6600 GT AGP Woes

yodaut

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I've been having problems with the XFX Geforce 6600 GT AGP card I just purchased, and I thought I should run the problems I'm having by you guys once before I RMA my the card:

System Specs:
Athlon XP 2600+ (266 FSB)
ECS K7S5A Pro Motherboard (yes, it sucks)
768 MB DDR RAM (1x512 PC2700 DIMM, 1x256 PC2100 DIMM)
200 GB Seagate HD
SoundBlaster Audigy 1
XFX Geforce 6600 GT AGP (128 MB, running in AGP 4x mode)
450W Power Supply
Windows XP SP2 with DirectX 9.0c

Okay. Here's the deal: If I'm playing a game that uses Direct3D as the primary rendering engine, I get very awful texture tearing/bleeding all the time. The games I've tried thus far are Far Cry, Prince of Persia Sands of Time, Persia of Persia 2: Warrior Within Demo, Manhunt, Max Payne 2 and most importantly, Half-Life 2.

Games which use OpenGL such as Doom 3 and Far Cry (using OpenGL as the renderer) do not seem to exhibit any graphical problems at all.

I've checked the temp. of the graphics core using the driver's properties page while playing Far Cry and HL2 in a window, and it never goes above 70 degrees Celsius. The driver properties page claims that the threshold is 127 degrees C, so I don't believe its a heat issue.

Earlier today, I purchased a new 450W power supply to ensure that it wasn't a power issue. It's labeled "Mad Dog Multimedia" SurePower 450W Power Supply. I purchased this PSU as my previous one did not have enough molex connections for all of my devices without having to Y-Split one of them. In fact, this PSU has a dedicated Molex for Video Card connections (like the one on the 6600 GT AGP).

Since things function correctly under one rendering method but not another, it seems like it may be a driver issue. Right now, I've only tried the 66.93 WHQL'd drivers from Nvidia and the 67.02 Drivers that are floating around the web. Regardless of the driver version, the D3D problems still occur.

So right now, I'm down to three possibilities:
1.) It's an Nvidia Driver issue which only occurs in certain rare cases, perhaps on machines using older/crappier motherboards.

2.) It's an issue with my motherboard, as ECS K7S5A series of boards are notorious for their odd problems/incompatibilies with a number of different things. Also, the board only supports AGP 4X which should not be an issue, but with this motherboard, I'm not certain.

3.) The card is defective.

If anyone has any suggestions, questions, or has come across a similar issue, any input would be greatly appreciated. I've been wrestling with this problem for close to a week now, and I'm running out of ideas as to what could be the source of the problem.

If I left out any information, let me know, if it would be helpful for me provided screenshots, let me know.

Thanks in advance.
 

daveybrat

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2.) It's an issue with my motherboard, as ECS K7S5A series of boards are notorious for their odd problems/incompatibilies with a number of different things. Also, the board only supports AGP 4X which should not be an issue, but with this motherboard, I'm not certain.

I'm going with solution number 2! Time go get a nice Nforce2 motherboard i'd say :)
 

Matthias99

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Originally posted by: daveybrat
2.) It's an issue with my motherboard, as ECS K7S5A series of boards are notorious for their odd problems/incompatibilies with a number of different things. Also, the board only supports AGP 4X which should not be an issue, but with this motherboard, I'm not certain.

I'm going with solution number 2! Time go get a nice Nforce2 motherboard i'd say :)

I'd lean towards that, although replacing one crappy power supply with *another* crappy power supply is not a brilliant move (IMO). I'd rather have a good 300W or 350W PSU than a dirt-cheap 450W. I doubt you'd even pull 200W at full load with your system, let alone 400W.
 

TAL0N

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I suspect it's a driver conflict issue, but not necessarily what you listed in 1).

Video drivers are notorious for leaving bits and pieces behind when uninstalled, which can lead to problems when drivers are upgraded. Try using Driver Cleaner and see if that solves the problem.
 

batmanuel

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I had similar issues with an ECS K7VTA3 mobo I got as part of a Fry's bundle. Major corruption in Direct X when using an 8X AGP FX5200 (but the board was fine with a 4X card). Even after a complete hard drive wipe and reinstall of Windows the card would never work with that board.

I've heard a lot of other people having similar issues using 8X cards on the older ECS boards. The only way you're proably going to get your new card to work is a motherboard upgrade. The Shuttle AN35N is a cheap but good nForce2-based mobo that should get you going with the new card. It's just a little over $50 at NewEgg.
 

yodaut

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Just to give you guys an update:

Y'all hit it right on the head. It was the motherboard. I went after work today and picked up an ABIT Nforce2 based board, hooked it up, had to re-install windows xp, and everything worked like a charm.
Looks like my ECS mobo that was worth $30 a year ago turns out its worth much, much less now.

Just wanted to say HUGE thanks to you guys for all your help.

Word to the wise: Never get an ECS board. Don't even recieve one as gift. Friends don't let friends ECS.
 

CraigRT

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Originally posted by: yodaut

Word to the wise: Never get an ECS board. Don't even recieve one as gift. Friends don't let friends ECS.

Sorry to break it to you, but most people already knew about ECS... ;)

I would never buy that junk ever for my own personal system.

 

yodaut

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Nov 28, 2004
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As a followup:

Excerpt from the nvidia 67.03 reference driver release notes:

"This following are changes made and issues resolved since driver version 67.02:
? GeForce 6600 GT AGP: Fixed a 3D corruption problem that appears
when this card is used with certain motherboards, such as SIS
motherboards."

Yeah, so the ECS K7S5A Pro Board is SiS based...

Oh well. I've got my nForce board now and I'm sticking to it.
 

Cawchy87

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I remember a post a while back where a guy couldn't use anything but BBA on his ECS board. Sapphire would freak out and then put in the same card but BBA and it was fine. You made a wise investment :)
 

MustangSVT

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hmmm.. odd..

did you try reinstalling XP with k7s5a pro?

im using k7s5a... yep.. oooold... with xp2100+ and it has been working like a champ for few years...

with 6800 ..

oh well at least u got the problem resolved ;)