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6800 vanilla in stock here

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
It was in stock there before for $235, then got pulled.


235.00 is an awesome deal. Probably just a limited supply promotional or something. 314.00 isn't bad considering you cant even get a 5950 for that much. And the 6800 does somewhat better with more features. I am tempted, but waiting for the GT to get into that price range. Might take a while but, I am in no rush. My 5900U is doing just dandy.
 

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will there be any 6800's, or GTs as well, that have the ViVo feature? Thats up to the manufacturer to add in afterwards, right?
 

wkabel23

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Pretty good price. Would the extra money spent on a 6800 be worth it instead of buying a ~$250 9800?
 

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Originally posted by: wkabel23
Pretty good price. Would the extra money spent on a 6800 be worth it instead of buying a ~$250 9800?
Yes and no.
Yes, it's a good price.
No, a 9800 is not $250. It's $210 for a R360-based 9800 Pro (most of the time), at most. If you have anything from a 9700 Pro to 9800 XT or 5900XT to 5950U, there's no point in upgrading until the GT becaomes somwhat mainstream, and maybe not even then.
If some company *cough* Gainward-BFG-Leadtek sells a 6800 w/ 1.9ns RAM, then the 6800 becomes a pretty worthy card.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: wkabel23
Pretty good price. Would the extra money spent on a 6800 be worth it instead of buying a ~$250 9800?

Well, they didn't directly bench a 6800nu with a 9800 of any kind. But they did bench it against a 5950.
There were only 2 games where the 5950 was only a few frames ahead of the 6800, but the rest of the time, the 6800 comes out on top by a decent margin. So for the most part, a 5950 is in the ballpark of a 9800XT. I would have to say that the performance would be better than that of a 9800XT but you will also have all of the NV40 shader power and features. I think its the best card you can buy Price/performance on the nvidia side right now. X800pro for the best price performance on the ATI side.

Yeah, I think its worth the extra bucks to get it.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: wkabel23
Pretty good price. Would the extra money spent on a 6800 be worth it instead of buying a ~$250 9800?
Yes and no.
Yes, it's a good price.
No, a 9800 is not $250. It's $210 for a R360-based 9800 Pro (most of the time), at most. If you have anything from a 9700 Pro to 9800 XT or 5900XT to 5950U, there's no point in upgrading until the GT becaomes somwhat mainstream, and maybe not even then.
If some company *cough* Gainward-BFG-Leadtek sells a 6800 w/ 1.9ns RAM, then the 6800 becomes a pretty worthy card.

Very good points.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
I don't think the card comes remotely close to 50% gains over the 9800 Pro.

You mean because its 50% more money? Nobody said its 50% faster. Its definately a much faster card than a 9800pro/5900Ultra. Better shader performance and its a newer, young technology with early drivers. We all know what NVidia can do with their driver team. They can probably get a clean 30% performance advantage over a 9800pro/XT in time I have no doubt. So if its faster NOW with its current driver set, I'd say its a good move to go for a 314.00 dollar 6800 over a 210 dollar 9800pro. DEFINATELY a better buy than a 300.00 plus 9800XT. No one ever said it was 50% faster. Thats the ultra's job. :p
 

wkabel23

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Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: wkabel23
Pretty good price. Would the extra money spent on a 6800 be worth it instead of buying a ~$250 9800?
Yes and no.
Yes, it's a good price.
No, a 9800 is not $250. It's $210 for a R360-based 9800 Pro (most of the time), at most. If you have anything from a 9700 Pro to 9800 XT or 5900XT to 5950U, there's no point in upgrading until the GT becaomes somwhat mainstream, and maybe not even then.
If some company *cough* Gainward-BFG-Leadtek sells a 6800 w/ 1.9ns RAM, then the 6800 becomes a pretty worthy card.

I have a 64MB Ti4200 :(

I'm either buying this or a 6800GT. I just wish nVidia would hurry up and get the cards out in mass.
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: wkabel23
Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: wkabel23
Pretty good price. Would the extra money spent on a 6800 be worth it instead of buying a ~$250 9800?
Yes and no.
Yes, it's a good price.
No, a 9800 is not $250. It's $210 for a R360-based 9800 Pro (most of the time), at most. If you have anything from a 9700 Pro to 9800 XT or 5900XT to 5950U, there's no point in upgrading until the GT becaomes somwhat mainstream, and maybe not even then.
If some company *cough* Gainward-BFG-Leadtek sells a 6800 w/ 1.9ns RAM, then the 6800 becomes a pretty worthy card.

I have a 64MB Ti4200 :(

I'm either buying this or a 6800GT. I just wish nVidia would hurry up and get the cards out in mass.
I had such a card, stable at 300/600. If it hadn't died, I'd be waiting for the GT as well.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Pete
6800 directly compared with a 9800P.

keys: heh, a "clean" 30% performance gain from nVidia. Interesting choice of words, all things considered. :)

Awesome link Pete! And I believe I said eventually about the 30%.. It was just a round number. I could have said 25% or 35%. Maybe it will happen and maybe it wont. Time will tell, but history shows nvidia is able to do it. :)
 

ZobarStyl

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At 310, not worth it vs a 9800pro...but if you can find another one anywhere near 235 again, then the 9800pro has nothing on this for 25 bucks more...
 

vshah

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
I wonder if there will ever be a softmod for that card. I highly doubt 8/16 pipes are faulty.

6800 is a 12 pipe card....

-Vivan
 

Pete

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Well, the author of that Czech review was able to flash his 6800 from 8 to 12 pipes (incorrectly configured sample from Leadtek apparently had only 8 pipes enabled when he got it), so it should be equally simple to flash it from 12 to 16 pipes--assuming the GPU is flawless.
 

vshah

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Originally posted by: Pete
Well, the author of that Czech review was able to flash his 6800 from 8 to 12 pipes (incorrectly configured sample from Leadtek apparently had only 8 pipes enabled when he got it), so it should be equally simple to flash it from 12 to 16 pipes--assuming the GPU is flawless.

link?

-Vivan
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Pete
Well, the author of that Czech review was able to flash his 6800 from 8 to 12 pipes (incorrectly configured sample from Leadtek apparently had only 8 pipes enabled when he got it), so it should be equally simple to flash it from 12 to 16 pipes--assuming the GPU is flawless.

Yes I saw that. Very interesting. So if your lucky enough to find an OEM that puts GDDR3 on a 6800nu, and then flash it with a 6800GT bios, you would be in either a world of hurt, or in pretty damn good shape. I think I'll just take the plunge and throw in the extra C-note for a real GT.