64 Bit Vista or 32 Bit Vista?!

[mad0maxx]

64 Bit Vista or 32 Bit Vista?! Which one would be better for the long run?

 

[DanTMWTMP]

do you have a TRUE 64-bit chip, or a 32-bit chip?

 

[mad0maxx]

Never knew there was such a difference... so whats the difference? lol

 

[DanTMWTMP]

Originally posted by: mad0maxx
Never knew there was such a difference... so whats the difference? lol

If you have a true 64-bit server cpu (Itanium/Xenon/etc...) then, use win64. IF you have a x86 desktop cpu (doesn't matter if it's 32/64), then you use win32.

 

[mad0maxx]

Cool I found alot of articles elaborating on your response thanks ^_^

 

[Lazy8s]

Well, since they will both be on the same CD I guess you'll get to find out yourself. 😉

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP

Originally posted by: mad0maxx
Never knew there was such a difference... so whats the difference? lol

If you have a true 64-bit server cpu (Itanium/Xenon/etc...) then, use win64. IF you have a x86 desktop cpu (doesn't matter if it's 32/64), then you use win32.

Why?

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP

Originally posted by: mad0maxx
Never knew there was such a difference... so whats the difference? lol

If you have a true 64-bit server cpu (Itanium/Xenon/etc...) then, use win64. IF you have a x86 desktop cpu (doesn't matter if it's 32/64), then you use win32.

eh, no


Itanium is the IA64 instruction set
Xenon is a RISC processor

The 64bit version if windows runs on the x86-64 instruction set, the 32bit version runs on x86-32 instruction set.

The x86-64 instruction set is as every bit true 64bit as the IA64 and RISC sets.

x86-64 processors include the 64bit AMD and Intel desktop cpu's.

edit
and a "server cpu" is just any cpu you use on a server

 

[Czar]

and regarding vista, the 64bit version has to have signed drivers for everything, the 32bit version doesnt require signed drivers

 

[DanTMWTMP]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP

Originally posted by: mad0maxx
Never knew there was such a difference... so whats the difference? lol

If you have a true 64-bit server cpu (Itanium/Xenon/etc...) then, use win64. IF you have a x86 desktop cpu (doesn't matter if it's 32/64), then you use win32.

eh, no


Itanium is the IA64 instruction set
Xenon is a RISC processor

The 64bit version of windows runs on the x86-64 instruction set, the 32bit version runs on x86-32 instruction set.

The x86-64 instruction set is as every bit true 64bit as the IA64 and RISC sets.

x86-64 processors include the 64bit AMD and Intel desktop cpu's.

edit
and a "server cpu" is just any cpu you use on a server

ah ok. excuse my ignorance 🙂. I thought the win64 was only for true 64's. I've never tried it myself, but that was what I gathered from reading around. I never really got into the details of it, however.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP

Originally posted by: mad0maxx
Never knew there was such a difference... so whats the difference? lol

If you have a true 64-bit server cpu (Itanium/Xenon/etc...) then, use win64. IF you have a x86 desktop cpu (doesn't matter if it's 32/64), then you use win32.

eh, no


Itanium is the IA64 instruction set
Xenon is a RISC processor

The 64bit version of windows runs on the x86-64 instruction set, the 32bit version runs on x86-32 instruction set.

The x86-64 instruction set is as every bit true 64bit as the IA64 and RISC sets.

x86-64 processors include the 64bit AMD and Intel desktop cpu's.

edit
and a "server cpu" is just any cpu you use on a server

ah ok. excuse my ignorance 🙂. I thought the win64 was only for true 64's. I've never tried it myself, but that was what I gathered from reading around. I never really got into the details of it, however.

🙂

the x86-64 is true 64bit, its just a continuation on the x86 instruction set

same as when x86 became 16bit and 32bit

 

[bunnyfubbles]

32bit if you don't want to put up with as much hassle, 64bit is still very much new territory

of course you might be required to run 32bit if you only have an x86 CPU and thus have no choice in the matter

 

[AgentJean]

Originally posted by: Czar
and regarding vista, the 64bit version has to have signed drivers for everything, the 32bit version doesnt require signed drivers

Guess Microsoft wants a 64bit computing tax to require signed drivers.

For those that don't know. In order to get signed you must pay Microsoft.
The same is true to get the Nvidia and ATI certified or "best played" on stamp.

 

[nitromullet]

With Vista it's still up in the air... Right now Vista 32-bit already has better driver support than 64-bit Vista. However, this may change over time. With XP in the otherhand, go with 32-bit. There is absolutely no benefit to running Windows XP Pro x64, unless you consider having less driver support and running all your apps under WoW64 because there are still almost no 64-bit apps a benefit. About the only 64-bit app you will run is IE and maybe HL2 if you haven't already played it.

It's a shame actually that MS didn't come out with Vista as a 64-bit OS only. It would have been a good way to (finally) transition over to 64-bit. As it stands it looks like 64-bit desktops (running a 64-bit OS) will remain a minority.

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: mad0maxx
64 Bit Vista or 32 Bit Vista?! Which one would be better for the long run?

Which is better, Honda Odessy or Honda NSX? Same sort of question. The mini-van can take all the kids on those long family trips. The NSX can take two people somewhere really quick. As long as you have a 2 year old in a car seat (a legacy app with a device driver for special hardware), the NSX is not recommended.

And in the longrun, Vista will be replaced along with any apps that require 32-bit OSs. So, it is all relative. If you have only apps that run as 64-bit, go 64. Depending on your 32-bit apps, go 64 or stay 32. There is no one answer for everyone. Sorry 🙂

 

[Stuxnet]

Sounds to me like there's little point in concerning yourselves with 64-bit unless you have some very, very specific needs.