64% of Americans believe Big Government is the biggest threat

[woolfe9999]

That is so ass backwards it isn't even funny, but since it seems most people that call themselves liberals nowadays are really progressives it's no wonder. It's almost surreal seeing "liberals" going on, and on about how good government is, while going on about how the right wing is the loony anti-government crowd. If you had explained this to a liberal from the 60-90's you'd probably get a deer in the head lights look.

At what time in recent history have "liberals" supported things like privatizing social security, making Medicare into a voucher, shutting down all public assistance for the poor, and cutting taxes for the wealthy? Funny, I can't recall liberals in the 80's or 90's supporting any of those stances. I'm probably too young to remember back much further than the mid-70's, but I think you're making a false distinction here.

 

[actuarial]

They did as they were ordered at the same time that many lost their retirements because they could not prevent their pensions from being raided some decades ago, a practice that was government approved. When you do as you are ordered you don't have any real choice do you? Conform or be cast out is the least of their concerns.

You mean they followed the law? Do you also consider paying income taxes as 'doing as you are ordered'? They currently expect more benefit then they paid for, plain and simple.

And the 'lost their retirements because they could not prevent their pensions from being raided' is an argument for more government intervention, not less.

 

[monovillage]

Who doesn't think that paying their taxes is "doing as you are ordered"?

 

[Jhhnn]

The article states "The all-time high for percentage of people who said big government was the biggest threat to the country was in 1999 and 2000, when 65 percent named it the country’s biggest menace."

So I guess your Patriot Act theory gets tossed out. As for anti government ravers, it looks like 64% of the population is by your definition a "raver". Maybe you should change your definitions to match reality?

Oh, please. Right-Repubs said little about big gubmint when Reagan was running it & grew it, raved incessantly about it when Clinton was in charge, STFU during the Bush years when govt grew at the highest rate since the Great Society, and are now back at it again with Obama in charge.

Yes- propaganda works. Repubs depend on it. Big Gubmint is only bad when they're not in charge, peachy when they are. Same for deficits. And people are swayed back & forth by their pronouncements & prognostications in the so-called Libruhl Media.

 

[BoberFett]

Big government is good when it tries to feed the poor.

Big government is bad when it tries to punish you for what you do in your bedroom.

Thank you liberals of America! Carry on the good fight.

You really think you can get one without the other? Big government changes at the whim of those in charge, and those in charge change at the whim of a fickle citizenry. Government big enough to enforce the laws you like is big enough to enforce those you don't.

 

[senseamp]

I don't know, look it up.

http://www.americans-world.org/digest/regional_issues/Conflict_Iraq/weapons_MassDest.cfm

Interestingly 66% believed Saddam posed an imminent threat to the US, and 62% believed he had WMDs and would use them on the US. So percentage of useful idiots does seem consistent with the 64% result of this poll.

 

[Jhhnn]

http://www.americans-world.org/digest/regional_issues/Conflict_Iraq/weapons_MassDest.cfm

Interestingly 66% believed Saddam posed an imminent threat to the US, and 62% believed he had WMDs and would use them on the US. So percentage of useful idiots does seem consistent with the 64% result of this poll.

Well, you gotta figure that they already had 20-25%, the whack-o-matic base of the Repub party who'll believe anything Rush or Fox News tells 'em... and it's apparently pretty easy to bandwagon the rest with enough repetition.

 

[monovillage]

http://www.americans-world.org/digest/regional_issues/Conflict_Iraq/weapons_MassDest.cfm

Interestingly 66% believed Saddam posed an imminent threat to the US, and 62% believed he had WMDs and would use them on the US. So percentage of useful idiots does seem consistent with the 64% result of this poll.

Yes, useful idiots that believe what the government tells them as opposed to this poll which is what journalists tell us about the government. It's fools and tools that trust in the Government and trust the Government to do "the right thing".

 

[monovillage]

Well, you gotta figure that they already had 20-25%, the whack-o-matic base of the Repub party who'll believe anything Rush or Fox News tells 'em... and it's apparently pretty easy to bandwagon the rest with enough repetition.

You keep trying to act as if anyone that considers Big Government is a threat is some kind of right wing Fox type, it's obvious from this poll that a large majority of Independents and almost half of Democrats agree. You're the one living in fantasy left-wing nut land, not the people in the poll.

 

[Jhhnn]

You keep trying to act as if anyone that considers Big Government is a threat is some kind of right wing Fox type, it's obvious from this poll that a large majority of Independents and almost half of Democrats agree. You're the one living in fantasy left-wing nut land, not the people in the poll.

Hee-hee. The reasons that Liberals see big govt as a threat are all the things Righties think it should be, and many of the things they've already made it.

 

[monovillage]

Hee-hee. The reasons that Liberals see big govt as a threat are all the things Righties think it should be, and many of the things they've already made it.

The fact will remain that 64% of the American people see Big Government as their greatest threat. It isn't just conservatives or Republicans or Tea Party members, it's all Americans. Labeling someone that doesn't trust Big Government as a nut, or an extremist has been proven to be a lie. It will still be used by those on the far left, but not those that care about being honest or accurate.