Originally posted by: Luthien
In every organization, those in power make the rules and they structure those rules to preserve their power. Abnormal can become normal and vice versa overnight.
Are they sure it was his pencil he poked the ducks with... lol.
Originally posted by: Luthien
the nazis forced siblings to have sex but it was okay...
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: m1ldslide1
Even the folks playing devils advocate (or the one or two that might just be insane) know that it would feel different torturing an ant than it would be to torture a duck.
Why? Because it's cuter? People eat duck. People eat ants. People keep ducks as pets. People keep ants as pets. Is it okay to run out and jump on an ant hill because they're smaller?
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: Luthien
the nazis forced siblings to have sex but it was okay...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
Originally posted by: StormRider
It's very disturbing that he doesn't even understand why it was wrong for him to do this. Is he a potential serial killer?
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Originally posted by: jdoggg12
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Killing a couple ducks makes you a potential serial killer?
:roll:
Uncalled for? Absolutely. Worthy of punishment? Probably. Anything more than some stupid kid doing something to piss off a bunch of other stupid kids? Highly unlikely.
Viper GTS
Every kid that i knew growing up that took pleasure in mutilating animals has grown to be a felon or has violent tendencies
Originally posted by: exdeath
I used to pull wings off of cicadas, poke their eyes out or cut their legs off and see how they coped with it, burned their faces off with magnifying glasses and release them flying back into the wild, and stuff like that, for hours on end as a little boy. I smashed some kind of duck/geese/chicken eggs right in their nests and thought it was funny how the eggs 'parents' reared away hissing and helpless not daring to even try to defend their nests... [omfg I was a wicked kid...] but this was some place where they were destined to be food anyway so I mostly got scolded for wasting food as if they were a dozen eggs from the super market. I pulled worms in half while they were alive and got excited when they squirmed on the hook. I cut heads and gutted fish and poked at the still moving eyes of fish heads freshly cut from their bodies while their heads were gasping for breath. One time in my early teen years I even took sick pleasure in cutting a lizard in half instantly with a pair of sheers as I saw it run out of the bush I was trimming and continue running for a few feet with half its body and rear legs missing, as it's entrails leaked out behind it before it came to a stop. I felt bad about that one later though. I don't know wtf that one was all about. I can't honestly understand or explain why I did those things myself. I took neither pain or pleasure in it, it was complete indifference.
I didn't turn into a psychopath. Instead, I grew up.
All by myself, without shrinks and without psyche drugs, because as I grew older the concept of "do to others the same that you expect from them" started to sink in and I stopped doing things that I didn't feel good about when they were done to me.
Even then I would have never done anything to any kind of red blood bleeding warm blooded endoskeletal animal like a duck or a cat unless it was for some function of nature like eating.
But now I purposely avoid harming even spiders or anything really. It's just unnecessary. There are only four things I will kill without thinking twice in my house: black widows, brown recluses, scorpions, and those of my own biped upright species that wish me harm. I go out of my way to catch and release solpugids (awesome cute little critters that totally have my admiration and respect) and wolf spiders around the house if they appear to be starving to places outside loaded with shade, vegetation, and insects. And I was overjoyed and intrigued when a long time resident wolf spider missing two legs the first time I discovered him, which earned him the name Gimpy, molted and grew his legs back. I didn't realize spiders did that, it was pretty neat and I was happy for him.
I have no desire to hunt things like dear either, despite my gun enthusiasm. There is meat in the market I can buy that is much cheaper and more convenient, even though I'm told it doesn't taste as good. But I have no issue hunting if I had to.
I feel less compelled to go out of my way protecting obnoxious or threatening human life though. I'd get a tag to go hunting in a place like Somalia or Iraq, or some free for all island prison full of rapists and child molesters and people like Cho honestly. There is no sport in it if your prey doesn't have the means to fight back. Then when I was done, I would put that mind set away and return to a proper societal mindset and blend back in.
But baby ducks? Damn. Thats just cold. I'd draw the line at killing anything that bleeds red and has an endoskeleton and vertebrae if it isn't for some useful non wasteful purpose like hunting, or pest reduction. I wouldn't jump to conclusions and put a straight jacket on him and call him a serial killer, but distant observation would be appropriate.
On the other hand, some people have their kids participate in prairie dog and misc. rodent pest hunting, just for target practice, laughing and having a blast with it as action at a distance causes a burst of blood and entrails into the air. But none of them become psychopathic murderers either.
Originally posted by: Schfifty Five
Wow there are a lot of d-bags in this thread. The kid is fvcked up for doing that. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a d-bag.
Originally posted by: m1ldslide1
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: m1ldslide1
Even the folks playing devils advocate (or the one or two that might just be insane) know that it would feel different torturing an ant than it would be to torture a duck.
Why? Because it's cuter? People eat duck. People eat ants. People keep ducks as pets. People keep ants as pets. Is it okay to run out and jump on an ant hill because they're smaller?
