690G Mobo Manufacturers: You are making this launch painful, Please Read!

chucky2

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So far none of the 690G solutions I've seen pictures of have been particularly impressive, so maybe a wishlist is in order:

1.a.) D-sub, DVI, and HDMI onboard - we don't need the LPT port any longer guys, it's 2007.
1.b.) Bracket that plugs into motherboard header which supports Component out - please leave space on bracket for high quality connectors, not the cheapies...it costs no more to do that so this should be easy.

2.) Firewire on back panel I/O, header onboard for front cases that have it. Why most of the 690G motherboards don't have Firewire - including the LGA775 Abit X1250 board - I have no idea, it seems a no brainer for boards with this chipset to have it.

3.) Optical out.

4.) Solid state caps where applicable, high quality Japenese caps everywhere else. See the Abit Fatal1ty F-I90HD website, that's what we'd like.

5.) Bundled software to let me enjoy HD-DVD's and/or Bluray's at 1080p, 1080i, 720p, 480p, 480i...basically, whatever I want.

6.a.) For the mATX, 1 PCIe 16x for sure (I think all have this covered), and either 2 PCI and 1 PCIe 1x where one of the PCI's will be blocked by the PCIe 16x, or 2 PCIe 1x and 1 PCI where one of the PCIe 1x's will be blocked by the PCIx 16x.
6.b.) For the ATX, go with 1 PCI 16x, and either 4 PCI and 2 PCIe 1x, or, 4 PCIe 1x and 2 PCI. Regardless, whichever has the 4 number, stick one of them next to the PCIe 16 slot.

7.) Somehow give us some indication on AM2+ Agena and Kuma support. You make LGA775 solutions, so even if we don't go 690G, you still have an equal chance of getting our business...it only benefits you to be upfront!!!

Hopefully this post gets back to someone that matters at least at one mobo manufacturer...although I doubt it...(I'll even go to church a Sunday or two if it happens...Promise!!!)

Chuck
 

Gary Key

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Originally posted by: chucky2

7.) Somehow give us some indication on AM2+ Agena and Kuma support. You make LGA775 solutions, so even if we don't go 690G, you still have an equal chance of getting our business...it only benefits you to be upfront!!!



Chuck

THe 690G chipset fully supports the upcoming Quad Core processors per the chipset and CPU departments today. I am trying to get an answer if the motherboards are good to go also.
 

chucky2

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Gary,

That's great news!

If the mobo manufacturers can confirm that since the 690G chipset supports Agena and Kuma, they are guarantee'ing it also, then that'd be the one major hurdle IMHO on this chipset being adopted as the defacto AM2 platform.

The other major hurdle is how MCP68 is going to compare to 690G...nVidia doesn't have to do much to make it a better solution...

Thanks again for asking the question!

Chuck
 

chucky2

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Originally posted by: compwarez
http://www.xpcgear.com/m2avmhdm.html

m2a-vm hdmi is here

Be aware that Asus makes a M2A-VM HDMI and a M2A-VM. Last I looked on Asus's website, the HDMI version had Firewire, the non-HDMI version didn't. I'll believe the HDMI board only when someone I trust (like AnandTech) does a review on it, or someone like NewEgg has pictures of the board they have in stock. Making it even more confusing, some sites that are listing these Asus's 690G board have Firewire listed, and some do not. The Asus site has it listed for the HDMI, but not for the non-HDMI...and now the picture isn't pulling up for the HDMI board on the Asus site...the picture in your link of it looks to me like no Firewire, so most likely it's the non-HDMI version of the M2A-VM.

If it's a mATX board, and the manufacturer couldn't spend the extra $5 to put onboard Firewire in, their just not getting my money. An ATX board, OK, maybe I can understand, as you'd have the expansion ability to put in an add-in Firewire card. On a mATX board, that means you just used up anywhere from 33% to 50% of your expansion ability, depending on what kind of video card is in the PCIe 16x slot (if any). Basically, no Firewire on a mATX board is a poor design decision...it shows lack of planning on the customers behalf IMHO...

Also, not sure I like that I have to take up the PCIe 16x slot on the Asus M2A-VM HDMI to get the HDMI port and the component ports. The audio block is not looking good either...aren't there supposed to be 6 jacks, not 3?

Gary...we all eagerly await the mATX roundup.... :laugh:

Chuck
 

Zap

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Originally posted by: chucky2
If it's a mATX board, and the manufacturer couldn't spend the extra $5 to put onboard Firewire in, their just not getting my money. An ATX board, OK, maybe I can understand, as you'd have the expansion ability to put in an add-in Firewire card. On a mATX board, that means you just used up anywhere from 33% to 50% of your expansion ability, depending on what kind of video card is in the PCIe 16x slot (if any). Basically, no Firewire on a mATX board is a poor design decision...it shows lack of planning on the customers behalf IMHO...

Well, if it's marketed for HTPC (and saying it does HDMI means it is) then I agree with you. If it isn't, then probably doesn't matter.

My HTPC doesn't have Firewire (and I have a few external Firewire drive bays) and I can't add it because of the two PCI slots, one is covered by my video card's dual slot cooler and the other has a TV tuner.
 

chucky2

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Yeah, I can agree with that...

...but say someone just has a general PC and they choose the M2A-VM...then they get a camcorder.

Now they have to buy an add-in Firewire card just so they can bring the movies from their miniDV? That's cr@p IMHO...USB is standard on all mobo's, I don't know why given the amount of Firewire stuff out there that Firewire hasn't made a larger push...

Check out these boards though:

Gigabyte AMD 690G mainboards photos

The MA69G-S3 looks really nice, depending on what price point they can bring it in at. The MA69GM-S2 doesn't look bad either...

Maybe there's hope for 690G afterall...

Chuck
 

chucky2

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The Gigabyte GA-MA69G-S3 is probably not going to be here until the May 21st, 2007 timeframe...somewhere around there... :brokenheart:

Does anyone know of a 690G board that's finally going to be released that actually has it all?

Chuck
 

hans007

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there are 2 boards out that have hdmi already.

the msi and asus models.


some people DONT want thats stuff and to get the hdcp and hdmi licenses probably cost money. the "cheap" board right now that only has DVI is that ecs one at newegg for $55 after a rebate.

that does make sense, as some people probably want to just connect this to a monitor and use it for a cheap office type PC.
 

hans007

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Originally posted by: piasabird
Lots of people have gear that needs and LPT Port. Why throw your printer away?

its still a legacy port.

i had bought a g965 intel branded board, and it didnt come with one either about a year ago. that made me buy a new printer, but my next mobo had a printer port. b ut still its about time to finally get rid of parallel ports, a lot of printers dont even have them anymore as it is.

 

WhoBeDaPlaya

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Biostar TA690G. /thread ;)
najames has his OC'ed to pretty nice levels (~264FSB). Mine is on its way from eWiz - hopefully will manage to hit higher FSB OCs using the April 02 BIOS.

Edit : The ECS 690G board also looks pretty tempting ($55 after $10 rebate at the 'egg), but I have no idea whether this is one of ECS's great boards or duds.
 

Uppsala9496

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I was really hoping the review would have come out when they first thought it would. I had to jump on buying a mobo and ended up with the Asus M2A-Vm. I'm happy with it but really wish I could have overclocked it a little more. oh well.