6800 Ultra Died Today! (New ATI 3850 won't insall drivers)

jrphoenix

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My title says it all... My 6800 Ultra died today while my wife was playing the Sims 2. I don't play games on my computer that much but, that will change later this year when the new Totalwar game comes out. Currently all gaming is done on my xbox 360!

My comp (see sig) was built in 2004 so next year will be overhaul time. Until then I'm looking for the best AGP gaming card that I can get from newegg (have an account and they've been good to me). I don't do video editing. We play Sims 2 / Medieval 2 total war / new totalwar game when it comes out. I would like to play Crysis but, I don't know if my AMD 3800+ would fall apart on me.

I want a card preferably that will use a molex connector because I have 2 sitting there unused from my 6800 Ultra. I'll be ordering on the 25th after my wife and I get back from our cruise in Italy.

Thank you!

Link to other post where I found my card died (my 8500 is much less power hungry and works like a champ but, my wife needs her Sims 2 at 1600 x 1200 (resolution of our LCD). Link

UPDATE!!!!

Received my new AGP 3850 (Saphire).

I installed it (using now in my computer on Windows default driver).

I download the ATI drivers from the AMD/ATI web site but, I get an error and it exits installation everytime I try to install them with or without the CCC. http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html I did install the 2.0.NET framework from windows update

I ran driver cleaner for my old Nvidia card & uninstalled the video driver.

I choose Windows XP home / professional
Radeon
HD 3850
for the dirver type

I then get this error when the driver starts to install: "Setup did not find a driver compatible with your current hardware or operating system. Setup will now exit". Please help!

Thank you!
 

Andrew1990

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Originally posted by: happy medium
3850 agp is THEE best

For the price of the 3850, the OP could buy a new PCIe motherboard and a 8800GS. The 8800 isnt as good as the 3850, but he is then able to use the PCIe card in his new build if required too.
 

sprtnbsblplya

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You could check eBay for a 7900gs AGP flavor. I know you want to use Newegg but its always an option. The AGP 7900's usually go for pretty darn cheap too. It won't play Crysis though...
Just an option, not as good as the 3850 though.
 

happy medium

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Originally posted by: Andrew1990
Originally posted by: happy medium
3850 agp is THEE best

For the price of the 3850, the OP could buy a new PCIe motherboard and a 8800GS. The 8800 isnt as good as the 3850, but he is then able to use the PCIe card in his new build if required too.

THE 3850 AGP IS DOWN TO 129.00$ AND 109.00$ AFTER REBATE
Sorry for caps
 

Andrew1990

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Originally posted by: happy medium
Originally posted by: Andrew1990
Originally posted by: happy medium
3850 agp is THEE best

For the price of the 3850, the OP could buy a new PCIe motherboard and a 8800GS. The 8800 isnt as good as the 3850, but he is then able to use the PCIe card in his new build if required too.

THE 3850 AGP IS DOWN TO 129.00$ AND 109.00$ AFTER REBATE
Sorry for caps


Oops, sorry, I must have lost track of the price on it. That is a steal for such a great card in AGP interface.
 

jrphoenix

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Originally posted by: bryanW1995
link? it's $147 for the his version at newegg, that's the cheapest I see there.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...9&bop=And&Order=PRICED

Which manufacturer would you guys recommend. I agree with one poster above that I should go with PCIe but, I really don't have the patience / time to build a new setup right now. I opened a new business in September and my schedule is always pretty full (I have to leave a little time for gaming :p )

Thanks!
 

bryanW1995

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that $109 AR deal at zzf is the way to go. I know that you really like newegg, but for $40 better price I think that I could stand using someone else. btw, I used to be blindly loyal to newegg, too. I still prefer them if the deal is close, but I've used mwave, clubit, and moogr in the past year with great results. $40 better deal is just too good to pass up.
 

jrphoenix

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Originally posted by: bryanW1995
that $109 AR deal at zzf is the way to go. I know that you really like newegg, but for $40 better price I think that I could stand using someone else. btw, I used to be blindly loyal to newegg, too. I still prefer them if the deal is close, but I've used mwave, clubit, and moogr in the past year with great results. $40 better deal is just too good to pass up.

You're right... I'm not that loyal :) I hope they have the deal after I get back on the 25th... I'll keep checking. Thank you!
 

jrphoenix

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Any chance these new nvidia 200 or amd 4800 cards will come out in an AGP flavor? Just saw in the stickied topics that they're due out soon? If they're there on the 25th when I get back it's worth a go?
 

jrphoenix

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Originally posted by: happy medium
na, our cpu's are to slow for them anyway.

True... I need a complete overhaul but, I have no time :( I do plan on buying (not building for the first time) a new system next year.
 

jrphoenix

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UPDATE!!!!

Received my new AGP 3850 (Saphire).

I installed it (using now in my computer on Windows default driver).

I download the ATI drivers from the AMD/ATI web site but, I get an error and it exits installation everytime I try to install them with or without the CCC. http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html I did install the 2.0.NET framework from windows update

I ran driver cleaner for my old Nvidia card & uninstalled the video driver.

I choose Windows XP home / professional
Radeon
HD 3850
for the dirver type

I then get this error when the driver starts to install: "Setup did not find a driver compatible with your current hardware or operating system. Setup will now exit". Please help!

Thank you!
 

BlueAcolyte

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Try the modded Omega drivers. ATi does have a "bit" of trouble with their AGP drivers.
 

jrphoenix

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Originally posted by: BlueAcolyte
Try the modded Omega drivers. ATi does have a "bit" of trouble with their AGP drivers.

Are these the drivers you are talking about? Omega? I have never used Omega drivers before.
 

jrphoenix

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I'm sure those were the Omega so I installed. It went through the entire installation but, my computer still is sluggish (say's it doesn't recognize ATI hardware if I try to use tray tools).

How can I be using my computer right now with an ATI card but, it won't install a driver and doesn't recognize the card it's outputting under?

Please help!
 

jrphoenix

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It seems like the installation CD drivers / ATI latest drivers from their site / Omega are not installing the driver because they are not recognizing the card as an ATI 3850 possibly? It seemed brand new when I opened it. The card is displaying now so, not broken. Is it possible that the manufacturer did not install the BIOS on the card?????????
 

DerekWilson

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try booting into safe mode and opening a cmd window and then doing this:

set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1
start devmgmt.msc

... then you need to select the option from the top to show hidden devices.

then you'll want to look at everything that is non-present and hidden (except for the things in non-plug and play -- don't remove those). these will show up as a slightly faded image.

if you get the option to check the box to remove the driver as well, then check this box also.

if this doesn't work you may also look at removing and updating your chipset drivers and your bios to whatever the latest thing available is.
 

Skunkwourk

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I think there is also a hotfix people with 3 series AGP cards have been applying, but not sure if it will help you.