6600GT, or should I step up to x800XL?

lousydood

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Mostly I'd use it to play games, so far World of Warcraft, and some older games. My friend got an x800XL for $250 and I'm pretty impressed by it. The 6600GT runs about $160ish from what I've seen. One of the striking differences between the cards is 128MB more Video RAM on the ATI, besides of course the chips. Still, they seem to perform similarly on the WoW test that Anandtech wrote up. Is that Video RAM going to make a difference perhaps in more crowded situations? Or is it moot?
 

lousydood

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That is precisely the article I cited. They tested in an isolated spot, however. I asked: "Does Video RAM make a difference in more crowded situations?"

Like 40 people in a raid.
 

grimlykindo

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Take it from a person who has owned BOTH of those cards:

Leadtek 6600gt (RMA after it literally caught fire)
ATI X800XL

The step up was incredible, the x800xl totally blows the 6600gt out of the water. Also the X800XL runs much cooler and stable than the 6600gt (mine idled at 56c) and my x800xl idled at 43c with the stock cooler.

Plus the 6600gt will be obsolete for gaming MUCH sooner than the x800xl. Don't let anybody tell you about SM 3.0 - your 6600gt can't play any of the new games at high detail anyway!
 

lousydood

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Thank you, that is just the sort of comparison I was looking for. The cooling issue is relevant too, as I don't have the best thermal conditions in my living room (it gets a little warm even with the A/C on).
 

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Originally posted by: grimlykindo
Take it from a person who has owned BOTH of those cards:

Leadtek 6600gt (RMA after it literally caught fire)
ATI X800XL

The step up was incredible, the x800xl totally blows the 6600gt out of the water. Also the X800XL runs much cooler and stable than the 6600gt (mine idled at 56c) and my x800xl idled at 43c with the stock cooler.

Plus the 6600gt will be obsolete for gaming MUCH sooner than the x800xl. Don't let anybody tell you about SM 3.0 - your 6600gt can't play any of the new games at high detail anyway!

I pretty much disagree with everything that guy said.
6600gt reigned the best bang for the buck category for a long time.
This card won't let you play at 1600x1200 with AA the newest games, but it will sure run them at decent resolution.
At the end its all about the money... If you have alot of it, get the 7800gtx and get it over with, but since you posted this thread you obviously don't want to spend that much right now.
I think that untill you decide to or can get one of the cutting edge cards, the 6600gt will serve you just fine as a great 'budget' gaming card.
 

narcotic

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Originally posted by: lousydood
Thank you, that is just the sort of comparison I was looking for. The cooling issue is relevant too, as I don't have the best thermal conditions in my living room (it gets a little warm even with the A/C on).

I don't say that the guy was lied, however, you're jumping to conclusions too fast.
Just because his X800xl ran cooler than his (RMA'ed) 6600gt, doesn't mean the X800 you'll get (or 6600gt for that matter) will run cool or hot.
 

Cobalt

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Originally posted by: grimlykindo
Take it from a person who has owned BOTH of those cards:

Leadtek 6600gt (RMA after it literally caught fire)
ATI X800XL

The step up was incredible, the x800xl totally blows the 6600gt out of the water. Also the X800XL runs much cooler and stable than the 6600gt (mine idled at 56c) and my x800xl idled at 43c with the stock cooler.

Plus the 6600gt will be obsolete for gaming MUCH sooner than the x800xl. Don't let anybody tell you about SM 3.0 - your 6600gt can't play any of the new games at high detail anyway!

My OC'ed Leadtek 6600GT idles at 42C. I think you had a problem with that card, heatsink was loose probably.
 

Hacp

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Also, the 6600GT is 125-135 AR right now. Monarch and ZZF has it. PCI-E too. If you want AGP, you'll have to go to 144 dollars. I would be cheap and get the 6600GT, since it can still do well in alot of this generation's games.
 

