7-11 now charging for the plastic bags they put your items in??

[lxskllr]

I do, however, enjoy shopping at Aldis - where they do charge you for the bags (but allow you to use their excess boxes to take your groceries out.) It's nice to be able to pack up about 3 boxes and only need 3 trips in from the car. And, one of the reasons products are cheaper at Aldis is that they pass on the savings to the customers.

Everything about Aldi rocks. They stripped the concept of the grocery store down to the essential bits, and as long as you value function over form, Aldi provides the best shopping experience.

 

[zinfamous]

Why would I want to use resuable cloth bags, get them dirty, use the energy to clean them, the hot water, the detergent, etc? I don't want meat juices soaked into my cloth bag and then have the bags sitting in a nice 74 degree house for a week plus at a time.

No you shut the fuck up, you don't get to decide what bags I use and charge a TAX for a FREAKING BAG.

Like I said, keep this shit up and I will waste even more energy and pollute even more to avoid it based on principle alone. You do NOT get to dictate how I live or what resources I use. I do.

you've been paying for the bags all along.

where was the rage then?

Oh, you now see this as government stepping all over your wang, rather than the God-loving private business nickle-and-diming you, which is OK, apparently. Same cost, same "tax" as it always has been, only in your mind:

guvment = debil
business = great for humanity.

 

[spidey07]

you've been paying for the bags all along.

where was the rage then?

Oh, you now see this as government stepping all over your wang, rather than the God-loving private business nickle-and-diming you, which is OK, apparently. Same cost, same "tax" as it always has been, only in your mind:

guvment = debil
business = great for humanity.

This is a TAX of 5 cents per bag ABOVE AND BEYOND the cost of the bags themselves. The business don't get this tax money, government does.

For you not to understand the difference says a lot.

It's a tax, that money goes to government, it's a tax. There's a HUGE difference between companies charging what they want in a competitive market and government stealing money from customers DIRECTLY.

 

[zinfamous]

This is a TAX of 5 cents per bag ABOVE AND BEYOND the cost of the bags themselves. The business don't get this tax money, government does.

For you not to understand the difference says a lot.

It's a tax, that money goes to government, it's a tax. There's a HUGE difference between companies charging what they want in a competitive market and government stealing money from customers DIRECTLY.

so, rather than use canvas bags like more and more people have been moving to over the previous decade, and washing them if you must--to avoid this evil god-hating tax--you'd just rather not take on the personal responsibility you cherish so much and claim that people are forcing you down a road, which, you never actually had to be forced down?

 

[spidey07]

so, rather than use canvas bags like more and more people have been moving to over the previous decade, and washing them if you must--to avoid this evil god-hating tax--you'd just rather not take on the personal responsibility you cherish so much and claim that people are forcing you down a road, which, you never actually had to be forced down?

Your WAY off base here on the responsibility aspect. I want plastic bags and the convenience, like you said, I as a paying customer have already been paying for them, but if you charge a TAX on them then I will simply not use local stores anymore on principle alone. And I will tell the store exactly that, I will no longer be shopping here because of the tax and explain to them that elections have consequences. This allows the states and counties to compete for my business, that is my personal responsibility - to punish bad ideas and any that support them.

Anything and everything done "for the environment" costs business and consumers more and as already pointed out bags are not even a problem.

Put two businesses right next to each other, same exact prices, one charges for bags, the other doesn't and bags everything for you (this is America, we want some service). Who do you think will get more business? You libtards couldn't run a freaking lemonade stand. Go live in your regressed cave/shack for evironment sake, but you WILL NOT force me to do the same. This is America.

 

[shortylickens]

was in 7-11 today, ordered a sandwich and a few sodas. when the cashier said i had to pay for two plastic bags, i said.. there is no notice of this anywhere.

after a few mins of arguing, i walked out and left my order behind. my sandwich had oil soaking thru the bag, not going to put that on my car seat or floor mats.

terrible idea 7-11, will never go there again.

You are required to be informed of the law. For example, not knowing the laws concerning trailers does not entitle you to break them nor does the dealer have any obligation to inform you of the laws regarding trailers.
The first time a cop pulls you over you will learn real quick.

Ditto the bags. And any other business or environmental laws 7-11 is required to follow. They dont necessarily have to post the law anywhere. SOME laws do have to be posted, and many of them vary by state. Many states, for example, require posting the legal smoking and drinking age. Also sometimes OSHA or workers rights stuff. Oregon had a lot of those posted at every business.

 

[purbeast0]

so, rather than use canvas bags like more and more people have been moving to over the previous decade, and washing them if you must--to avoid this evil god-hating tax--you'd just rather not take on the personal responsibility you cherish so much and claim that people are forcing you down a road, which, you never actually had to be forced down?

i was a bagger at a grocery store for 8 years through highschool and college, and the people who brought in the cloth/netted bags were the worst. they were dirty filthy people, and those bags were funky as shit. but there were not many of these people at all, and those bags are much tougher to bag in than the paper or plastic bags we offered. it slowed down the efficiency of the store when a customer brought their own bags in.

