660ti 3gb FTW+ vs. 670 2gb?

hodgenutts

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Ok so which is better? The are tecnically the same GPU I think. How would the 3gb 192 bit bus fair against 2 gb 256 bit bus?

Comparing:

660ti 3gb FTW+ with a nice factory O.C. and a backplate on the vid card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130817

Plain Jane PnY 670 for a budget price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133452

And for $40 more this factory o.c. MSI

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127675

I play blizzard games at 1080p max settings. Thanks for the help.
 

toyota

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a 660ti will not be any faster with 3gb than it will be with 2gb. a 670 will be the faster card and will handle AA much better than the 660ti.

and you can get a 660ti 2gb for $239 which is way smarter than spending 100 bucks more on the 3gb model. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127711

btw do NOT get either of those 670 cards because those are reference models with the crappy coolers.
 
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blackened23

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670 2gig is the one to get. Also keep in mind that CPU power helps WoW a lot - upgrading to an ivy bridge could also potentially be helpful.
 

magomago

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based on your sig, you have a 7870... are you having issues with Blizzard games? What is driving this upgrade?
 

MrK6

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670 2gig is the one to get. Also keep in mind that CPU power helps WoW a lot - upgrading to an ivy bridge could also potentially be helpful.
He already has a 2500K @ 4.4GHz, upgrading to Ivy Bridge isn't going to add anything appreciable.

OP, a GTX 670 for $280 is a good deal, I would jump on that. The GTX 660 Ti is pretty neutered due to its lack of memory bandwidth, which makes it disproportionately slower than the GTX 670 despite them having the same GPU. Even the GTX 670 can greatly benefit from a memory overclock once installed. Any reason in particular you're not waiting for the 7870 to come back? IIRC, WoW runs better on nvidia cards, so it might not be a bad idea to pick up that GTX 670 2GB if that's your main game, I don't think you'll be disappointed.

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I agree. If WoW isn't as big a deal as I've assumed, the 7950 will handily beat the GTX 670 once overclocking is brought into the picture.
 
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hodgenutts

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The model of 7870 I had was out of stock, so they just issued a refund. So I started looking at 7950's.
Well my mom trying to be nice, went and got me a video card for Christmas. She went to the local Best Buy (I worked at years ago, so she trusted them), anyway she asked them to give her "the biggest video card they had." They sold her a factory overclocked 2gb 660ti model that's exclusive to best buy. They told her to have me try it out and if I didn't like it to just bring it back for a refund. Basically its a reference EVGA with a stock memory clock and a 78mhz o.c. on the GPU. Well since it was a gift I wondered it would work. I haven't put much research into NVIDIA cards as I had been researching 7950's. Anyway since my mother got me the card I figured I'd try it out. I could only O.C. the GPU another 70mhz and was able to squeeze 150mhz more on the memory. It ran Diablo 3 fine and Starcraft 2 great. As a matter of fact, it blew the 7870 out of the water in D3 and SC2. However, in the new expansion in world of warcraft (mists) my fps drops into the 30's at times which was worse than the 7870. Maybe its just the new expansion is glitchy, or maybe its 192 bit bus choking it, I'm not sure. I ran the free version of 3dmarl11 and pulled a score of 8347. Not sure if thats good or bad. Them mom told me after tax she paid $327 for the card. I just feel for that much money a better card could be bought. A better 660ti for cheaper if nothing else, but it looks like a 670 can be owned for that price, but an earlier poster suggested to stay away from the "reference" 670
 

Dark Shroud

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When a 660 TI goes over 1.5 GB of memory it drops down to a 128 bit buss. So yes it is the buss chocking the card. That's why there are 3GB models, those will retain the 192 bit buss rate.

Just return the thing and get a 7950. If you're into mods the 384bit buss & 3GB of vram will make you happy. Not to mention the over clocking ability of the 7900 series in general.
 
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MrK6

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Wow, nevermind what I said about WoW then, to be honest I haven't really kept up with it because I don't play it.

I agree that a much better card can be had for $327. Overall the 7950 is the best card suggested because of its superior performance and its effective but quiet custom cooler. The GTX 670 isn't terrible by any means for $280, but the reference cooler design is louder and it doesn't have as much potential when overclocking is taken into account (if that applies to you). Save any offence to your mother, try to return the GTX 660 Ti and pick up the 7950 from Newegg to save $50, get the great game bundle, and better + quieter performance.
 

toyota

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When a 660 TI goes over 1.5 GB of memory it drops down to a 128 bit buss. So yes it is the buss chocking the card.

That's what there are 3GB models, those will retain the 192 bit buss rate. Just return the thing and get a 7950. If you're into mods the 384bit buss & 3GB of vram will make you happy. Not to mention the over clocking ability of the 7900 series in general.
that is NOT true and is nothing more than a myth. hell the 3gb card was actually slower in the couple of reviews that tested one.

I had a gtx560 se that also had the 192bit bus and 1gb of vram. according to you it would only be a 128bit bus past 768mb which again was NOT true. the card scaled perfectly fine and had zero performance drop off when exceeding 768mb of vram.

please stop spreading this misinformation.
 

skipsneeky2

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That Pny for $320 is making the gears in my head turn,wondering if that is a sale price or everyday price?

Cheap sure but a good candidate for a sli configuration with a mild oc to at least match the Evga gtx670 FTW i already have.:) Should scale well for 1200p.
 

poohbear

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670 2gig is the one to get. Also keep in mind that CPU power helps WoW a lot - upgrading to an ivy bridge could also potentially be helpful.

dude, he has a SB @ 4.4ghz, ure recomending he upgrade to an Ivy bridge from a SB @ 4.4ghz??? lol right.
 

exar333

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QFT. the above card does 1100 - 1150 mhz on stock voltage and could even hit 1200 mhz with voltage tweaking. beats a GTX 670 at 100 Mhz higher running clocks. HD 7950(1200 Mhz) is faster than GTX 670(1300 Mhz).

More FUD. The OC potential is better on the 7950, but its not guaranteed. I have bought 2, one didn't hit 1000mhz, the other hit 1200. Same model (twin frozr).

Get the cheaper card, either 670 or 7950. That's the better deal.
 
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