Pr0d1gy

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Originally posted by: grimlykindo
Take it from a person who has owned BOTH of those cards:

Leadtek 6600gt (RMA after it literally caught fire)
ATI X800XL

The step up was incredible, the x800xl totally blows the 6600gt out of the water. Also the X800XL runs much cooler and stable than the 6600gt (mine idled at 56c) and my x800xl idled at 43c with the stock cooler.

Plus the 6600gt will be obsolete for gaming MUCH sooner than the x800xl. Don't let anybody tell you about SM 3.0 - your 6600gt can't play any of the new games at high detail anyway!

Same real world, unbiased experience here. Owned both, shocked by the improvement $100 got me when I stepped up to the X800XL. Don't bother listening to nVidia fanboys who will post until their keyboard dies that the SM 3.0 is everything and saving $100 is more important than having the power that you really want. Take it from two guys who have owned both and, obviously, have no bias either way for ATi or nVidia...get the X800XL and thank us later.
 

grimlykindo

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Originally posted by: Pr0d1gy
Originally posted by: grimlykindo
Take it from a person who has owned BOTH of those cards:

Leadtek 6600gt (RMA after it literally caught fire)
ATI X800XL

The step up was incredible, the x800xl totally blows the 6600gt out of the water. Also the X800XL runs much cooler and stable than the 6600gt (mine idled at 56c) and my x800xl idled at 43c with the stock cooler.

Plus the 6600gt will be obsolete for gaming MUCH sooner than the x800xl. Don't let anybody tell you about SM 3.0 - your 6600gt can't play any of the new games at high detail anyway!

Same real world, unbiased experience here. Owned both, shocked by the improvement $100 got me when I stepped up to the X800XL. Don't bother listening to nVidia fanboys who will post until their keyboard dies that the SM 3.0 is everything and saving $100 is more important than having the power that you really want. Take it from two guys who have owned both and, obviously, have no bias either way for ATi or nVidia...get the X800XL and thank us later.

Thank you VERY MUCH Prodigy. I knew somebody else would agree.

If you do any type of gaming the 6600gt is a waste of time and money. Its already too slow for newer games.

Like prodigy said: I am fan of both Nvidia and ATI, but between the two cards the x800xl is the winner by far.

 

BillyBobJoel71

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the 6600gt is not equal to the x800xl, so it beats it by far. its the 128 bit memory bus the holds the 6600gt back. the 6800gt is the competitor to the x800xl.
 

coomar

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the x800xl is a great card for the money, its basically on par with the 6800gt (though the gt will overclock better) for a lot less, if you can spend the money, get the xl
 

n7

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X800XL.

Or if you have an nVidia preference, 6800GT.
 

Cobalt

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Originally posted by: grimlykindo
Originally posted by: Pr0d1gy
Originally posted by: grimlykindo
Take it from a person who has owned BOTH of those cards:

Leadtek 6600gt (RMA after it literally caught fire)
ATI X800XL

The step up was incredible, the x800xl totally blows the 6600gt out of the water. Also the X800XL runs much cooler and stable than the 6600gt (mine idled at 56c) and my x800xl idled at 43c with the stock cooler.

Plus the 6600gt will be obsolete for gaming MUCH sooner than the x800xl. Don't let anybody tell you about SM 3.0 - your 6600gt can't play any of the new games at high detail anyway!

Same real world, unbiased experience here. Owned both, shocked by the improvement $100 got me when I stepped up to the X800XL. Don't bother listening to nVidia fanboys who will post until their keyboard dies that the SM 3.0 is everything and saving $100 is more important than having the power that you really want. Take it from two guys who have owned both and, obviously, have no bias either way for ATi or nVidia...get the X800XL and thank us later.

Thank you VERY MUCH Prodigy. I knew somebody else would agree.

If you do any type of gaming the 6600gt is a waste of time and money. Its already too slow for newer games.

Like prodigy said: I am fan of both Nvidia and ATI, but between the two cards the x800xl is the winner by far.

