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Kedas

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Well we know now how they will bridge the long wait to Zen4 on AM5 Q4 2022.
Production start for V-cache is end this year so too early for Zen4 so this is certainly coming to AM4.
+15% Lisa said is "like an entire architectural generation"
 
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DrMrLordX

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I'm sure some stores will mark them differently (but then they are bound not to fall as much in price as the no-B2 chips, heh).

I mean you can look for the dates on the lid I think . . . and return ones that look too old. Pretty sure you can see the lid through the little window in the box.
 
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What? Zen 4 might launch in APRIL!?


Another link (he's skeptical)


Where has this crap started from? Sounds like someone said Q2/April and it was repeated over and over again until it was thought of as fact.

H2 2022. They may be able to bring up to Q3 2022, but we shall see.
 
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If this is true, AMD may be getting something else ready to counter Raptor Lake. If they have warehouses full of CPU's ready to sell, they are probably thinking, why wait? Let's demolish Intel NOW.
 
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Why bother with the 5800X3D then?
As an upgrade path for their existing 5000 series or 3000 series customers. Originally when they announced V-cache, I think they didn't believe Intel would release something as good as 12th gen, especially the high volume parts that are giving great single threaded performance at a lower price than AMD.

This is my friend's i5-12400 ($208 at Newegg) without HT and CL15 DDR4-3000: ASUS System Product Name - Geekbench Browser

Ryzen 5600X ($260 at Newegg): AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Benchmarks - Geekbench Browser

Also, Zen 3 inventory could be nearing its end so Zen 4 may need to launch early to keep AMD in the game.
 

deasd

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5800X3D looks just to be a symbolic product after all. Zen4 is around the corner since AMD decide to accelerate AM5 release. For old AMD users with mobo who aren't interested in DDR5 might be the potential buyers.
 

DrMrLordX

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What? Zen 4 might launch in APRIL!?

It's a rumour. I wouldn't take it for granted though. April/May is about when AMD should be launching a new gen product, but that doesn't mean they're gonna do it.

Originally when they announced V-cache, I think they didn't believe Intel would release something as good as 12th gen

I mean, it ain't that good.
 

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because K6-III was largely vaporware at the announcement.

Reason being the K6-III was the last thing on the order list. It was made when everything else was fulfilled. Not to mention being a rather large die due to the massive (for the time) 256KB on-chip L2 cache.

We had one at work. Was a real beast back then. That L2 coupled with 2MB onboard L3 kicked butt. Never did manage to get one for myself however.
 

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Reason being the K6-III was the last thing on the order list. It was made when everything else was fulfilled. Not to mention being a rather large die due to the massive (for the time) 256KB on-chip L2 cache.

We had one at work. Was a real beast back then. That L2 coupled with 2MB onboard L3 kicked butt. Never did manage to get one for myself however.

I got one. It was a hell of beast with Win2K.
Overclocked like.... Well it did not.

I wish I could get K6-II+ or K6-III+ but could not.
 

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Where has this crap started from? Sounds like someone said Q2/April and it was repeated over and over again until it was thought of as fact.

H2 2022. They may be able to bring up to Q3 2022, but we shall see.
If this is true, AMD may be getting something else ready to counter Raptor Lake. If they have warehouses full of CPU's ready to sell, they are probably thinking, why wait? Let's demolish Intel NOW.
It's a rumour. I wouldn't take it for granted though. April/May is about when AMD should be launching a new gen product, but that doesn't mean they're gonna do it.



I mean, it ain't that good.

The “source” is a guy on twitter. He is wrong. AMD would have Zen 4 in mass production by now. They do not. AMD themselves have stated H2. Zen 4 is likely to be announced at computex and launched Q3.
 
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DrMrLordX

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AMD would have Zen 4 in mass production by now. They do not.

Kinda the wrong thread to go down that road but . . . you sure about that? That includes Genoa ya know.

With Zen 4, they might refresh everything from top to bottom.

It should be clear by now that AMD isn't using Vermeer-X to fill in any significant part of their lineup; that being said, I think it's more likely that AMD will slot desktop Rembrandt into the 6c-and-below slots and reserve Raphael for 8c and higher.
 
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I think it's more likely that AMD will slot desktop Rembrandt into the 6c-and-below slots and reserve Raphael for 8c and higher.
Rembrandt Splinter may cater to the 6-core and below segment but then they can't match Intel in pricing for the iGPU-less F variants. So if they go this route, they will still leave plenty of profits on the table for Intel.

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