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6800XT: When, what, and why?

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Josh7289

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OK, I want to get a new PCIe video card by next Friday, October 7, if possible. I don't have much to spends, so I'm looking at the 6600GT right now and I intend to buy it soon. I'm just waiting to see if any really good deals pop up between now and next week for me to jump on before I order one now. However, recently I've heard Nvidia is releasing a "new" 6800XT soon for $150: about the price of a 6600GT. What I want to know is a few things about this card. (1) When will it be available in retail online stores? (2) What exactly is this card? I've heard the AGP version is the NV40 core, but that does not concern me since I need a PCIe card, although it could potentially be unlocked to full 16 pipelines. I've heard the PCIe version is only NV41, so it cannot go past, what, 12 pipes, potentially? So, is this card just a standard 6800 PCIe, but with only 8 pipelines instead of 12? Is anything else different, like memory bus width? If this card is only 8 pipelines, and not overclocked, wouldn't a stock 6600GT beat it, since the 6600GT has GDD3 memory and higher core and memory clock speeds? Or would the 6800XT's potential 256-bit memory bus allow it to beat the 6600GT? (3) Well, "why" may come after I get some answers...

Thanks everyone for your help. I really appreciate it!
 
I haven't looked at the specs carefully but I think its meant to compete with ATI's x800gt. Both fill the gap between the 6800 and 6800gt/x800xl.
 
hmm i think its 8 pipes but with 256bit memory. i suggest you get the 6800NU and try to unlock the pipes. its the best bang for buck for that price at the moment.
 
Originally posted by: orangat
I haven't looked at the specs carefully but I think its meant to compete with ATI's x800gt. Both fill the gap between the 6800 and 6800gt/x800xl.
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I think you are right in saying that it is suppossed to compete with the X800GT, which outperforms the similarly priced 6600GT, and that would mean the 6800XT should cost about the same, too, at about $150. However, you are incorrect in saying that the performance of the X800GT/6800XT is between the 6800/X800GTO and 6800GT/X800XL. On the contrary, the X800GT/6800XT are supposed to compete at about the $150 price point, which would mean the 6800XT is more or less a replacement to the 6600GT.

Originally posted by: ddogg
hmm i think its 8 pipes but with 256bit memory. i suggest you get the 6800NU and try to unlock the pipes. its the best bang for buck for that price at the moment.
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I've already said I need a PCIe card. The PCIe 6800's pipes cannot be unlocked as it uses the NV41 core, like the 6800XT, and it already has all 12 pipelines "unlocked". Only the AGP version of the 6800, which uses the NV40 core, can unlock the extra 4 pipelines for a total of the full 16 pipelines unlocked. By the way, I cannot spend more than $150, and since the 6800 and competitively priced X800GTO are about $200, I cannot get them.

Anyway, I see Anandtech just posted a new article on the X800GT, so I'm going to give that a read tomorrow and see what they have to say about it. Until then, if anyone has any solid facts on this card, the 6800XT, then please tell me.

Thanks again.
 
Originally posted by: compgeek89
Go with an x800 GTO2, theyre 100% Successful at unlocking to x850 XT, theyre $199
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Again, out of my price range. Read the whole thread before posting. Also, although I am not biased towards neither ATI nor Nvidia, I can only get an Nvidia card. This is because Nvidia's drivers have one option that only works on their drivers: 1:1 pixel ratio scaling on digital flat panel displays. Basically, it makes it so a full screen image of a resolution lower than my LCD monitor's native resolution (1280 x 1024) does not get interpolated to fill the whole screen, but gets placed in the center of the screen with black bars all around it, using only the number of pixels of the lower resolution and not interpolating the image to use the full number of pixels in my monitor's native resolution. This is too bad, since ATI currently has some good deals in my price range, and since ATI doesn't seem to care about 1:1 pixel ratio scaling for digital FPDs. It's too bad...
 
Originally posted by: hitmanx2
Originally posted by: johnnqq
100% eh? you should get some kind of misinformation warning...
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GTO2 is supposed to have 16pipeline originally
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Is that right? Well, it doesn't matter anyway, since they're never going to be released.
 
Originally posted by: compgeek89
Originally posted by: Josh7289
Originally posted by: hitmanx2
Originally posted by: johnnqq
100% eh? you should get some kind of misinformation warning...
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GTO2 is supposed to have 16pipeline originally
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Is that right? Well, it doesn't matter anyway, since they're never going to be released.
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Theyre for sale on newegg
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WTF?! I heard they weren't going to be released very recently from Anandtech! Argh! How does this thing perform?! And how does the original X800GTO perform for that matter?! The X800GTO and X800GTO2 are the same price, so why not get the latter if looking for a $200 card? Ah!!! What's ATI doing? They're releasing cards like crazy that are just old cards renamed, but for insanly low prices. This makes it so each new card released makes last week's new card obsolete! Ahhh!!!
 
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