6600GT AGP review on front page.

Rage187

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unfvcking believeable.


32% faster in Source over the 9800pro(?).


Had I not bought my shuttle the 6800oc for $249 from BB, I would jump on it.
 

amheck

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I found this comment from AT very interesting

"The GeForce 6600GT AGP runs at the same core clock speed as the PCI Express version (500MHz) but has a slightly lower memory clock (900MHz vs. 1GHz on the PCI Express version). By lowering the memory clock NVIDIA helps to offset the additional cost of the PCI Express-to-AGP bridge. "

Does it really cost more to have something run at a higher frequency? I wouldn't have guessed that.
 
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Originally posted by: amheck
I found this comment from AT very interesting

"The GeForce 6600GT AGP runs at the same core clock speed as the PCI Express version (500MHz) but has a slightly lower memory clock (900MHz vs. 1GHz on the PCI Express version). By lowering the memory clock NVIDIA helps to offset the additional cost of the PCI Express-to-AGP bridge. "

Does it really cost more to have something run at a higher frequency? I wouldn't have guessed that.

When I first read that, it sounded like they were referring to "cost" in terms of the card's resources and not dollars.
 

Rage187

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If the memory couldnt do 1000mhz, they couldnt use it.

For every piece of material that is not up to spec = money they lose.

 

Matthias99

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: amheck
I found this comment from AT very interesting

"The GeForce 6600GT AGP runs at the same core clock speed as the PCI Express version (500MHz) but has a slightly lower memory clock (900MHz vs. 1GHz on the PCI Express version). By lowering the memory clock NVIDIA helps to offset the additional cost of the PCI Express-to-AGP bridge. "

Does it really cost more to have something run at a higher frequency? I wouldn't have guessed that.

When I first read that, it sounded like they were referring to "cost" in terms of the card's resources and not dollars.

They also might be using 2.2ns RAM (900Mhz) instead of 2.0ns (1000Mhz). It's not very clear.

Certainly this thing beats a 9800Pro hands-down at a similar price point (and, heck, it beats the X800Pro in Doom3...) A bit disappointing in its AA/AF performance, though.

Again, when 4x AA is enabled, the midrange 6600GT isn't able to scale as well with some of the higher end cards of the previous generation.

It's actually slower than the 9800Pro in a couple of cases with AA enabled (UT2K4 and FarCry, and they're close in CS:S, Wolf:ET, and BF:V). The 128-bit memory seems to hurt it pretty bad when you turn on the eye candy (although it would be nice to see more performance numbers along these lines). But aside from that, it looks to be a very good card (and certainly far better than the FX5900 line for the $200 pricepoint).
 

Pete

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Originally posted by: amheck
Does it really cost more to have something run at a higher frequency? I wouldn't have guessed that.

In the same way you pay more for a V6 than a V4, so nV pays more for 500MHz GDDR3 than they do for 450MHz GDDR3. The closer to the process edge (the highest speeds available from a specific manufacturing implementation) you get, the lower the yields of parts usable at that edge, thus the higher the cost of production. Slower memory is cheaper simply because manufacturers can make more of it using the same amount of time and materials.

(Car analogy++.)
 

AvalanWong

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Does anybody know if the 6600GT works fine in AGP 4x ? that's what my current motherboard can do and I'd like to use a 6600GT there while I get an upgrade.
TiA.

PS: I tried to create a topic but for some reason I couldn't.
 

gururu

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neweeg:
9800pro: 190.00
6600GT: 245.00

how can you compare these two cards? LOL
 

boyRacer

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Originally posted by: gururu
neweeg:
9800pro: 190.00
6600GT: 245.00

how can you compare these two cards? LOL

those 9800 pros are out of stock :(

6600GT is $220 at buy.com
 

boyRacer

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Originally posted by: gururu
I bet on Black Friday we'll see some 150 dollar 9800pros.

well i'm waiting for anything to drop... you got these brand spanking new cards out and 9800s are still ~ $200 :(
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: gururu
neweeg:
9800pro: 190.00
6600GT: 245.00

how can you compare these two cards? LOL

6600gt is suppose to have a retail price of like $199 or something, but there aren't many of them out so I think the price is inflated currently due to demand.

The 9800pro's price will also drop soon I suspect, however.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: bR
Originally posted by: gururu
I bet on Black Friday we'll see some 150 dollar 9800pros.

well i'm waiting for anything to drop... you got these brand spanking new cards out and 9800s are still ~ $200 :(

You got that right. I think I'm going to wait until after christmas...maybe I'll be able to snag some sweet refurbs off newegg or something. Newegg probably has a boatload of refurbs right after christmas wouldn't you think?
 

CptObvious

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: bR
Originally posted by: gururu
I bet on Black Friday we'll see some 150 dollar 9800pros.

well i'm waiting for anything to drop... you got these brand spanking new cards out and 9800s are still ~ $200 :(

You got that right. I think I'm going to wait until after christmas...maybe I'll be able to snag some sweet refurbs off newegg or something. Newegg probably has a boatload of refurbs right after christmas wouldn't you think?
From what I've heard, Newegg refurbs aren't what they used to be. I got my R8500 from them a few years back as a refurb, and it appeared new with everything included. Now it seems the cards are hit-or-miss, with a large % of them DOA
 

RacerX

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well i'm waiting for anything to drop... you got these brand spanking new cards out and 9800s are still ~ $200

you should peruse the FS/T forum .. I just sold a like new & excellent performing (415/350) VisionTek 9800Pro w/ an Artic Silencer for $140 shipped free 2nd day air.
 

KayKay

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6600gt is suppose to have a retail price of like $199 or something, but there aren't many of them out so I think the price is inflated currently due to demand

I certainly hope so, this card is looking really good.

The XFX card has 1000 mhz Ram Speed so other companies coming out with this card should follow suit.
The games bundle is a little weak though, shoulda been a free copy of doom 3
;)
 

nRollo

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Originally posted by: KayKay
6600gt is suppose to have a retail price of like $199 or something, but there aren't many of them out so I think the price is inflated currently due to demand

I certainly hope so, this card is looking really good.

The XFX card has 1000 mhz Ram Speed so other companies coming out with this card should follow suit.
The games bundle is a little weak though, shoulda been a free copy of doom 3
;)

And HL2 too! :roll:
 

KayKay

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Originally posted by: Matthias99
They also might be using 2.2ns RAM (900Mhz) instead of 2.0ns (1000Mhz). It's not very clear.

from HERE
"Sure enough, NVIDIA uses the same Samsung 2.0ns GDDR3 modules for the GeForce 6600 GT AGP as they do for the PCI Express card and the GeForce 6800 GT"