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6GB Kingston KHX2000C8D3TK3 @DDR3-2191Mhz 7-7-7-21

eva2000

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Been messing around with my 6GB Kingston 2000C8 (KHX2000C8D3TK3/6GX) kit on i7 980X. Pretty sure they're Elpida MGH-E Hyper based :)

Elpida Hyper FTW http://i4memory.com/f83/khx2000c8d3tk3-6gx-elpida-mgh-e-hyper-core-i7-980x-23731/ :D

DDR3-2160Mhz 7-7-7-21 1T at 1.78v




DDR3-2191Mhz 7-7-7-21 1T at 1.78v





System:
  • Intel Core i7 980X 3951A763 B1 Step 2 ES
  • EK Supreme LT H20 + TFC480 + MCP655
  • Asus P6T6 WS Revolution 0609 beta bios
  • Sapphire HD5870 10.3 beta
  • 6GB Kingston 2000C8 (KHX2000C8D3TK3/6GX)
  • 80GB Intel X25-M G2 SSD (OS)
  • 120GB OCZ Vertex SSD (DATA)
  • Pioneer DVR216 Burner
  • Corsair HX1000
  • Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit RTM (fully updated)

Not bad - will be interesting to see how much more head room there is :)
 

BD231

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Wow .... I'm sitting here @ 1600mhz ddr2 9-9-9-32-1t, makes me want to upgrade. DDR3is moving along nicely.
 

eva2000

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Indeed moving along nicely :D

How about 6-6-6-20 1T :D Windows max 32M Pi @DDR3-1850Mhz 6-6-6-20 1T, max 1M Pi @DDR3-1880Mhz 6-6-6-20 1T and validation @DDR3-1893Mhz 6-6-6-20 1T.

max 32M Pi @DDR3-1850Mhz 6-6-6-20 1T​



max 1M Pi @DDR3-1880Mhz 6-6-6-20 1T​



max validation @DDR3-1893Mhz 6-6-6-20 1T​

CPU VTT = 1.50v
VDIMM = 1.76v





System:
  • Intel Core i7 980X 3951A763 B1 Step 2 ES
  • EK Supreme LT H20 + TFC480 + MCP655
  • Asus P6T6 WS Revolution 0609 beta bios
  • Sapphire HD5870 10.3 beta
  • 6GB Kingston 2000C8 (KHX2000C8D3TK3/6GX)
  • 80GB Intel X25-M G2 SSD (OS)
  • 120GB OCZ Vertex SSD (DATA)
  • Pioneer DVR216 Burner
  • Corsair HX1000
  • Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit RTM (fully updated)
 

n7

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Nice work! :D

NB clock @ 4320...that's no small feat either!
 

eva2000

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6GB Kingston 2000CAS8 KHX2000C8D3T1K3/6GX scaling tests, when I reduced the Uncore frequency multiplier from 24x to 23x - I reduced the Uncore frequency from 4128Mhz to 4071Mhz and thus managed to jump from DDR3-2064Mhz to DDR3-2124Mhz at the same voltages of 1.45v CPU VTT and 1.66v VDIMM all thanks to Core i7 980X's lower minimum Uncore to Memory ratio requirements!

6GB Kingston 2000CAS8 KHX2000C8D3T1K3/6GX
@DDR3-2124Mhz 8-8-8-24 1T at 1.66v​
  • 23x 177bclk = 4071Mhz cpu frequency
  • 23x 177bclk = 4071Mhz Uncore frequency (cpuz reports it as NB frequency)
  • 18x 177bclk = 3186Mhz QPI frequency
  • 12x 177bclk = DDR3-2124Mhz memory frequency

32m_8m38s453ms.png


6GB Kingston 2000CAS8 KHX2000C8D3T1K3/6GX
@DDR3-2230Mhz 8-8-8-24 1T at 1.66v​

Managing to use TurboV to push bclk incrementally until I reached DDR3-2230Mhz 8-8-8-24 1T at 1.45v CPU VTT and 1.66v VDIMM !
  • 23x 186bclk = 4275Mhz cpu frequency
  • 23x 186bclk = 4275Mhz Uncore frequency (cpuz reports it as NB frequency)
  • 18x 186bclk = 3345Mhz QPI frequency
  • 12x 186bclk = DDR3-2230Mhz memory frequency

cpuz_cputweaker.png


System:
  • Intel Core i7 980X 3951A763 B1 Step 2 ES
  • EK Supreme LT H20 + TFC480 + MCP655
  • Asus P6T6 WS Revolution 0609 beta bios
  • Sapphire HD5970 OC Edition 10.4 Official Catalyst Drivers
  • 6GB Kingston 2000C8 (KHX2000C8D3T1K3/6GX)
  • 750GB Samsung SATAII OS
  • 120GB OCZ Vertex SSD (DATA)
  • Pioneer DVR216 Burner
  • Corsair HX1000
  • WinXP Pro SP3 nlite + Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit RTM (fully updated) dual boot OS
 

eva2000

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How about DDR3-2305Mhz 8-8-8-24 at 1.66v air cooled memory :D

