6600GT FPS

[Paintballfreak66]

I'm running a new MSI 6600GT with drivers 76.45 and I average about 30-40fps playing counterstrike source at 1024x768. Sometimes, when the game is really busy, the fps drop down to under twenty and its kind of annoying since I just payed 200 bucks for it.
I'll post my 3DMark05 when I get home, I can't remember the score I got.
My system specs are:
the above video card
P4 2.66
ECS L4VXA2 mobo
1gig ram
monitor refresh rate @ 85Hz

I guess I'm just wondering if it shouldn't be running the game better or if it is a processor issue because that's what I was planning on upgrading next. Any suggestions would be great.

 

[Appledrop]

Is AA / AF enabled?

 

[Emultra]

I also get medium to low FPS in CS:S, even though I play at 10x7 and medium/low settings with no AA/AF.

In HL2 I get better FPS with 2AA/4AF with high details.

Though I'm told that the Source engine quite substantially favours ATI cards.

Oh, and BTW, I too have a 6600GT.

 

[Paintballfreak66]

AA and AF are both disabled. I know source favors ati but I can't help but think that a 200 dollar video card should be able to do better. Does anyone else think so?

 

[Appledrop]

Originally posted by: Emultra
I also get medium to low FPS in CS:S, even though I play at 10x7 and medium/low settings with no AA/AF.

In HL2 I get better FPS with 2AA/4AF with high details.

Though I'm told that the Source engine quite substantially favours ATI cards.

Oh, and BTW, I too have a 6600GT.

that must mean you have a cpu bottleneck then me thinks, as CSS likes a fast cpu, but hl2 is not quite so demanding in that area usually.

 

[Emultra]

Well, I got an A64 3200+ Winchester.

 

[Paintballfreak66]

Alright, so does anyone have any suggestions for me to try? I plan to upgrade my motherboard to an asus and buy an Athlon 64 3500 clawhammer. That would increase my performance wouldn't it?

 

[Emultra]

Uhm, is there a Clawhammer for the A64?

And yes, it would increase your performance. Though the problem might still be there. The upgrade itself, however, is of course warmly recommended nonetheless.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: Paintballfreak66
Alright, so does anyone have any suggestions for me to try? I plan to upgrade my motherboard to an asus and buy an Athlon 64 3500 clawhammer. That would increase my performance wouldn't it?

Definately... that P4 2.66 is crap.

 

[Appledrop]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: Paintballfreak66
Alright, so does anyone have any suggestions for me to try? I plan to upgrade my motherboard to an asus and buy an Athlon 64 3500 clawhammer. That would increase my performance wouldn't it?

Definately... that P4 2.66 is crap.

its not crap... but yeh a64 a lot better, chuck that p4 on ebay and you will get $100 at least.

 

[Paintballfreak66]

Originally posted by: Emultra
Uhm, is there a Clawhammer for the A64?

And yes, it would increase your performance. Though the problem might still be there. The upgrade itself, however, is of course warmly recommended nonetheless.

yes there is A64 3500 clawhammer

 

[josepavento]

I went from a 2.6c to a 3500 clawhammer (the 2.6c was overclocked to 3.0 if I remember right).

Huge difference. Not counterstrike but..in America's Army my fps would bog down to 14 on some maps (with 1 gig of pc3200 and a 6600gt w/ the P4). On those same maps, I get no less than 50 fps, with the highs much higher. I was planning to upgrade my video card after I got the new cpu, but I can play any map at 1280x1024 with no problems. You will see a huge difference by going with a faster cpu. I'm still in shock of the difference it made (its not like my 2.6c oc'd was that "slow").

 

[Emultra]

Originally posted by: Paintballfreak66

yes there is A64 3500 clawhammer

OK. I'm an "inexperienced player" when it comes to hardware.

By the way, I found something. Is your card PCI Express? If so, check this out: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/2004-27gpu2_14.html

You'll see that the AGP version of the 6600GT has overall much better performance in CS:S than the PCIe version. At the bottom it says it occured when they updated the game to the [then] latest version. That should be it, both for you and for me.
At 10x7 without AA/AF, the AGP version has about twice the amount of FPS.
Something's not right...granted, the AGP one *may* have 256MB's of VRAM, but that should in no way account for such differences.

Hopefully it will be fixed; we should lobby for it.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: Azzy64

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: Paintballfreak66
Alright, so does anyone have any suggestions for me to try? I plan to upgrade my motherboard to an asus and buy an Athlon 64 3500 clawhammer. That would increase my performance wouldn't it?

Definately... that P4 2.66 is crap.

its not crap... but yeh a64 a lot better, chuck that p4 on ebay and you will get $100 at least.

For gaming... it's crap.

 

[Emultra]

Let's not turn this into a flamewar: there is a poster here who has a problem and wants to find a solution for it.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: Emultra
Let's not turn this into a flamewar: there is a poster here who has a problem and wants to find a solution for it.

And I'm saying his processor is the problem. Since it's a 2.66, I'm assuming it's a P4B with a 533 Mhz FSB and single channel memory. A 2.4C with dual channel memory will probably outperform it.

 

[Insomniak]

My 6600GT chews CS: Source up and spits it out. ~100-150 FPS most of the time.

 

[Emultra]

To Jeff and Insomniak:

Then why do I have a similar problem with an A64 and 6600GT?

 

[Paintballfreak66]

Originally posted by: Insomniak
My 6600GT chews CS: Source up and spits it out. ~100-150 FPS most of the time.

Yes and look at the rest of your system compared to mine not to mention yours is oc'ed. That's what I think the problem is so I'll go about getting my new mobo and cpu. Thanks for the help.

EDIT: My current 3dm05 is 2934. what do you guys think in relation to my system?

 

[Dkcode]

Azzy i know this is off topic but what idle and load temps + what vcore do u have set to achive your overclock?

Thanks.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: Emultra
To Jeff and Insomniak:

Then why do I have a similar problem with an A64 and 6600GT?

Good question... I don't have a problem with my 2.6 GHz A64 and 6800GT... and I run 4XAA and 8XAF. What do you get in the Stress Test?

 

[Emultra]

120-140 I think. But when I look at that test, it's like a different game to CS:S in terms of smoothness.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: Emultra
120-140 I think. But when I look at that test, it's like a different game to CS:S in terms of smoothness.

True... but any obvious problems would be visible in the Stress Test too.

How much RAM do you have?

 

[Emultra]

1024MB Corsair.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: Emultra
1024MB Corsair.

Odd... what about your in game video settings?