're not willing to accept the responsibility, don't do the job.
Border Patrol was there, in the middle of nowhere, RESCUING 163 people from the wilderness.
They did their job.
She died while in transport to the very services they are responsible for.
Stop listening to the hate filled propaganda. The narrative that they killed her is FALSE.
The girl’s father does not hold the border agents liable. Also lawyers for the father are now stating she had ample food and water.
It has nothing to do with propaganda, it has to do with responsibility. Of course they didn't "kill her." She did die under their custody and I believe they could have done more. They don't get a free pass because they were doing their job. They are responsible .Border Patrol was there, in the middle of nowhere, RESCUING 163 people from the wilderness.
They did their job.
She died while in transport to the very services they are responsible for.
Stop listening to the hate filled propaganda. The narrative that they killed her is FALSE.
Family lawyers say there was plenty of water. Try again with your hate mongering.
A paramedic or ER doc doesn't have custody.That’s not how liability works. In a first responder or medical emergency scenario, a paramedic or firefighter or ER doctor is not responsible if someone dies despite their best efforts under the circumstances. As more information comes out, it appears that the sequence of events don’t exactly align to the initial knee jerk reactions. Period.
A paramedic or ER doc doesn't have custody.
So if a child riding his bike gets hit by a car, and paramedics arrive and load him into an ambulance, who has custody?A paramedic or ER doc doesn't have custody.
So if a child riding his bike gets hit by a car, and paramedics arrive and load him into an ambulance, who has custody?
On my planet, people don’t jump to conclusions before all the facts are known. We also don’t politicize the deaths of children.That's a rather interesting statement. Can you imagine any other scenario, where what one parent believes, releases a custodian from any liability?
Well gee your honor, I don't really hold my wife responsible for forcing little Suzy to drink the bleach, therefore she shouldn't suffer any consequences.
That might work on your home world, but unfortunately, this is earth.
On my planet, people don’t jump to conclusions before all the facts are known. We also don’t politicize the deaths of children.
Thanks!
Then direct your anger at Trump and not the first responders who, based on updated information, did pretty much all we could expect under the circumstances.Really you stupid mother fucker? Trump's actions are the very definition of politicizing these people up to and including this and any other death.
Thanks!
Then direct your anger at Trump and not the first responders who, based on updated information, did pretty much all we could expect under the circumstances.
If an investigation reveals negligence on the part of the first responders, then they should be held liable and accountable.
On my planet, people don’t jump to conclusions before all the facts are known. We also don’t politicize the deaths of children.
The agents were the first to respond, and per the father’s account, they did what they could under the circumstances. Again, direct your anger at a policy that is forcing desperate people to risk a dangerous desert crossing.the agents arent the first responders. They felt no duty to provide real assisitance to these people. Nor did they have the resources available to deal with this manufactured political crisis.
The parents.So if a child riding his bike gets hit by a car, and paramedics arrive and load him into an ambulance, who has custody?
This isn't about anger, policies or, politics. It's about responsibility. The border patrol had responsibility.The agents were the first to respond, and per the father’s account, they did what they could under the circumstances. Again, direct your anger at a policy that is forcing desperate people to risk a dangerous desert crossing.
The agents were the first to respond, and per the father’s account, they did what they could under the circumstances. Again, direct your anger at a policy that is forcing desperate people to risk a dangerous desert crossing.
That is a political response, because you are making this death a political referendum against Trump. I have no doubt that Trumpers feel no remorse over this death. A decent human being President would address this as a tragedy. But border crossing deaths have been happening at a steady pace since the late 80s. Desert crossings are treacherous and deadly no matter who occupies the White House.I'm not the one that made the death a political one, that would be Republicant's Lord and Savior Donny.
In his eyes, and those of his cult, this is not the death of a child.
It's the death of an "enemy invader", and no skin off his nose. Just the cost of doing business.
Responsibility starts and ends with the father. The border patrol may be accountable if they denied aid, but its ridiculous to expect them to triage a medical situation that did not immediately manifest itself.This isn't about anger, policies or, politics. It's about responsibility. The border patrol had responsibility.
What we know is that the father claims she was healthy prior to crossing a fvcking desert, because that is what responsible fathers do. We also know the border patrol intercepted the group, and initially rendered what aid they could. Everything else is speculation.the agents arent first responders. ie medical professionals. The family disputes the official story btw...
enjoy the steady stream of information that will make you feel uncomfortable about your position
https://www.wmur.com/article/family...disputes-official-story-on-her-death/25593314
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...e-arrived-father-says/?utm_term=.8b8b3228672b
They don’t have physical custody, and I doubt they would hold the paramedics responsible if the child died despite their best efforts.The parents.
That is a political response, because you are making this death a political referendum against Trump. I have no doubt that Trumpers feel no remorse over this death. A decent human being President would address this as a tragedy. But border crossing deaths have been happening at a steady pace since the late 80s. Desert crossings are treacherous and deadly no matter who occupies the White House.
Responsibility starts and ends with the father. The border patrol may be accountable if they denied aid, but its ridiculous to expect them to triage a medical situation that did not immediately manifest itself.
What we know is that the father claims she was healthy prior to crossing a fvcking desert, because that is what responsible fathers do. We also know the border patrol intercepted the group, and initially rendered what aid they could. Everything else is speculation.
