690 or 670sli?

Privacy

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Hey i want to upgrade my graphics card witch is an amd 6970 its a year old and i am really unhappy running really hot and always had a lot of driver problems and CCC not working,so i am sick and tierd of it so i am hoping to get the money back.

well back to the question what should i choose thought alot about 2x gigabyte windforce3x 670. and the 690 i really like because of its performance and its only 1 card so no problem with space, but its also a hard choice because its more expensive but no prob if i get money back for the old one :) and also if i bought 690 witch one should i choose?

and also i only have PCI 2 or whatever it is called will that be a problem with these cards?

also sorry for bad english :)
 

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I'd get the 2 670's.

BTW, if you get your money back on a 1yr old card, br sure to give mad props to the company that did that for you. Honestly, I don't think you have a snowball's chance in hell. Unless you bought it from a retail store that has awesome customer satisfaction policies. You would definitely want to spread the good word though, if they do.
 

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As long as you have 2x PCIe 16x slots, then go for 2x GTX670. Also, even a single 670 would be a huge upgrade over the 6970. No reason to spend $800-$1,000 unless you are gaming at 2560x1440/1600.
 

Privacy

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so the 2, 670's well will wait for more answers before i deside :)
well i dont know how stuff like this works:p but have heard they are really nice, they also dont sell the card anymore + its running at like 65c when i look on youtube O.O" and it always pops up in 90c+ in any game i play and i am afraid it will fry so have to put the fan at 75% or more witch = jetplane + all those shitty drivers that stops working and CCC program not working
pff thats not what i expect of an 1 year old card well anyways i hope for the best :)

it prob sound retarded but whatever thats what i think
 

RussianSensation

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Ya, as long as he doens't have a motherboard with PCIe 2.0 x16/x4. In that case the GTX690 is the only way to go.

Also with such as GPU as the 6970, it's really important to know what resolution and CPU and PSU he has.

Privacy, can you please tell us:

1) CPU
2) PSU
3) What resolution / games you play?

I probably should have asked this right away.
 

Privacy

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cool looks like 670's then and i have an http://www.msi.com/product/mb/P67A-GD55--B3-.html if am not totally wrong

cpu: intel i5 2500k
psu: Chieftec Nitro Series BPS-750C 750W PSU
Resolution is 1920x1080, i mostly play Battlefield 3, mafia2, WoW and Assassin's creed games, waiting for Farcry 3 and GTA v and other new games :)
 
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TakeNoPrisoners

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Your hardware looks good; your PSU is adequate and mobo is fine. Just don't get any GTX 670's with three slot coolers.
 

Privacy

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adequate never heard that word, what does it mean:)? well i have been looking at the Gigabyte windforce 3x, just hope it will fit 2`? just a bit longer but thats no problem :)
 

RussianSensation

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Ya, you can start with a single GTX670 and if you still feel you need more performance, grab a 2nd one later. No need to get 2x 670s for those games other than maybe BF3. Mafia 2, WOW, FC3, AC games will be a walk in the park for a single 670.

Gigabyte Windforce 3x is good.
 

Privacy

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thanks for the answers guys, i will go for 2x 670's then :)

sadly hokies83 i dont live in the US so i wont get them that cheep :(
 

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Yeah all your hardware will be fine with 2 670's. I really like my EVGA 670SC 4GB, I also plan to add a second 670 when I get my monitors for surround gaming, but money is a problem for me right now, so that may be a while. I also think starting with a single 670 would be fine right now for you, but if you can afford 2 go for it. My single 670 has no problems at all maxing out any of my games right now, even BF3.
 

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Ya, you can start with a single GTX670 and if you still feel you need more performance, grab a 2nd one later. No need to get 2x 670s for those games other than maybe BF3. Mafia 2, WOW, FC3, AC games will be a walk in the park for a single 670.

Gigabyte Windforce 3x is good.

I've got a 680 which is just barely faster and even BF3 can run at Ultra with zero issues at 1920x1200. So yeah, I agree... Go with a sinlge 670. It WILL max out any game at 1080p. (BF3, Metro, Crysis) are all games I can max out. Then maybe in February when Crysis 3 comes out, snag another 670 when you'll actually need it (and good chance it will be cheaper)

That's what I plan on doing, provided the SLI scaling reviews for Crysis 3 are favorable.
 