6GB Kingston 2000CAS8 KHX2000C8D3T1K3/6GX
@DDR3-2184Mhz 8-8-8-24 1T at 1.66v​
Next step was to drop the Uncore multiplier one more step from 23x to 22x. You'd think this would by default allow higher memory clocks, but it didn't. The reason being on Asus P6T6 WS Revolution, Uncore frequency is tied to Round Trip Latency (RTL) A/B/C channels and auto adjusts to tighter RTL values as you lower the Uncore multiplier. For further reading on this check out the info about optimal Uncore to DRAM memory ratios for Core i7 980X.

So next step is to manually loosen RTL A/B/C channel values with Uncore multiplier dropped from 23x to 22x which allowed windows to boot in and pass single Super Pi 32M run @DDR3-2184Mhz 8-8-8-24 1T at same 1.45v CPU VTT and 1.66v VDIMM ! And ended up max screenshot captured clocks at DDR3-2305Mhz 8-8-8-24 1T at same voltages.

  • 23x 182bclk = 4186Mhz cpu frequency
  • 22x 182bclk = 4014Mhz Uncore frequency (cpuz reports it as NB frequency)
  • 18x 182bclk = 3276Mhz QPI frequency
  • 12x 182bclk = DDR3-2184Mhz memory frequency

32m_8m28s359ms.png


6GB Kingston 2000CAS8 KHX2000C8D3T1K3/6GX
@DDR3-2305Mhz 8-8-8-24 1T at 1.66v​

  • 23x 192bclk = 4418Mhz cpu frequency
  • 22x 192bclk = 4226Mhz Uncore frequency (cpuz reports it as NB frequency)
  • 18x 192bclk = 3457Mhz QPI frequency
  • 12x 192bclk = DDR3-2305Mhz memory frequency

cpuz_cputweaker_192_1152mhz.png


System:
  • Intel Core i7 980X 3951A763 B1 Step 2 ES
  • EK Supreme LT H20 + TFC480 + MCP655
  • Asus P6T6 WS Revolution 0609 beta bios
  • Sapphire HD5970 OC Edition 10.4 Official Catalyst Drivers
  • 6GB Kingston 2000C8 (KHX2000C8D3T1K3/6GX)
  • 750GB Samsung SATAII OS
  • 120GB OCZ Vertex SSD (DATA)
  • Pioneer DVR216 Burner
  • Corsair HX1000
  • WinXP Pro SP3 nlite + Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit RTM (fully updated) dual boot OS
 

Emulex

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at 1920x1080/1200 how much fps gain do you see versus say ddr3-1600? like crysis or 3dmark
 

Emulex

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Jan 28, 2001
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ok can you please bench (@1600x1200) at 1600 stock 3dmark06 versus 2305

i'm just curious what % delta change in FPS or total score you will see.

thanks!
 

Idontcare

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You'd think this would by default allow higher memory clocks, but it didn't. The reason being on Asus P6T6 WS Revolution, Uncore frequency is tied to Round Trip Latency (RTL) A/B/C channels and auto adjusts to tighter RTL values as you lower the Uncore multiplier. For further reading on this check out the info about optimal Uncore to DRAM memory ratios for Core i7 980X.

So next step is to manually loosen RTL A/B/C channel values with Uncore multiplier dropped from 23x to 22x which allowed windows to boot in and pass single Super Pi 32M run @DDR3-2184Mhz 8-8-8-24 1T at same 1.45v CPU VTT and 1.66v VDIMM ! And ended up max screenshot captured clocks at DDR3-2305Mhz 8-8-8-24 1T at same voltages.


Serious question: how much of this working knowledge gets captured and leveraged by memory and motherboard makers so that future products are all the more optimized "out of the box"?
 

lopri

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Those are the most insane memory overclocking I've ever seen. Incredible.

P.S. Is there no harm in running the uncore faster than the core?
 

eva2000

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ok can you please bench (@1600x1200) at 1600 stock 3dmark06 versus 2305

i'm just curious what % delta change in FPS or total score you will see.

thanks!
will have to do it later as testing some super talent 2200c8 stuff now http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2079208 :)

Serious question: how much of this working knowledge gets captured and leveraged by memory and motherboard makers so that future products are all the more optimized "out of the box"?
i'm sure oc'ers testing some motherboards are providing such feedback - but most boards already allow manual RTL adjustments so it's a matter of tuning it yourself :)

Those are the most insane memory overclocking I've ever seen. Incredible.

P.S. Is there no harm in running the uncore faster than the core?

thanks lopri :)

no harm in uncore > core speed if you mean core = cpu raw mhz ?? only thing you have to be careful off is cpu vtt and vdimm volts