 

[lxskllr]

i was a bagger at a grocery store for 8 years through highschool and college, and the people who brought in the cloth/netted bags were the worst. they were dirty filthy people, and those bags were funky as shit. but there were not many of these people at all, and those bags are much tougher to bag in than the paper or plastic bags we offered. it slowed down the efficiency of the store when a customer brought their own bags in.

Baggers are slower, and less efficient packers than I am. I'd prefer they helped an old woman or something, and leave the bagging to me. The new carousel style bagging center(Walmart et al) sucks. There's no place to put the groceries, and it slows the process down fourfold.

 

[ShawnD1]

Baggers are slower, and less efficient packers than I am. I'd prefer they helped an old woman or something, and leave the bagging to me. The new carousel style bagging center(Walmart et al) sucks. There's no place to put the groceries, and it slows the process down fourfold.

Grrr bags. I hate Walmart so much. The regular grocery stores are pretty good about checkout lines; there's a big conveyer belt and you bag your own stuff. The cashier does nothing but scan items and ask for money. Walmart's system is horrible. There's 1 cashier in the whole god damn store even if it's boxing day or black friday and they spend half their time bagging the groceries. It takes like 4 hours to buy a loaf of bread.

Costco has it right. No bags. One person scans items and handles money, one person puts the stuff back in your cart. All you do is hand them your card. A costco line with 10 people will finish faster than a Walmart line of 2 people. This is honestly the #1 reason I avoid Walmart when possible.

 

[Slew Foot]

San Jose just enacted this shitty bill. Now I dont shop In San Jose anymore, I just do my shopping while at work or online. Fuck that, not having bags is majorly inconvenient.

 

[lxskllr]

Costco has it right. No bags. One person scans items and handles money, one person puts the stuff back in your cart. All you do is hand them your card. A costco line with 10 people will finish faster than a Walmart line of 2 people. This is honestly the #1 reason I avoid Walmart when possible.

That's what I do at BigLots. They know me there, and don't give me any hassle. They went to the crappy carousel style also, but I just put the stuff in the cart, no bags. All the cashier does is ring it up, and take my money. I put the crap in my car loose, and deal with it when I get home. Plastic bags always dump their contents anyway, so I might as well skip the bag, and get the stuff off the floor as-is.

 

[shortylickens]

Grrr bags. I hate Walmart so much. The regular grocery stores are pretty good about checkout lines; there's a big conveyer belt and you bag your own stuff. The cashier does nothing but scan items and ask for money. Walmart's system is horrible. There's 1 cashier in the whole god damn store even if it's boxing day or black friday and they spend half their time bagging the groceries. It takes like 4 hours to buy a loaf of bread.

Costco has it right. No bags. One person scans items and handles money, one person puts the stuff back in your cart. All you do is hand them your card. A costco line with 10 people will finish faster than a Walmart line of 2 people. This is honestly the #1 reason I avoid Walmart when possible.

I have about 3 major reasons I dont like shopping at Walmart. The new bagging system is relatively minor. But yeah it sucks. The problem is they invested so much money in those stupid things they will probably keep using them until they break. Which could be 10 years from now.

 

[Doppel]

It's a stupid idea, like pissing on a bonfire. It can make people who've driven their 20 mpg vehicle from their climate controlled home feel better that they brought their own hemp bags but fvck's sake it's a joke. The amount of plastic in an actual grocery bag is virtually nil, certainly not even approaching .1% of the total waste a person typically creates.

 

[Lanyap]

The article for Montgomery county says all retail stores. This means every where you go and buy something at a retail store you have to bring your bag or pay for theirs. I could understand grocery stores, but this means Home Depot, Best Buy, drug store (except for prescriptions,) department stores, etc.

I'm sure the local government will spend every penny of this new tax wisely. We know how good they are at that. I wonder how long it will take them to switch the tax income from using it for fighting water pollution to other things.

Of each five cents collected, Montgomery County will get four cents to use in fighting water pollution. Retailers will keep a penny to cover administrative costs.

 

[dan4patriots]

Yeah, good luck with that. Lots of stores have very strict policies about bags. Bags must be left at the front of the store to ensure that you don't steal anything. Try carrying a backpack into Walmart and see if the door man stops you.

i never said backpack- but cloth bag- like the ones walmart themselves has by the checkouts

 

[Pardus]

You are required to be informed of the law. For example, not knowing the laws concerning trailers does not entitle you to break them nor does the dealer have any obligation to inform you of the laws regarding trailers.
The first time a cop pulls you over you will learn real quick.

Ditto the bags. And any other business or environmental laws 7-11 is required to follow. They dont necessarily have to post the law anywhere. SOME laws do have to be posted, and many of them vary by state. Many states, for example, require posting the legal smoking and drinking age. Also sometimes OSHA or workers rights stuff. Oregon had a lot of those posted at every business.