Um, that's sort of what I'm saying, but not really. You should get over the cute thing and the people eat duck thing - it has nothing to do with what I was saying. Honestly I'm not sure that I could explain it to you if you find it that confusing. I'm just suggesting you temporarily put on hold your desire to keep arguing your point, and ask yourself how it would make you feel to do each, and apply that to the situation. Really imagine in gory detail what it would be like to do one or the other, then tell me that there's no difference between torturing and killing an ant and a duck.
If you still don't see any difference whatsoever, then maybe this kid isn't that unusual. :disgust:
Originally posted by: exdeath
I used to pull wings off of cicadas, poke their eyes out or cut their legs off and see how they coped with it, burned their faces off with magnifying glasses and release them flying back into the wild, and stuff like that, for hours on end as a little boy. I smashed some kind of duck/geese/chicken eggs right in their nests and thought it was funny how the eggs 'parents' reared away hissing and helpless not daring to even try to defend their nests... [omfg I was a wicked kid...] but this was some place where they were destined to be food anyway so I mostly got scolded for wasting food as if they were a dozen eggs from the super market. I pulled worms in half while they were alive and got excited when they squirmed on the hook. I cut heads and gutted fish and poked at the still moving eyes of fish heads freshly cut from their bodies while their heads were gasping for breath. One time in my early teen years I even took sick pleasure in cutting a lizard in half instantly with a pair of sheers as I saw it run out of the bush I was trimming and continue running for a few feet with half its body and rear legs missing, as it's entrails leaked out behind it before it came to a stop. I felt bad about that one later though. I don't know wtf that one was all about. I can't honestly understand or explain why I did those things myself. I took neither pain or pleasure in it, it was complete indifference.
I didn't turn into a psychopath. Instead, I grew up.
All by myself, without shrinks and without psyche drugs, because as I grew older the concept of "do to others the same that you expect from them" started to sink in and I stopped doing things that I didn't feel good about when they were done to me.
Even then I would have never done anything to any kind of red blood bleeding warm blooded endoskeletal animal like a duck or a cat unless it was for some function of nature like eating.
But now I purposely avoid harming even spiders or anything really. It's just unnecessary. There are only four things I will kill without thinking twice in my house: black widows, brown recluses, scorpions, and those of my own biped upright species that wish me harm. I go out of my way to catch and release solpugids (awesome cute little critters that totally have my admiration and respect) and wolf spiders around the house if they appear to be starving to places outside loaded with shade, vegetation, and insects. And I was overjoyed and intrigued when a long time resident wolf spider missing two legs the first time I discovered him, which earned him the name Gimpy, molted and grew his legs back. I didn't realize spiders did that, it was pretty neat and I was happy for him.
I have no desire to hunt things like dear either, despite my gun enthusiasm. There is meat in the market I can buy that is much cheaper and more convenient, even though I'm told it doesn't taste as good. But I have no issue hunting if I had to.
I feel less compelled to go out of my way protecting obnoxious or threatening human life though. I'd get a tag to go hunting in a place like Somalia or Iraq, or some free for all island prison full of rapists and child molesters and people like Cho honestly. There is no sport in it if your prey doesn't have the means to fight back. Then when I was done, I would put that mind set away and return to a proper societal mindset and blend back in.
But baby ducks? Damn. Thats just cold. I'd draw the line at killing anything that bleeds red and has an endoskeleton and vertebrae if it isn't for some useful non wasteful purpose like hunting, or pest reduction. I wouldn't jump to conclusions and put a straight jacket on him and call him a serial killer, but distant observation would be appropriate.
On the other hand, some people have their kids participate in prairie dog and misc. rodent pest hunting, just for target practice, laughing and having a blast with it as action at a distance causes a burst of blood and entrails into the air. But none of them become psychopathic murderers either.
Originally posted by: Praxis1452
wow... the thought of what you've said is pretty nasty overall. Your name also happens to be exdeath heh.
my friends used to run over caterpillars with their bikes but I actually felt bad when I did it.... Hell I sometimes go out of my way to take a worm and put it back into the soil off the concrete and release ants in the house even though I knew that it had a 0% chance of survival.
Originally posted by: alkemyst
most of your post is pretty insane.
Originally posted by: alkemyst
most of your post is pretty insane.
Originally posted by: Mr Incognito
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Probably exercising millions of years of hunting/survival evolution embedded in his DNA.
There is a difference between that and killing a duck with a pencil and not even knowing why it was wrong. Most poeple do these things knowing that it is not okay to randomly kill animals with a pencil. That is not hunting.
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: Mr Incognito
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Probably exercising millions of years of hunting/survival evolution embedded in his DNA.
There is a difference between that and killing a duck with a pencil and not even knowing why it was wrong. Most poeple do these things knowing that it is not okay to randomly kill animals with a pencil. That is not hunting.
Why not?
Ducks are delicious...
True. If it were my son I'd have his ass at the psychiatric institute PRONTO.Originally posted by: Schfifty Five
Wow there are a lot of d-bags in this thread. The kid is fvcked up for doing that. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a d-bag.
All I'm asking is why there is such a difference between killing a duck and an ant
Originally posted by: exdeath
I'm very well capable of being a psychopath, but I chose not to because it isn't right, particularly in a society of law and order.