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I've got a 680 which is just barely faster and even BF3 can run at Ultra with zero issues at 1920x1200. So yeah, I agree... Go with a sinlge 670. It WILL max out any game at 1080p. (BF3, Metro, Crysis) are all games I can max out. Then maybe in February when Crysis 3 comes out, snag another 670 when you'll actually need it (and good chance it will be cheaper)

That's what I plan on doing, provided the SLI scaling reviews for Crysis 3 are favorable.
you do NOT run Metro 2033 maxed out at 1920x1200 with a gtx680. even without physx, a gtx680 would struggle to maintain 30-35 fps in many parts of the game and your minimums would be in the 20s.
 
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2is

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Thanks for the heads up. I'll be sure to remind my 680 it can't do what it's doing next time I fire up the game.
 

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Thanks for the heads up. I'll be sure to remind my 680 it can't do what it's doing next time I fire up the game.
so you actually think people are stupid enough to believe your claim? I know first hand that is not possible plus any review will back me up. :rolleyes:

here even a gtx680 that has very high clocks cannot even average 30fps and that is without physx.

 
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so you actually think people are stupid enough to believe your claim? I know first hand that is not possible plus any review will back me up. :rolleyes:

here even a gtx680 that has very high clocks cannot even average 30fps and that is without physx.


lol, how is it not possible if you're posting benchmarks for it? I didn't say i'm running it at 60fps. It's a slower paced single player FPS that runs just fine. Thanks for the review that actually backed up my claim.
 

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lol, how is it not possible if you're posting benchmarks for it? I didn't say i'm running it at 60fps. It's a slower paced single player FPS that runs just fine. Thanks for the review that actually backed up my claim.
how does that back up your claim, genius? that bench is NOT even maxed out and cant even average 30 fps with factory oced gtx680. with it maxed it would be even lower. not to mention Metro 2033 has some massive dips even if you could average much higher so only averaging just under 30 fps is NOT smooth at all in this game. everyone else knows this but you. :rolleyes:
 

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It backs up my claim over yours because you're saying it CANNOT be done, which means the game won't even launch. If I said I can max out the game with 60fps average, and you said that cannot be done, that would be different. Choose your words more carefully.

You need not waste your time trying to convince someone who can't be convinced. I'd suggest you move on with your life. Maybe when I play through the game further i'll come back and bow down to you, but the little while I spent on it right after installing my 680, it played quite well.
 

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It backs up my claim over yours because you're saying it CANNOT be done, which means the game won't even launch. If I said I can max out the game with 60fps average, and you said that cannot be done, that would be different. Choose your words more carefully.

You need not waste your time trying to convince someone who can't be convinced. I'd suggest you move on with your life. Maybe when I play through the game further i'll come back and bow down to you, but the little while I spent on it right after installing my 680, it played quite well.
even in my first reply, I never mentioned 60fps. I told you it would struggle to get 30-35 fps for an average in many areas even without physx on. and I know for a fact this game is NOT smooth on max settings with a gtx680. my gtx670 was oced plenty high and the game had WAY too many dips to be considered playable even physx OFF. so again your claim of running it on full max settings does not jive with reality. you probably dont even know what max settings are in the first place for this game.
 

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No, what you said was it CANNOT run it, which is false.

Seems to me you've got nothing else to prove. Since I don't know what max settings are, and I'm the only one who thinks it runs fine, by your own admission, and by my own admission you aren't going to convince me, we can both agree to disagree and go along our merry way. I'll play the game at settings it cannot run on, and you can do whatever it is that you do.
 

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so you actually think people are stupid enough to believe your claim? I know first hand that is not possible plus any review will back me up. :rolleyes:

here even a gtx680 that has very high clocks cannot even average 30fps and that is without physx.


Yeah with my Huge over clocks Gtx 680 Sli Only Avg 80 fps with Physx Off..

When i play it everything will be on and at 2560x1440 i just hope to hold 60fps..

Im playing some other games hope Nvidia has some new drivers out by then that helps it out..

600 Series are still pretty much using the release drivers for the series..
 
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The_Golden_Man

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Very happy with my 2x ASUS GTX 670 DC II SLI setup. Fast and silent. PCI-E 2.0 at x8 + x8 works just fine. No need for PCI-E 3.0.
 

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Very happy with my 2x ASUS GTX 670 DC II SLI setup. Fast and silent. PCI-E 2.0 at x8 + x8 works just fine. No need for PCI-E 3.0.

I run Pci-e 3.0 16x 16x

Just that changed my 3dMark Scores by 600 Points..

So lets just lay it down like this..

Gain from 8x to 16x 1fps gain from 2.0 to 3.0 1fps..

But With next years 700 Series release 2.0 will be pushed to it's limits.. Making 3.0 the way to go..


Tri or Quad Sli at Extreme Res the diff can be 10+ Fps.