6xxx name change explained.

[psoomah]

This slide tells the tale.

The Juniper 'refresh' will consist of being rebadged as 67xx cards. So Barts had to be kicked up to 68xx and Cayman to 69xx.

LOTTA cost savings going on here. Barts and Cypress are pin complatible = minimal board development costs. Barts uses less power than Cypress = further costs savings. No development costs for the 'new' 67xx cards.

How much are AMD AIB partners going to love this?

How much are Nvidia AIB partners going to hate this?

 

[blastingcap]

This slide tells the tale.

The Juniper 'refresh' will consist of being rebadged as 67xx cards. So Barts had to be kicked up to 68xx and Cayman to 69xx.

LOTTA cost savings going on here. Barts and Cypress are pin complatible = minimal board development costs. Barts uses less power than Cypress = further costs savings. No development costs for the 'new' 67xx cards.

How much are AMD AIB partners going to love this?

How much are Nvidia AIB partners going to hate this?

Repost.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=30601140&postcount=252

Furthermore, there is no indication that it will be rebadged rather than staying as 5770. There is no naming info in that slide.

 

[formulav8]

If it is a rebadge hopefully they did some extra things like UVD3, HDMI updates and stuff. If its truly just a simple rebadge then it seems that AMD's marketing has taken over just like it has at nvidia... :whiste:

 

[exar333]

This slide tells the tale.

The Juniper 'refresh' will consist of being rebadged as 67xx cards. So Barts had to be kicked up to 68xx and Cayman to 69xx.

LOTTA cost savings going on here. Barts and Cypress are pin complatible = minimal board development costs. Barts uses less power than Cypress = further costs savings. No development costs for the 'new' 67xx cards.

How much are AMD AIB partners going to love this?

How much are Nvidia AIB partners going to hate this?

So in essence what you are saying is:

Nvidia refresh = bad
AMD refresh = good

I see how it works.

 

[Attic]

I agree with the UVD3 and HDMI updates. Hope the "new" card gets that.

The 5770 is hdmi 1.3a as I understand. I'd hope the new cards get 1.4 for fuller compatabilty with 3D TV's.

 

[HurleyBird]

They'll also probably up the clocks a bit, assuming HD67xx is juniper and they aren't simply going to continue selling HD57xx until the real HD67xx comes out.

 

[Daedalus685]

I don't understand how that slide indicates the 6770 will be the 5770.. All it says is that the replacement for that market will not be released until after December... Which could mean there will not be anything at that level until a new node, the 7000 series, monkeys fly, or the 6770 releases in January....

 

[Madcatatlas]

I think the 5870 will become the 6870..surprise surprise

 

[psoomah]

I don't understand how that slide indicates the 6770 will be the 5770.. All it says is that the replacement for that market will not be released until after December... Which could mean there will not be anything at that level until a new node, the 7000 series, monkeys fly, or the 6770 releases in January....

Upon (y'alls) guided reflection, neither do I.

I brainfarted AMD wasn't going to develop Caicos and Turks from that Juniper arrow thinking they intended to save money and just develop the cards to fill the price/performance holes because Nvidia wasn't providing competition. That was boneheaded. Of course they'd want to update their HTPC cards to incorporate HDMI 4.1 and 3D capabilities.

My bad.

I take this thread back.

It never existed.

 

[dzoner]

Upon (y'alls) guided reflection, neither do I.

I brainfarted AMD wasn't going to develop Caicos and Turks from that Juniper arrow thinking they intended to save money and just develop the cards to fill the price/performance holes because Nvidia wasn't providing competition. That was boneheaded. Of course they'd want to update their HTPC cards to incorporate HDMI 4.1 and 3D capabilities.

My bad.

I take this thread back.

It never existed.

Whoa, slow down there, hoss. This lends credence to your original idea:

Fudzilla - "Juniper 5700 might get rebranded" ... http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/item/20500-juniper-5700-might-get-rebranded

It IS Fudzilla, but it's NOT Fuad.

That second slide SAYS Second Gen. line-up and Juniper is present, but no Caicos or Turks ... pretty good argument for a Juniper rebranding. Don't see any reason NOT to put Turks and Caicos on that slide instead of Juniper unless they've been 86ed. Maybe a slight rework of Juniper, add udv3, HDMI 1.4, 3D capability, same pinout, and call it a 65xx and 67xx day and let Redwood and Cedar continue as is until Fusion replaces them.