I bought a unlocked thunderbird 650 from Compgeeks, it was $62 after the MC discount, it arrived yesterday, dropped it in the MSI K7T Pro-2A, and it would post at 850, but not stable ME would crash loading, dropped it to 800 at 1.75volts and it runs perfect, max temp 39c under load with a CoolerMaster fan. I wanted 900 but got only 800, I guess I might have to give it to my son, he's running a Celeron at 550.