I suggest the X800XL also but the 6600GT is NOT to slow for newer games... I play BF2, CS:S/HL2, etc. on mine fine. Settings high, etc.
 

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Originally posted by: grimlykindo
Take it from a person who has owned BOTH of those cards:

Leadtek 6600gt (RMA after it literally caught fire)
ATI X800XL

The step up was incredible, the x800xl totally blows the 6600gt out of the water. Also the X800XL runs much cooler and stable than the 6600gt (mine idled at 56c) and my x800xl idled at 43c with the stock cooler.

Plus the 6600gt will be obsolete for gaming MUCH sooner than the x800xl. Don't let anybody tell you about SM 3.0 - your 6600gt can't play any of the new games at high detail anyway!



You got a dud 6600GT if it idled t 56C. My LeadTek 6600GT idles at 44C stock.

And frankly, I see the X800XL and 6600GT becoming obsolete for gaming at the same time. Next gen engines are going to destroy pretty much everything but the GeForce 7 series/R520 and higher.


Anyway, the 6600GT runs newer games like Battlefield 2, Doom 3, Far Cry, etc. just fine on all high settings at perfectly acceptable resolutions like 12x10.

Bottom line: X800XL will get you a bit more eye candy now, but with Unreal Engine 3 coming next year, I'd rather have a 6600GT to dispose of in 6 months-ish to move up to a card that will actually handle next gen games with all the eye-candy...
 

akshayt

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for games like doom3, with aa of sometime/res 6600gt might compete x800xl

but overall x800xl competes 6800gt more or less ,sometimes it may even better better





consider 6800gt,
don't x800 have probs?

also,6800gt has sm 3.0 or something,more future proof

also,dx 9c and beter graphics maybe because of all this etc
 

dfloyd

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If your going for bang for buck the 6800 OC seems to be about the best.

But comparing the X800XL to the 6600GT, its not even close. The X800XL stomps all over it in just about any situiation imagineable and is a much better card, both for now and for the future. (Which matters alot if you dont like upgrading every six months.

Honestly with the prices of the 6800 OC so low right now there really is no reason to even consider a 6600 GT. Eithe rget the 6800 OC or step on up to a X800XL or better.
 

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Sorry guys, I just don't see what's so horrible about the 6600GT. I have one and it's just fine with my AXP 2500+ Barton. I guess if you're a real eye-candy freak then it's worth blowing a wad of money on a card, but then again I only upgrade every 2-3 years. The 6600GT runs BF2 great, there's no way it's obsolete by any standards for "current games". And yeah with my pitiful CPU I get great framerates even w/ 2xAA on. But I guess on these forums, anything over 2 weeks old is obsolete and crappy... check back next week, the 7800GTX will be considered a poopy card because it's more than a few weeks old. :)

From a cheapskate, I'd save the $100 by getting the 6600GT and buy more system memory, it'll probably help more than a faster video card anyway... what good is 150FPS if your system is too busy caching to disk?
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Rogue 2
Sorry guys, I just don't see what's so horrible about the 6600GT. I have one and it's just fine with my AXP 2500+ Barton. I guess if you're a real eye-candy freak then it's worth blowing a wad of money on a card, but then again I only upgrade every 2-3 years. The 6600GT runs BF2 great, there's no way it's obsolete by any standards for "current games". And yeah with my pitiful CPU I get great framerates even w/ 2xAA on. But I guess on these forums, anything over 2 weeks old is obsolete and crappy... check back next week, the 7800GTX will be considered a poopy card because it's more than a few weeks old. :)

From a cheapskate, I'd save the $100 by getting the 6600GT and buy more system memory, it'll probably help more than a faster video card anyway... what good is 150FPS if your system is too busy caching to disk?

It's not horrible by itself, but compared to the 800xl it is. At least when performance is the main criteria.
 

Icopoli

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ok the bunch that are talking out of their asses, learn what fill rate is, then come back here and attempt a normal conversation.