7-11 now charging for the plastic bags they put your items in??

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coldmeat

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Why would I want to use resuable cloth bags, get them dirty, use the energy to clean them, the hot water, the detergent, etc? I don't want meat juices soaked into my cloth bag and then have the bags sitting in a nice 74 degree house for a week plus at a time.

You should already be wrapping meat that could leak in the little plastic bags on the rolls.

And even if you did need to wash them, you could just throw them in with your clothes when you do a wash, so it's not like it would use extra detergent/power to clean them.
 

Craig234

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I don't mind them charging for something, but it's pretty ridiculous. Better for the environment? Bullshit. They're easy to recycle (just put them in a bag and bring them to the store every couple weeks). If you throw them away in the garbage it's not any worse than any other plastic. I don't get what the hatred is for plastic bags.

They don't pollute any more than any other inorganic material that's improperly disposed of. Is there a landfill capacity shortage in the US? I don't think so.

If there's any problem, it's with improper disposal, not the bags themselves.

If ignorance paid nickels, you could afford bags easily. Plastic bags are a huge problem.
 

Bateluer

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Jun 23, 2001
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Haven't seen this yet, though Phoenix has been charging food tax for several months now.
 

Modelworks

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Plastic bags are a huge problem.

People are the problem , not the bags. Also there are bags on the market that are biodegradable. If you look at who finances the ads and PR for the re-usable bags it is the bag makers.
 

ShawnD1

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May 24, 2003
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all you complaining- stfu its only .05 and its meant to encourage you to use resuable cloth bags
Yeah, good luck with that. Lots of stores have very strict policies about bags. Bags must be left at the front of the store to ensure that you don't steal anything. Try carrying a backpack into Walmart and see if the door man stops you.
 

darkxshade

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Why would I want to use resuable cloth bags, get them dirty, use the energy to clean them, the hot water, the detergent, etc? I don't want meat juices soaked into my cloth bag and then have the bags sitting in a nice 74 degree house for a week plus at a time.

No you shut the fuck up, you don't get to decide what bags I use and charge a TAX for a FREAKING BAG.

Like I said, keep this shit up and I will waste even more energy and pollute even more to avoid it based on principle alone. You do NOT get to dictate how I live or what resources I use. I do.


I don't get you, you have no problems with Verizon passing on the cost of credit card transaction fees but you're outraged at 5 cent bags? o_O

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2216237
 

lxskllr

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Nov 30, 2004
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I think it's a great idea, if for no other reason, it pisses off the whiny bitches. I've had string bags for about 20 years now. Not different bags. The SAME bags for 20 years. I've taken them camping, they've sat on the floor on my Jeep for months on end, and I've carried car parts in them. They've also never been washed, and somehow I've managed to not get sick from my "filthy germ encrusted" bags. It sure is nice having an immune system. Life must suck for you guys that don't.
 

pmv

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I believe studies have found that the environmental impact of a re-usable cloth bag is about equivalent to 150 single-use plastic carrier bags. But plastic carrier bags tend to get re-used at least once (if only as garbage bags), so you'd have to re-use a cloth bag at least 300 times before it benefited the environment. Trouble is, studies also find that cloth shopping bags get used about 50 times before being lost, broken, or forgotten.

In any case, the environmental cost of a year's worth of shopping bags is only about the same as a single cloth bag, which (I'm guessing) is about the same as a single t-shirt or pair of socks. Which suggests to me that shopping bags are negligable source of enironmental damage and not worth worrying about. Just buy one less pair of socks a year and you're even.


That said, I generally take a rucksack when shopping because its much easier to carry. Most food here is already packaged up so much that I don't find 'germs and dirt' to be an issue.

Also, charging for bags is fine if you could be sure that the money they get for them means lower prices for the food they sell rather than bigger profits for the companies. Wouldn't market forces ensure it works out like that? I'm not sure myself.
 

purbeast0

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you know what i would like the government to do to 'help the environment' as well?

make it so we can't get fucking junk mail. i'd say out of all the mail i get, over 95% of it is tossed immediately into the trash/recycle because it's simply junk mail. why don't they put a fucking stop to that shit?
 

gorcorps

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From what I read some states want to ban plastic bags completely. Where would I get trash bags for my little bathroom trash cans then?
 

purbeast0

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From what I read some states want to ban plastic bags completely. Where would I get trash bags for my little bathroom trash cans then?

what am i going to put my sandwiches in when i bring them to work?!?!?!?!
 

ioni

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They do actually charge, it is just in the food prices.

I'd rather them raise the cost of popular items in the store by 1 cent. Don't nickel and dime me like an airport. Set your price to cover your goods and leave it at that.
 

Patranus

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I don't get you, you have no problems with Verizon passing on the cost of credit card transaction fees but you're outraged at 5 cent bags? o_O

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2216237

One is generally a problem brought on by politicians while the other was purposed by a private corporation.

There is no choice and competition in regards to government.
There is choice and competition when it comes to your cellular phone provider.

These fees generally have nothing to do with passing on the cost to consumers rather the fees are being brought about because of needless government mandates.
 

StrangerGuy

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It's "saving the environment" only as long as its improves the bottom line or public image.

More news at 11.
 

HeXen

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common in my area. that's why we just use cloth bags. Some we got for free, others were like $.50, so we got plenty while they were cheap years ago. Personally, i think their great, the handles don't rip like paper, stores more than platic and more secure.
Guess some people just can't adapt to change.
 

DrPizza

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I get all my groceries in plastic bags. I've never thrown out a plastic bag without reusing it (generally for holding trash.) I have a small drawer in my kitchen exclusively for grocery bags. Amazingly, I never run out of bags, nor do I ever have so many bags built up that the drawer overflows. In other words, the volume of things entering my home stays roughly even with the volume of things exiting my home; though I don't fill some of the bags up quite as full on the way out - i.e. kitty litter cleaning.

I do, however, enjoy shopping at Aldis - where they do charge you for the bags (but allow you to use their excess boxes to take your groceries out.) It's nice to be able to pack up about 3 boxes and only need 3 trips in from the car. And, one of the reasons products are cheaper at Aldis is that they pass on the savings to the customers. The grocery stores are just loving all this naive environmentalism - they've already built the costs of bags into their model, now then can charge more for them!