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So the settings are 60i; 30pf; & 24pf

60i seems like a smoother picture compared to the 30pf - what are the differences between the two e.g. quality etc. I know ones interlaced vs the progressive (but what is the 'f' stand for?)
 

pennylane

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Uhh, patience?

I'm not familiar with video cameras, and certainly not yours, but I'm guessing the "f" just means frames. ie, "progressive frames." The options seem to be: 60i = 60 frames per second, but interlaced; 30pf = 30 progressive frames per second; 24pf = 24 progressive frames per second.

24fps is what movies are shot at. 30fps or 60hz interlaced is what TV is often shown at. If you've noticed the difference between how movies look and TV shows/sports look, much of it is because the frames per second are different. 24fps has a more "film-like" smoothness. 30pf/60i will likely be better for capturing motion (ie, sports).
 
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Thanks, I have googled it, but also thought someone might of posted by now and thank you btw :)

So basically the biggest noticeable difference is the motion not the quality?
 

Need4Speed

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it's not that simple ... 30p and 24p result in choppier motion because there are less frames per second, put 30/24p also perform better in low light. Not to mention, 30/24p on the canon's are not 'true' 30/24p .. but rather derived from 60i and stored in a 60i container. You'll need to do some more reading on this if you want to get the full gist of it. Lot's of info available online ...
 

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60i is 60 fields of interlaced footage. which translates to 29.97 frames. 30p is 29.97 frames of progressive footage. to get 30p out of 60i all you need to do is deinterlace or set the field dominance to none.
working with 30 in a 60i wrapper isn't an issue since you are nearly there.

if you are seeing choppy video in 30p footage, you are either moving the camera to fast (panning or something) or filming in a way that isn't productive to the format. what shutter speed are you shooting at, what are you shooting, what is the environemnt around the shot (light and other factors)

if you are handholding, zooming and panning quick, you are gonna get some funky footage.

if you keep your pans smooth and slow, use the camera correctly, and plan your shots, 30p can look really good. if you really work at it, 24p can look incredible, as long as your willing to remove pulldown and work in a 24p environment.
 
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On this Canon I've pretty much left the thing on Programmed AE mode. I've never really had any experience testing other shutter speeds. I think it's been at 60 with the Auto Slow Shutter "On" meaning it'll drop to 30 i guess ??? I"ve been shooting inside with standard soft white light bulbs of about 60w to 100w I've only been just shooting footage of inside the house to learn some of the options. I think I like the color saturation set to "Neutral" Mic Attenuator "On" ACG (gain) Auto Frame Rate has been smooth at 60i