So your comparing knowing the rules of the road vs knowing the polices of 7-11. If any store if going to charge you for using there bags, shopping carts, etc while you the customer is making a purchase, the better fucking inform me ahead of time. I'm giving 7-11 business by making a purchase there, if they choose to penalize there customer's by charging extra for a plastic bag, i'll go elsewhere.

Enough people voice there opinion, instead of acting like sheep, 7-11 will either go bankrupt or change there polices.

What's next, is McDonald's going to charge me extra for a bag, straw, ketchup. It's not the fee, it's the principal. I don't put up with bullshit like that.

 

[Lanyap]

So your comparing knowing the rules of the road vs knowing the polices of 7-11. If any store if going to charge you for using there bags, shopping carts, etc while you the customer is making a purchase, the better fucking inform me ahead of time. I'm giving 7-11 business by making a purchase there, if they choose to penalize there customer's by charging extra for a plastic bag, i'll go elsewhere.

Enough people voice there opinion, instead of acting like sheep, 7-11 will either go bankrupt or change there polices.

What's next, is McDonald's going to charge me extra for a bag, straw, ketchup. It's not the fee, it's the principal. I don't put up with bullshit like that.

If you are living in one of the areas that is now charging a tax for the bags then it's not 7-11's fault. You need to complain to your local government.

 

[yllus]

I live in Toronto, which has had a $0.05 / plastic bag rule for a couple of years now. Once I got over the initial annoyance of something free becoming something I have to pay for, I have to admit that I've become a convert.

Like all other Torontonians, I now have a half dozen reusable bags stored in a drawer at home that I take with me to the supermarket. They're easier on the hands and I get a miniscule amount of satisfaction out of not adding to the pile of plastic bags polluting the environment. And if I've forgotten the bags or am making an impromptu trip, $0.05 is reasonable enough that I don't mind too badly about paying.

That's been the consensus of every person I've ever discussed this topic with locally. The policy works. I know, I was once a big fan of Ayn Rand too, but come on, brothers and sisters! Seatbelts didn't amount to the end of liberty, and neither will this. Get a grip and buy a reusable bag or three.

 

[sdifox]

I live in Toronto, which has had a $0.05 / plastic bag rule for a couple of years now. Once I got over the initial annoyance of something free becoming something I have to pay for, I have to admit that I've become a convert.

Like all other Torontonians, I now have a half dozen reusable bags stored in a drawer at home that I take with me to the supermarket. They're easier on the hands and I get a miniscule amount of satisfaction out of not adding to the pile of plastic bags polluting the environment. And if I've forgotten the bags or am making an impromptu trip, $0.05 is reasonable enough that I don't mind too badly about paying.

That's been the consensus of every person I've ever discussed this topic with locally. The policy works. I know, I was once a big fan of Ayn Rand too, but come on, brothers and sisters! Seatbelts didn't amount to the end of liberty, and neither will this. Get a grip and buy a reusable bag or three.

Or go to supermarkets where they make their empty boxes available, they save money on the recycling too.

 

[lxskllr]

Or go to supermarkets where they make their empty boxes available, they save money on the recycling too.

That's why I like Aldi. Cheap food, and the boxes are infinitely more useful than bags are. I put my recycling crap in them, and put it out for the trash men. No trash can to deal with.

 

[spidey07]

That's why I like Aldi. Cheap food, and the boxes are infinitely more useful than bags are. I put my recycling crap in them, and put it out for the trash men. No trash can to deal with.

I don't recycle either. Biggest scam there ever was.

 

[Gintaras]

Reusable bags, if not cleaned regularly and properly, are pits of germy filth.

Brain without germs won't be able to fight Main Germ - PARANOIA

 

[purbeast0]

The article for Montgomery county says all retail stores. This means every where you go and buy something at a retail store you have to bring your bag or pay for theirs. I could understand grocery stores, but this means Home Depot, Best Buy, drug store (except for prescriptions,) department stores, etc.

I'm sure the local government will spend every penny of this new tax wisely. We know how good they are at that. I wonder how long it will take them to switch the tax income from using it for fighting water pollution to other things.

yea i went to Microcenter tonight to get an SD card, and in the checkout line i saw 4 packs of batteries for 70 cents so I got a few.

i had 4 items total. the cashier never even asked me if i wanted a bag or anything, he simply just handed me my items. it was very odd lol. i had my hoodie on that has a big front pocket in it so I tossed mys tuff in there.

 

[Gintaras]

It's a stupid idea, like pissing on a bonfire. It can make people who've driven their 20 mpg vehicle from their climate controlled home feel better that they brought their own hemp bags but fvck's sake it's a joke. The amount of plastic in an actual grocery bag is virtually nil, certainly not even approaching .1% of the total waste a person typically creates.

For you - being one of those arrogant and ignorant people living on this planet, you could laugh at yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw

I'm not trying to change you, no one will change you, unless you - yourself want to change....

 

[Gintaras]

Paying for plastic bags is a great idea and I've been to several countries where they do this. They want you to bring your own bag. It's better for the environment.

Yeah, but in those countries you can get a plastic bag that you can fill supermarket half-cart of products and bag won't brake....

Bags in US supermarket are like condoms...